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XeliN
United Kingdom1755 Posts
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DarthThienAn
United States2734 Posts
On August 10 2010 10:03 XeliN wrote: editing posts is against the rules >.< mod makes his own rools. | ||
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XeliN
United Kingdom1755 Posts
On August 09 2010 23:03 XeliN wrote: Watcher, I am asking for a slight leap of faith, please get in contact with me as I've formed a town circle, at this point let me be frank if I am mafia the information I know puts the town in a very very difficult position, but thankfully people who have shared with me are already certain of my innocence. PM me please, the information of who visited me last night is fairly essential and in all likelihood could enable us to catch the framer on this day. I can guarantee that I can prove my innocence as well as the people who have currently claimed to me, but in order to do so I'd obviously need to verify you. Simplest way would be giving me the names of the people who visited me, I will know if you are lying, but that is risky at it potentially gives me alot of information that, if i were mafia, could fuck us. There is another way to do this, a simpler way that is less risky that I will explain in PM. If you PM me and subsequently I have not lived up to what I claim (that I can prove my innocence as well prove the roles of people I'm in contact with) then you will have caught a mafia (me) at the expense of revealing your role. This in itself is pro town, but anyway I am requesting you take a slight leap of faith, the info on who visited me last night is invaluable, I would ask the same of detectives but their roles are more essential and they would be risking more. At this point it's looking like there is no watcher in the game, or he has already contacted me and I'm writing this to disillusion the mafia. | ||
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SouthRawrea
Canada608 Posts
INFINITE BUS DRIVING LOOP Also who edited and where? | ||
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DarthThienAn
United States2734 Posts
On August 10 2010 10:08 SouthRawrea wrote: INFINITE BUS DRIVING LOOP Also who edited and where? flamewheel. would two buses on the same people cancel out? | ||
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DarthThienAn
United States2734 Posts
On August 10 2010 10:08 XeliN wrote: Re quoting one last time At this point it's looking like there is no watcher in the game, or he has already contacted me and I'm writing this to disillusion the mafia. Requoting one last time: On August 09 2010 12:26 DarthThienAn wrote: I have an idea. My suggestion is that we coordinate better if we know what units we have on the field. The mafia will be forced to lie, and if we coordinate early enough there is no way we can lose all of our good pieces. Every game where I've seen people nameclaim or roleclaim I've seen the town win as far as I can remember. Do you guys want to win? I am very competitive. I know I like to. I will risk my life for you guys. Feel free to claim to me. If everyone would just trust me this one time, we could have an epic game. Basically, I'm waiting to hear about more of what went down Night 1. >>. | ||
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Hesmyrr
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Bill Murray
United States9292 Posts
you are much more likely mafia or ninja than i am noone should trust someone who posts once a day anyways | ||
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Divinek
Canada4045 Posts
On August 10 2010 10:25 Hesmyrr wrote: Looks like simply clusterfuck of nothing going on. Lynch BM then "the scribe", and thereafter let's see what happens. I am confident at least one mafia to be in BM / "the scribe" / Chenizu - as all others likely believe - and after these lynches, player # should be lower enough to actually encourage me into scumhunting. did you just publicly admit you were going to be useless until a few more potential mis lynches | ||
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SouthRawrea
Canada608 Posts
On August 10 2010 10:46 Bill Murray wrote: shut up hesmyrr you are much more likely mafia or ninja than i am noone should trust someone who posts once a day anyways Hey, calm your rage and one post a day is better than 20 spam posts a day okay MISTER? :D | ||
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Hesmyrr
Canada5776 Posts
On August 10 2010 10:48 Divinek wrote: did you just publicly admit you were going to be useless until a few more potential mis lynches Oops that was poor choice of words. I meant though I will pay equal amount of effort, I do not expect much to happen with so much confusion going on with this much people. And also lol BM. | ||
