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DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
February 28 2012 19:25 GMT
#1681
If you can explain or demonstrate how I have no opinion and am not pushing anyone that would be great, but it's just bullshit concocted by Dirkzor


On February 29 2012 03:55 Tyrran wrote:
OKay, back from work.

I dont understand people trying to devert the RoL pressure on me. There is no reason lynching me over RoL. I've been apparently useless, and RoL was diverting town from scum hunting. So i'm a better lynch? ONly if you are scum ( hi prplhz and VE).

@DocH : I understand your point about RoL, but you seems to think that he is scum. Why shouldnt we keep a scum alive and risk lynching a townie ? ( although I could go with a VE/Toad/prplhz lynch too, but i'm more confident on RoL for now).

@Kurumi : You say there is no new evidence. He was the second focus of the lynch yesterday, but no one that seems scummy voted for him. The player who pushed the most for his lynch was murdered by scum, and flipped blue. While scum could be playing with us, it seem clear to me that they saw a danger in Syllo, who was pushing for RoL.

I understand there are still more active player that are scum, but i dont really see why we should keep RoL alive.


Who do you lynch after RoL? I believe if you wanna lynch scummy lurkers that they have lower priority than active lurkers. Right now Toadesstern, Dirkzor, VE, and prplhz are all better than RoL for a lynch.

I don't understand this pushing thing tbh. Lots of people have not "pushed" their cases much such as BC who will make an analysis and some comments then pretty much abstain from posting for the rest of the day. That doesn't really seem scummy to me. I don't see why a townie would have to scream for a lynch after he makes his case especially if it is apparent a lot of people agree with him? I never had to push BC or RoL or RedFF or BH. Why would I "Push" a lynch that is winning, it makes no sense.

As far as Tyrran, he town read BH and kept voting for RoL, he isn't even remotely wishy washy. A townie having a few doubts about the lynch or mechanics in a closed setup? WOW it's fucking nothing. What do you mean he didn't push? When Day 2 started RoL was winning and then Toad kept going onto RoL, what do you have to do for the scumteam not to say "Look he didn't push!"
RIP Aaliyah
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
February 28 2012 19:26 GMT
#1682
Things prplhz has done since joining the game:

Say random shit.

@Kita it had nothing to do with the mason. I actually thought about what I was originally going to do and then decided not to do it because in the long term it'd probably be bad
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
February 28 2012 19:27 GMT
#1683
Dirkzor: DrH has called like 7 people scum and never made any cases and never pushed any lynch!!!!

then

Dirkzor: Yeah you made a lot of cases yeah you're pushing toad but you're not pushing any lynch

then

Dirkzor: I never said you didn't make cases I said you didn't make any cases in the last 8 hours when you were out eating dinner and watching tv that's scummy

then

Dirkzor: You don't have a town or scum agenda this makes you scum


seriously guys seriously
RIP Aaliyah
layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
February 28 2012 19:33 GMT
#1684
On February 29 2012 04:27 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Dirkzor: DrH has called like 7 people scum and never made any cases and never pushed any lynch!!!!

then

Dirkzor: Yeah you made a lot of cases yeah you're pushing toad but you're not pushing any lynch

then

Dirkzor: I never said you didn't make cases I said you didn't make any cases in the last 8 hours when you were out eating dinner and watching tv that's scummy

then

Dirkzor: You don't have a town or scum agenda this makes you scum


seriously guys seriously

You need to focus!
Stop thinking about dumb stuff.
Watch this instead
+ Show Spoiler +

Now that you mind has been soothed, think!
Who is scum?
Got it?
Good.
Now vote Viscera Eyes
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DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
February 28 2012 19:35 GMT
#1685
Toadesstern and Dirkzor are scummier than VE
RIP Aaliyah
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
February 28 2012 19:36 GMT
#1686
By the way, we should leave lurkers to Mr/Mrs Vigilante and such our lynch candidates should go around
kitaman27
wherebugsgo
BloodyC0bbler
DoctorHelvetica
Kurumi
Toadesstern
VisceraEyes
prplhz
bolded are those who should be fighting for their lives.
Yes, I think either WBG or prplhz lynch is the way to go. Why other names? It's obvious, but let me explain:
These people are NOT lurkers. That means, it makes the most sense to try to lynch these people. Of course, I'd hold people like kitaman27 or myself till the very end, because they seem Town(or are, in my case) These are the guys who are active, post their thoughts, precise or not. They are participating in the game. There's probably one scum somewhere in the lurker world, prolly something like risk/RoL/Tyrran/Dirkzor (maybe myself, given chaoser's history).


