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Green_25
Profile Joined June 2013
Great Britain696 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-28 16:57:17
July 28 2013 16:45 GMT
#121
There's a female caster doing one of the online cups, I forget which one. Underated Starleague or something?

Edit, oh yeah, ZombieGrub. She's pretty damn decent, better than a lot of male casters
AeroGear
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada652 Posts
July 28 2013 16:48 GMT
#122
The longer you keep this "women should be entitled to 50% representation in everything" the longer the bias regarding their talent and credibility will remain.

All I want is good casters, regardless of gender. The casters with a real passion for the game will navigate beyond the flames and difficulties and make a name for themselves.
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DavoS
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States4605 Posts
July 28 2013 17:01 GMT
#123
I think female gamers tend to be less hardcore than guys too. My sister and Mom both qualify as "gamers", but they mostly play iPhone games and Mario Party and stuff like that. Games like Starcraft, which are much more competitive, fast paced, and with a lot of room for error tend to only attract dedicated gamers, and the fellas are definitely in larger number in that group
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Fearest
Profile Joined September 2011
854 Posts
July 28 2013 17:19 GMT
#124
Aren't there 2 australian female casters awhile ago? They did some event in Signapore.
Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
July 28 2013 17:23 GMT
#125
On July 29 2013 01:48 AeroGear wrote:
The longer you keep this "women should be entitled to 50% representation in everything" the longer the bias regarding their talent and credibility will remain.

All I want is good casters, regardless of gender. The casters with a real passion for the game will navigate beyond the flames and difficulties and make a name for themselves.


The issue isn't that we don't have 50/50, it's that women may not be able to access caster positions.

"Beyond the flames and difficulties" : These are waaay bigger for women than for men. The aim is that this difference go.
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slytown
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Korea (South)1411 Posts
July 28 2013 17:24 GMT
#126
Ana from team legion/fxo should be mentioned. Great caster.
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Kettchup
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1911 Posts
July 28 2013 17:24 GMT
#127
It's unfortunate that Kelly started things off. You can have all the game knowledge in the world, but it doesn't work if people can't understand what the caster is saying.

Hopefully someone else gets a try eventually.
FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-28 17:27:32
July 28 2013 17:26 GMT
#128
On July 29 2013 02:23 Ragnarork wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2013 01:48 AeroGear wrote:
The longer you keep this "women should be entitled to 50% representation in everything" the longer the bias regarding their talent and credibility will remain.

All I want is good casters, regardless of gender. The casters with a real passion for the game will navigate beyond the flames and difficulties and make a name for themselves.


The issue isn't that we don't have 50/50, it's that women may not be able to access caster positions.

"Beyond the flames and difficulties" : These are waaay bigger for women than for men. The aim is that this difference go.

Women also find it considerably easier to get positions in eSports thanks to their gender, including even becoming "professionals" despite being relatively bad. Let's not pretend this is a one way street.

And, from the Dota community, Sheever gets no more shit than someone like Lumi. I don't really see anything that shows women in the public eye of eSports get more flames than men.
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Ureth_RA
Profile Joined July 2011
United States78 Posts
July 28 2013 17:27 GMT
#129
Can we stop saying female casters when VagCaster is equally appropriate?

User was temp banned for this post.
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Steelo_Rivers
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States1968 Posts
July 28 2013 17:29 GMT
#130
In the fighting game and league of legends scene. Not sure of too many females that would be hype enough to cast sc2.
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namste
Profile Joined October 2010
Finland2292 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-28 17:33:40
July 28 2013 17:33 GMT
#131
I think there isn't anyone actively trying stop women from casting, afaik.
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Skytt
Profile Joined June 2011
Scotland333 Posts
July 28 2013 17:34 GMT
#132
On July 29 2013 02:29 SiNKami wrote:
In the fighting game and league of legends scene. Not sure of too many females that would be hype enough to cast sc2.



The FGC is 10x more hype than SC2 casting and they had Jessica Nigri casting for them
a9arnn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States1537 Posts
July 28 2013 17:34 GMT
#133
Zombiegrub is in the DC area, that's where one of the female casters is!
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Nymzee
Profile Joined June 2013
3929 Posts
July 28 2013 17:35 GMT
#134
I think Sheever is a pretty good caster, she normally casts alone though which is far harder than casting with someone.
Rhaegal
Profile Blog Joined July 2013
United States678 Posts
July 28 2013 17:36 GMT
#135
Most casters are bad. The fact that there are so few females in the scene makes it a lot harder to find a good female caster.

Personally, I think Zombiegrub is pretty good. She doesn't have a voice that will attract a bunch of casuals like Totalbiscuit does, but she knows a lot about the game and all of the players, which sadly is something most casters lack.
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havok55
Profile Joined May 2013
United States276 Posts
July 28 2013 17:46 GMT
#136
Name one GOOD female caster that was chased out of the scene because of their gender. I'll wait.
dinosrwar
Profile Joined September 2011
1290 Posts
July 28 2013 18:04 GMT
#137
On July 29 2013 00:14 nimbim wrote:
I think any woman who follows ESPORTS will have noticed how kellyMILKIES was attacked in this community, back when she casted GSL. Yes, she wasn't a GSL level caster, but the shitstorm she received was insane, much worse than Moletrap, who wasn't liked by any more people than her, but he didn't pose for the playboy (or some similar magazine).

Having Seltzer as a hostess is already incredible, she must have one of the thickest skins in all of ESPORTS. I doubt another woman will want to be a caster in this community.


Yeah, at first I didn't pay attention to the Kelly hate because I genuinely thought she was an awful caster and ruined my enjoyment of the GSL, and if the anger caused her to quit and give us better casters, well that was justified. But there just hasn't been any level of vitriol toward the bad male casters, some of whom, like Moletrap/SNM, are even worse than kelly was. And what anger there is toward the guys, is to do with casting ability, not blanket sexist statements and personal attacks like how it was with Kelly.

I do think GomTV should try to get another woman casting in English. I wish Seltzer would cast; she's very funny, and imagining her with the Wolfdor team would be a really entertaining cast. Whenever I listen to the Korean trio cast in the past, they would just sound so much more lively.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
July 28 2013 18:04 GMT
#138
On July 29 2013 02:46 havok55 wrote:
Name one GOOD female caster that was chased out of the scene because of their gender. I'll wait.

I feel like we are being baited in some way here, but I can't be put my finger on it.
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ymir233
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States8275 Posts
July 28 2013 18:14 GMT
#139
There aren't enough casters overall that do a good job of actually telling people more than what's braindead obvious and on the screen...that factor plus the male:female ratio in eSports leads to this situation.

Besides, a female caster telling me that "a timing attack could happen sometime between 10-20 minutes!" isn't any more depressing than Apollo/Kaelaris telling me the same.
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DeathProfessor
Profile Joined March 2012
United States1052 Posts
July 28 2013 18:43 GMT
#140
I would love Blizzard taking a chance on a female caster for WCS, they have a capability to be more personable than males, they could make casting more warm and friendly.

My dream is that SOE cast! Please do it SOE!
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