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Bill Murray
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Bill Murray
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SouthRawrea
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Bill Murray
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that is why i am voting for youngminii, and i hope he flips mafia. i like you, YM, and i hate to vote for you, but you might be mafia, and that is my objective in this game. no hard feelings, bro. I would also like to point out that I could be voting chezinu, who is likely a veteran fake-claiming tracker (sorry, i know it's sort of unethical to post my opinion about this, but i'm using this to validate my point), or artanis[xp] who have more votes on them than YM. YoungMinii is really just scummier than them in my eyes. Chezinu is possibly blue, and artanis is so lurky that i have a neutral read on him. I'll leave it to older players like Amber, ~OpZ~, or Foolishness to weed out the inactives | ||
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Foolishness
United States3044 Posts
First off, since people still seem to be confused about this I am a Veteran. Last night I took a hit and I did not have a medic on me. This does not confirm me 100% but I want to be clear about this because I have nothing to hide. Pyrry claims in his recap that I was "furiously defending BM right at the start of the game". As some of you may know during the first day I pushed Pyrry to post his list of suspects (it was clear he wanted to kill BM, but he said he had a list going). It was at this post that he first accused me of being mafia with BM and that I chainsawed BM. I would now like to refute all of these points. I have never "furiously defended BM". Up until the point where Pyrry accused me of chainsaw, my posts mainly consisted of one liners about Chezinu and smurfs and killing youngminii. My other posts (that had content) consisted of a suspicion of Pandain: On August 06 2010 13:07 Foolishness wrote: I think we should seriously take a look at this brodooski...he's yet to make any real contribution, despite an overflowing of posts. He got pretty defensive when divinek voted for him, which isn't fool proof I know, but it's definitely something to take note of. Bill Murray, I may not have any idea how you're playing these days, but I'd totally support you against this brodooski. And also includes me going AGAINST Bill Murray: On August 06 2010 12:18 Foolishness wrote: Bill Murray's attitude is awfully serious for his norm... On August 06 2010 12:37 Foolishness wrote: I once new a guy who swore by the fact that the third person to talk at the start of the first day was mafia. Yes...you just reminded me of him...did I mention he was never right about anything? Before Pyrry accused me in the thread I had nothing supporting Bill Murray. In fact, I was suspicious of him for acting outside his norm! I hadn't played a game with him in a bit so apparently I was wrong about what his norm was, but up to this point I had not furiously defended BM. After I had asked Pyrry to post his list he says: On August 07 2010 09:28 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: Well you will probably kill me tonight, so I will post all my info anyway, mafia number 2. You are my favorite player in all of TL Mafia, at least when you are town-aligned, so I am disappointed to see your red play be so obvious. You've now chainsaw defended Bill Murray against both Divinek and myself. Now, if Bill Murray flips blue, I will certainly not run roughshod after you and the rest of his sketchy defenders and defendees. But if he flips red, which seems EXTREMELY likely to me at this point, your ass is grass and killing me won't save you. Let me clarify that a chainsaw defense is when a person defends another by accusing the attacker. If you look through my posts I have never accused Pyrry of being mafia, I simply asked him for his list because if he was pro-town, he would post it. Let me also both out he says I chainsawed against Divinek. Divinek was voting for larjarse at the time, so that doesn't make any sense. I will also say that Divinek had only one vote at the time (from bumatlarge), and there was no longer much focus on Divinek compared to earlier in the day. My response to his post was: On August 07 2010 09:40 Foolishness wrote: Awww I'm touched <3 I would think it's obvious to any town player that lynching a player who's actively participating and defending against arguments is foolish. How many times have you seen a mafia player that isn't Ace/L actively tell people they are wrong/stupid and defend their beliefs to the last moment they die? Hardly ever. Imma wait at least another 