Final Votecount D1

redFF: 7

RebirthOfLeGenD
Kitaman27
Wherebugsgo
chaoser
BloodyC0bbler
layabout
Blazinghand

BloodyC0bbler: 5

DoctorHelvetica
syllogism
risk.nuke
VisceraEyes
prplhz

Toadesstern: 1

redFF

Blazinghand: 4

Dirkzor
Tyrran
Jackal58
Toadesstern

Dirkzor: 1

Jitsu


Unofficial Chaoser Votecount D2

Blazinghand 11:

Jitsu
Wherebugsgo
BloodyC0bbler
DoctorHelvetica
Dirkzor
prplhz
VisceraEyes
Toadesstern
Jackal58
risk.nuke
chaoser

RebirthOfLeGenD 3:

Tyrran
syllogism
Kitaman27

VisceraEyes 1:

layabout

DoctorHelvetica 1:

RebirthOfLeGenD

risk.nuke 1:

Blazinghand

If I were to post my thoughts in one complete votecount...
+ Show Spoiler +

Kurumicount

redFF: 7

RebirthOfLeGenD - Unless he was today's lynch and his body was missing. Then he's red.
Kitaman27
Wherebugsgo
chaoser
BloodyC0bbler
layabout
Blazinghand

BloodyC0bbler: 5

DoctorHelvetica
syllogism
risk.nuke It's him or RoL.
VisceraEyes
prplhz

Toadesstern: 1

redFF

Blazinghand: 4

Dirkzor ?
Tyrran ?
Jackal58
Toadesstern

Dirkzor: 1

Jitsu


You gotta sk8 Town blues, Vigi, Vet and Recruiter Mason.
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 28 2012 19:36 GMT
#1687
Like right now.

You just mentioned 4 names you wanted to lynch, yet you are not actively encouraging people into voting for any of them specifically. It doesn't seem like you really care about who gets lynched. If you are town and half as smart as you seem to want to look in this thread you should know that lists where no names stick out will just make it easy for scum to deflect lynches onto somebody else on that list. It's like you only think when you need to shoot somebody else down or fit your own secret agenda.

What does it matter that Tyrran had a town read on Blazinghand? Isn't that just weird since EVERYBODY else in this game had a scum read on him? Did he know something we didn't? These seem like things you should really be saying (not me because I don't think like that but so far in the thread you've been annoying like that). He kept voting for RebirthOfLeGenD and he seemed very confident that he was scum, but he just posted a small paragraph and a vote while seeming pretty alright with how Blazinghand ended up getting lynched.

How would you like it if I just wrote a small paragraph voting Toadesstern or whoever and then left the thread while somehow your derps ended up voting Dirkzor? You'd be all over me.

I don't like BloodyC0bbler right now but I don't think he's best lynch. He has contributed original thoughts on a bunch of people and he just doesn't strike me as scum. Yea, he doesn't strike me as scum. Does he strike you as scum? Or are you only mentioning him in an attempt to shoot me down while you don't actually have anything else to contribute?
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
February 28 2012 19:38 GMT
#1688
On February 29 2012 04:22 prplhz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 29 2012 04:19 Kurumi wrote:
This game is dominated by scum deciding which lynch and when. Sad.

What the fuck is this?

Things Kurumi has done since he joined this game:

Say random shit.

Well, we're really close to lynch time and we have no one set, how would You call it?
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
February 28 2012 19:38 GMT
#1689
They are also substantially more likely to be retarded and town. actually believe what they are saying if they happen to be town aligned.

What do you think about the tone of each of those players posts? (VE Toad DIrk)
Be the Best You Can Be ! Play MAFIA II http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/ II Dragonsound Best Band
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
February 28 2012 19:39 GMT
#1690
Yes I care about who gets lynched you fucking idiot I want it to be Toadesstern or Dirkzor that's such an empty worthless criticism
RIP Aaliyah
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
February 28 2012 19:39 GMT
#1691
OH FUCK
Damn me
I am so stupid ><
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wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
February 28 2012 19:43 GMT
#1692
prpl it's funny that you say Tyrran "knew" bH was town but you completely fuckin ignore the fact that Toad "knew" he was town.

That screams that you have an agenda that is not pro-town.

Dr. H, let's kill one of Toad or prpl. No one's voting Toad unfortunately as of yet, but people are voting prpl. Since RoL ragequit and is about to get modkilled I see no reason to lynch him.