2 days before ever considering voting for any of you. Truth is, I barely give a care as to whether BM or you or DTA or divinek is mafia. Cause all you active people do is blame each other and find reasons why the other is mafia. If one of you is actually mafia, I'm sure one of the others will figure it out sooner or later. I got bigger fish to fry in figuring out who's mafia among the other 50% of the players who half lurk. Now wait a minute...you're supposedly a ninja and getting killed by other ninja's tonight. If I was mafia why would I bother hitting you? Haha, I actually kinda lol'd when I read your post, because it's insanely obvious you improvised the entire thing. I've seen better reasoning for suspicions out of totally new players. Have you even read my posts to consider if I'm actually mafia? I'm pretty sure you're too concerned with BM right now to even care who else is mafia. Which is fine by me, you do what you got to do and I'll do what I got to do. One person is not a list. You got any others you want to throw out there? My intention with this post was to get him to clam down, because I was actively hunting mafia through the lurkers. I mention that I don't care whether him or BM or any other active is mafia, which was true. That would be my only defense of BM, which wasn't even a defense. I was not chainsawing here either, if that was true I would've accused Pyrry of being mafia, which I have yet to do all game long. Pyrry says I buddied up with BM. It's clear that I was suspicious of him, not trying to buddy up. Pyrry further said he didn't mean I chainsawed against Divinek, but against Pandain (he made a typo in his post). This further does not make sense since Pandain wasn't even against BM at the time (Pandain had voted for Chezinu). In conclusion I did not chainsaw defend BM, all my relevant posts are here as proof. I never accused Pyrry, only asked him to post his list. Pyrry in his analysis of me says I'm acting outside my normal behavior as town. I can easily refute this by showing my behavior from past games: When I am town or town-aligned, I am very active in hunting down mafia, especially behind the scenes. In Plexa's Summer Session Mafia, I was active in PMing everyone, and before I died I had convinced the town to kill 2 mafia, and I had figured out a few others. Pyrry was in this game as mafia and he knows. One of the things I do when I'm town in order to figure out who's mafia is pressuring people in the thread. I call them out in the thread to see how they respond and try to figure out alignment that way. This is apparent in every game I've been in from my first. In the first game I played in (hosted by Pyrry) I called out Shikyo in the thread and pushed him hard to prove himself. From this I was able to deduce he was innocent and we were able to form a town circle. I consistently do this because I want to see how people react when I call them out. In fact I did it this game when I asked Pyrry to post his mafia list. In Incognito's mafia XXVII I pushed flamewheel hard. If the game hadn't ended he was my top suspect to lynch because of his reaction. Compare this to my games when I'm mafia. While I try to be active, it's not uncommon for me to hide amongst the lurkers. Furthermore, I PM a lot less than normal. In Flamwheel's Mafia XX, where I was the GF, I believe the only person I talked to in PMs was Incognito (minus a short stint with L). In Incognito's double mafia family game, I barely posted as I sat back sniping blues/reds. I didn't post very much until the town was half dead and after Chezinu inspected me. My behavior this games only shows that I'm innocent and not mafia. I think I have talked with more than 50% of this town in PMs, and I know more than enough of you can vouch that I'm very active talking to everyone. I would like to further emphasize my post on page 41 at the start of night 1. I told everyone exactly what I was doing, and I think people can vouch that I haven't swayed from what I said. Summary: My posts clearly indicate I was never "furiously defending BM". There was never any chainsaw defense since I never accused Pyrry. I am acting in accordance with my normal town playstyle, definitely not my mafia play. The majority of my posts are quoted here as proof. This does not prove me 100% innocent, but shows that Pyrry's arguments against me are fallacious. | ||
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Foolishness
United States3044 Posts
This is about why youngminii is mafia. I first suspected him early on day 1 when I posted: On August 06 2010 13:25 Foolishness wrote: Why wait until tonight when we got a lynch today? My reasoning for wanting to kill him was because he had yet to make a real contribution. He was posting frequently like we would all expect except he had yet to make a real contribution. Here are his posts longer than 2 lines: On August 06 2010 13:12 youngminii wrote: DT can use a proxy townie like was done last game with Zeks and lakrismamma. Also, how did the mafia suck at blue sniping last game? They got every single blue long before the end of the game (and the end of the game was significantly shortened BECAUSE they sniped every blue). You were the one playing like a total scrub early game, linking pretty much all the blues together and accusing them as a group of scum (remember your PM parade telling everyone to lynch Subversion?). I hope people don't use PMs to the same effect this game, I'd say stay very wary of most PMs early game (case in point: Subversion revealing to Pandain that he was DT without having checked Pandain, Pandain was in fact a miller, but still could have been very dangerous). I never found out how Subversion's DT role got leaked, that was well and truly stupid as fuck. This was about last game, nothing relevant. On August 06 2010 13:44 youngminii wrote: Why are you being so hard on Chez? I mean he's not BAD, but when people try to imitate him it's bad (case in point: DTA last game). I don't see why you're trying to force him to change his play when it works for him. Yeah it's annoying but if it works, it works. What's the bet that if Chez does change his style, bum will accuse him of being scum because of his changed ways? On August 06 2010 14:15 youngminii wrote: I'm not saying "LET'S NOT LYNCH CHEZ BECAUSE OF HIS STYLE! HE'S IMMUNE" I'm saying it's okay for him to play that way and anything that happens down the road that gives town cause to lynch him is fine, but immediately going to lynch him because of the way he always plays is dumb as fuck. Why don't you include the scenario where he possibly snipes a red? Bias bias bias. Look I'm not saying Chez isn't red, I'm just saying your reasoning for lynching him isn't valid at all. Here he is kinda defending Chez (but he says he isn't) and is refuting bumatlarge's post. Nothing relevant to the game at all, just telling bumatlarge what Chez's style is. It may seem like he's contributing but all he's saying is "this is how Chez plays, he may be mafia, he may not be", he doesn't provide any insight one way or the other. On August 06 2010 15:05 youngminii wrote: Maybe we are posting a bit too much (I don't think it's as much as last game lol).. Isn't the whole point of all this to generate discussion though? I mean, what else are we going to do, sit around and twiddle our thumbs? I found this post to be odd because it doesn't make sense. Here we have a spammer saying "let's not post" even though we all know posting generates discussion which is better for the town. He asks a lot of questions, just as a hesitant mafia would. On August 06 2010 18:43 youngminii wrote: Okay apparently BM can't see what's wrong with his plan. I shall outline them for you. If you are scum, we lose instantly. If you are town, 6 people will lie and you won't know who lied and who didn't and you can't publicly reveal them without exposing their identity. What are you going to do when all 6 scum claims town? Hmm? Oh right, nothing. Do you really, really, really think every single person will claim to you? Do you know how hard organisation is, especially on a forum? What are you going to do when the framer frames people? Uh oh. Can't be fucked listing anymore. May seem like a contribution, but he only repeated what had already been said by Pyrry, DTA, and others. Plus he just gives quick reasoning, instead of going into detail on possible scenarios as everyone else had done. This is typical of mafia behavior, they repeat what's already been said to make it look like they care and that they are contributing. And they do this without adding in thoughts of their own. On August 07 2010 20:16 youngminii wrote: I don't like the plan. What BM, are you gonna label me as red? So if anyone doesn't agree with your play, you label them as red. That's fucking ridiculous. Do you really want to see how a Day 1 plan turns out? It doesn't turn out well. Just because you think you've come up with some god awesome plan that'll save everyone doesn't mean it will. And you don't go FoSing everyone that doesn't want to use it. Let me tell you now, I'm good at finding out whether people are scum or not, remember Godfather mafia? Yeah I destroyed that game. Now hopefully I'll be able to weed out scum again but you going on about this god damn plan for 20 fucking pages doesn't help when the only fucking posts I can see are by you. Here I would like to transition into his previous games. We know from Godfather mafia that he helped the town win enormously. He has promised here that he's going to be able