##vote prplhz
layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
February 28 2012 19:43 GMT
#1693
If a player believes that they are acting in town's best interest, then is their behaviour scummy or townie?

It does not matter whether what they are actually doing is, in general scummy or townie. Instead it is their intention when posting that alludes to their alignment.
Be the Best You Can Be ! Play MAFIA II http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/ II Dragonsound Best Band
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 28 2012 19:43 GMT
#1694
On February 29 2012 04:39 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Yes I care about who gets lynched you fucking idiot I want it to be Toadesstern or Dirkzor that's such an empty worthless criticism

you still don't have anything about my case other than "the guy behaves like half the town is voting him" and yeah I wanted to clear out that "scumslip" misinterpretation as soon as possible because that's stuff that can produce mislynches.

Other than that you've got nothing on me. Even if it were the case I don't post like that as mafia according to VE.

Somthing else that makes you want to lynch me?
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
February 28 2012 19:43 GMT
#1695
I find it funny that the first time prplhz has made sense or written very clear posts it has been to attack me, scumteam assembled much?

Could my agenda be any more clear? You're echoing Dirkzor without acknowledging him in thread too. My agenda is to lynch scum. I cased BC on Day 1 and lots of people voted for him. I didn't need to push it because my analysis did the work for me. BC responded and I voted instead for RedFF who was tied as a high scumread with BC. Come Day 2, BC did some alright posting and I laid down a case on my top scum targets. RoL gets instavotes, I don't need to push it because it's the number one bandwagon at the time. I'm not super active when things change around to BH who I only didn't vote for on Day 1 because I second guessed myself too much.

Day 3 I case Toadesstern and I'm pushing him. I've been saying he should be lynched. I've been saying he's scummier than VE or anyone when people as me. What do I have to say, exactly, to qualify as "pushing" something? Even if I did that you would find some roundabout retarded way to pretend I haven't done anything in this game.

Keep coming after me and making yourself more obvious though.
RIP Aaliyah
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 28 2012 19:44 GMT
#1696
anyway we need to get some people on one guy unlike wbg said. I don't want mafia to manipulate this thing I'm fine with lynching prpl / wbg / RoL right now.

I disagree with Kurumi when he said we should lynch lurkers to our vigs because that clearly hasn't worked the last 2 days...
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
February 28 2012 19:46 GMT
#1697
On February 29 2012 04:43 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 29 2012 04:39 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Yes I care about who gets lynched you fucking idiot I want it to be Toadesstern or Dirkzor that's such an empty worthless criticism

you still don't have anything about my case other than "the guy behaves like half the town is voting him" and yeah I wanted to clear out that "scumslip" misinterpretation as soon as possible because that's stuff that can produce mislynches.

Other than that you've got nothing on me. Even if it were the case I don't post like that as mafia according to VE.

Somthing else that makes you want to lynch me?


Yeah your inexplicable defense of VE, calling WBG scum based on moronic WIFOM logic, wavering confidence (coming in and saying yeah guys my reads are bad etc., then gaining confidence suddenly, losing it again when you are pressured), implicitly guilty post behavior

your post about BH is still scummy and while you explained why you would post it as town i don't believe you and still perceive it to be scummy, is that difficult to understand?

if dirkzor and prplhz keep making a joke out of themselves you might not die today
RIP Aaliyah
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
February 28 2012 19:46 GMT
#1698
On February 29 2012 04:44 Toadesstern wrote:
anyway we need to get some people on one guy unlike wbg said. I don't want mafia to manipulate this thing I'm fine with lynching prpl / wbg / RoL right now.

I disagree with Kurumi when he said we should lynch lurkers to our vigs because that clearly hasn't worked the last 2 days...

Jackal is dead.
Vigilante is doing his/her job.
Unless You know more than us, of course.
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wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
February 28 2012 19:46 GMT
#1699
Unlike? I just said we need to lynch one person.

Yes I said we need to keep votes between 3 players earlier but then people went full retard and started voting everyone.

In order to play this game I feel like I need to take my head and bang it into a wall several times so I'm dumb enough to understand this type of play
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
February 28 2012 19:47 GMT
#1700
On February 29 2012 04:46 wherebugsgo wrote:
Unlike? I just said we need to lynch one person.

Yes I said we need to keep votes between 3 players earlier but then people went full retard and started voting everyone.

In order to play this game I feel like I need to take my head and bang it into a wall several times so I'm dumb enough to understand this type of play

Don't try to act like a hero. We know the basics.
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