to weed out scum but he has not done any of it yet. In fact he hasn't done any analysis so far. Compare to a post from godfather mafia: On July 10 2010 18:09 youngminii wrote: You spelled my name wrong  While I'm not ruling out BC as a townie, I'm not convinced he's scum and I think there are other people that we should concentrate on, namely BM's four. The best play on scum's end would be to get rid of the DT (ie. me). Scum knows that I'm DT but they also know they can't touch me because of the jailing. The only way they can get rid of me for now is to sacrifice their KP for two nights. Hence my suspicions lead me to YI. He's the one who suggested/pushed forward the idea to roleblock me. As scum, he knows I am a DT and the best way to neutralize my ability is to roleblock me, knowing that he can't touch me otherwise. Sacrificing KP is a major blow to scum so instead of that, blocking me is the best option. Now I would have liked to see what his reaction would have been after finding out I was roleblocked (maybe I should've faked it) but since that's too late, there's no other place for me to lay my accusations. So if we end up lynching someone other than YI (like BB) then my check will go to YI tonight. Here we see analysis youngminii style. Actively laying out scenario and figuring out who's most suspicious. We see this again: [SPOILER]On July 24 2010 09:48 youngminii wrote: My case on Chaoser. + Show Spoiler + Let us delve into the mind of scum. The pattern for a normal, general scum that doesn't go out of his way to do anything out of the ordinary is quite simple. Lay low on the first day or two and slowly come out with accusations. Be very careful of jumping on bandwagons as it may arouse suspicion. Rather than openly coming out and making a case on someone on the first day/two, try to find someone that is making a fool of themselves and make a small case to see if it gains momentum. I think we can all agree that this is a standard way of playing as scum, keeps the suspicion low while still contributing information. Now let us look at chaoser's early game. One of his first posts is to abstain. This vote does not change for the entire day. Fits perfectly in line with my 'lay low' theory, especially (as the wonderful Pandain pointed out) as chaoser was so against my 'no lynch' strategy. One would have to wonder why he didn't simply vote for someone if he was so against it. He raises the counter argument that voting to abstain is different from voting to no lynch, which is a moot point in my opinion really. I think it's less about the days and more about the fact that we get tons of information from looking at vote lists Cool, chaoser wants information from voting lists on the first day. In fact, he even points this out to the public. So why does he not vote for anyone? Oh right, abstaining doesn't label you as 'against' someone. Good stuff in my opinion, I'd probably do it too if I was scum. So up until early Day 2, chaoser continues to bring in a wealth of information (such as the voting history of certain people etc.) but doesn't actually accuse anyone. All he does is make some accusatory comment that doesn't really have any flair to it. See below. chaoser to BB: So basically you just said: "lawl, i messed up/made a mistake but oh well, not going to change." Anyone else find that suspicious? So early on in Day 2, after a small group of people (Divinek, DTA and Amber[light]) already vote for BB, chaoser joins in and mounts a small case against BB. + Show Spoiler + And to be truthful, I don;t really believe that BrownBear is townie just from the way he's posting. For the first day he pretty much posts nothing and bandwagons with no real reason. When people point him out of it (that he voted before reading) he goes oh well, it doesn't matter now when it CLEARLY did, the vote ended 6-5. Then, after a whole DAY of people pointing fingers at him he decides to come in and post about vets claiming and basically giving horrible advice. I'm inclined to say he's mafia who fucked up the first day and now he's trying to play dumb townie. Also, his whole ramble about claiming is pushing us off the topic of Subversion's suspicious vote as well as his little statement about how mafia isn't really making mistakes. I'm not 100% clear on my vote yet but I'm watching BrownBear for now. And I also think we should vote double lynch. It's going to be 52 hours till the next lynch give or take, you guys don't think we'll have more than enough information then? After a page or two a LOT of people jump on the bandwagon. It's uncanny. Chaoser realises that if BB is lynched and he flips town then things will look bad for him, so he switches his vote to Subversion, another bandwagon being formed at the time. It's funny, after using that argument against BB he immediately switches to Subversion after seeing the possibility that he might be labeled as mafia (note: someone actually said that the '3rd/4th person on the bandwagon tends to be mafia' and could have affected chaoser's thoughts). The argument he uses against Subversion is one that has already gained traction from BC/Protractinium and so it's easy to ride with. Pandain then mounts an argument against chaoser, who responds by responding to each and every point. I believe they continue this argument via PM and sort it out there and Pandain drops his case on chaoser (I attribute this to Pandain being new to this game and not being very good at picking out lies/deceit etc.). Anyway, what does chaoser do now? Of course, he abstains. Oh, the joy of not really voting for anyone. A common trait of mafia is that they won't contribute too much in the accusations etc. early on. They will however, try and 'appear' to be useful by posting stuff that doesn't really cause them any risk in any way (ie. pointing at someone of being scum). They will often side with someone else or pick on a player that seems to be causing a ruckus which won't be seen as suspicious. In addition to this, scum will go to great lengths to defend themselves. Think about it (directed at newer players), if you are scum you are much more willing to come back to this thread and try to shake off any accusations against you. This is why RVS is quite helpful in smaller games. Often scum will 'lurk' meaning they'll browse around, read everything but won't post too much in order to stay under the radar. However, accusing them and voting for them will force them to come out and defend themselves profusely. We can see this in DTA, he was town and everyone started voting for him. He didn't reply in the thread for a looooooong time (I actually pointed this out but I was ignored /yay), indicating that he was in fact, not lurking but actually AWOL, which is a townie trait. Chaoser falls into the above mafia category. He immediately comes out of his 'useful/informative' shell and starts defending himself a LOT. His posts start becoming a lot of the 'discussion' going on. This continues for a long time, only defending himself and never accusing anyone asides from the occasional "your arguments are weak, why are you trying to get me lynched so bad? Are you scum?" type of argument. Now it's actually really painful to go through skimming page by page but the general trend I see right now is that a lot of people start jumping on the chaoser bandwagon. It's funny, he votes for DTA because he's getting a lot of votes for him. He then states: From reading this, I'll change my vote to Subversion even though that means I'll 100% die. Darth, if you wanna help me, you could switch it over too and I think he'll be first. ##unvote ##vote Subversion Look at this from a scum perspective. He knows DTA is town. He knows that if DTA is lynched then he'll get an even worse image than before. So what does he do? He tries to side with DTA to lynch someone else that already has a lot of people voting for him. This is actually a good play by mafia as he had already taken the side of voting for Subversion earlier so if questioned, he could retaliate by saying "I already had my suspicions on Subversion before!" + Show Spoiler + On an unrelated side note, I find it funny how people are so quick to link me to Subversion (tree.hugger especially) because I defended him a bit whilst nobody links me to DTA's town and Hyperbola's town when I actually gave them proper defenses. Quite ridiculous imo. Blah blah DTA ends up getting lynched (one of the final votes by chaoser, although it could be argued that he did it to save himself) and ends up flipping town. I know I've always been wary of chaoser but I'd like everyone to read my analysis of him. I'm not going to analyse Night 3 'cause that was just a big spam fest and lots of people probably have an ill image of me now. I'd just like you all to trust me for once (I was right on hyperbola/DTA even though it doesn't mean anything, yes I know) and vote for chaoser. I would also like to mention that I believe infundlibsuvxkum and chaoser are linked but that discussion can be saved for another time. Outside of the obvious fact that he's posting long stuff in this game, we see him actually doing analysis. Yes there is flaming in there as we would expect, but we still see him doing analysis of other people. This is good analysis he does, and he's yet to do any of that this game. Youngminii's attitude this game is very different from his past games. While the spam amount may be relatively the same, in the past youngminii actively analyzed people. This game he hasn't made any contribution and has only repeated what's already been said. I accused youngminii in order to see how he would react. Read my previous post where I talk about pressuring people. His response to my accusations is not good for him. He starts by instantly accusing me and backing up Pyrry's fallacious arguments. He then proceeds to just spam away arguments against me. On August 09 2010 13:44 youngminii wrote: What the fuck are you talking about lmfao. I haven't even been on in a day or so and you automatically assume I'm scum because you got hit. You know what I think? I think you faked the hit. I don't even know why you want me lynched, maybe you're scum and you think I'm not worth a night hit so you go for a lynch. On August 09 2010 13:54 youngminii wrote: Oh okay EXCUSE ME for trying to spam less, I'll be sure to go back to my last game style and spam the crap out of this thread. I've been busy with uni, thank you very much. And what have you contributed besides accusing me? Fake claiming doesn't count. On August 09 2010 14:08 youngminii wrote: Why are we voting Divinek? If we're gonna vote for someone completely random with no plan and no hard evidence I suggest foolishness. If he really is Vet, well he's lost his usefulness since he already soaked up a hit but I think he's scum trying to look active and pointing fingers everywhere. Obviously I have no evidence so if people want to vote someone else, be my guest but there's as much chance that foolishness is scum as Divinek/BM being scum. Better get rid of foolishness now if he really is fake claiming then trust him later (assuming he is scum). Part of this I totally expected. It's youngminii, if I accuse him, he's going to call me stupid and spam. However notice that he really never denies my accusation, he never claims to be innocent or deny being mafia. Instead he just spams "lynch foolishness, lynch foolishness". There's also no hard analysis against me. We saw in the previous games that he's very capable of doing analysis on players, yet all he has to say about me is that I'm useless and that I've faked claim for sure. No analysis at all, he just says I'm faking my claim. The important thing is that he still hasn't contributed. He immediately calls me a liar and says we need to lynch me. No behavior analysis (which we know he is capable of). Not to mention after the town got distracted off of him, he vanished again. Yes, not conclusive, but still convenient that once he saw it was a legit threat he vanished into lurking. Finally, Divinek pointed out his slip up: This slip up is more than enough reason to vote for him. He says I need to be lynched, then says my posts aren't scummy, then votes for me. That's classic mafia reaction. Summary: youngminii has not contributed all this game. We've seen in his past games that he is very capable of doing analysis on players. He was a big help in the town in in Godfather mafia. His final slip up at the end shows his overreaction to my accusation and only builds upon the case that he is mafia. youngminii is mafia | ||
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Bill Murray
United States9292 Posts
On August 10 2010 11:08 Bill Murray wrote: i just voted for youngminii because i feel like we get a lot of information out of his lynch. foolishness pushed for him, so we can take that into consideration, and youngminii and chezinu had interaction early on in the game in terms of defending each other (or so I have seen someone say) that is why i am voting for youngminii, and i hope he flips mafia. i like you, YM, and i hate to vote for you, but you might be mafia, and that is my objective in this game. no hard feelings, bro. I would also like to point out that I could be voting chezinu, who is likely a veteran fake-claiming tracker (sorry, i know it's sort of unethical to post my opinion about this, but i'm using this to validate my point), or artanis[xp] who have more votes on them than YM. YoungMinii is really just scummier than them in my eyes. Chezinu is possibly blue, and artanis is so lurky that i have a neutral read on him. I'll leave it to older players like Amber, ~OpZ~, or Foolishness to weed out the inactives beat you to the punch, foolishness | ||
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Pyrrhuloxia
United States6700 Posts
If BM is lynched, we will get a lot of info. If Foolishness is lynched, we will get a lot of info. If Artanis is lynched, we will get a lot of info. If youngminii is lynched, we will get some iffy info on Chezinu. If Chezinu is lynched, we will get a lot of info but let's not kill likely tracker. I say we just stick to the plan and not let BM get saved again. | ||
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Bill Murray
United States9292 Posts
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