EPTI'm Dreaming of a Starbow GSL.
HOW COOL THAT'D BE ?
[Code A] Group K Season 1 2014 - Page 6
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Ragnarork
France9034 Posts
I'm Dreaming of a Starbow GSL. HOW COOL THAT'D BE ? | ||
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Talack
Canada2742 Posts
On January 24 2014 18:26 Waise wrote: if you play relatively safe and expect it, that opener shouldn't kill you. i think at this level of play every player is just doing everything they can to undercut and still hold. that's sort of the nuance of elite play - in theory you should be able to defend something like that, but to succeed you have to push your defense to the bare minimum because your opponent is elite as well. defending that opener with the bare minimum means the smallest slipup will probably kill you. but it's not like a really strong timing that just has no reliable defense. the reliable defense is crisp timings and strong queen micro It's not a strong timing or a strong harassment. Make queens, make a spore if you're uncertain and a spine if needed. Like this is not something new it's been around for 2-3 years and it was basically one of those strats that was useless in WOL but you didn't have anything better to open with. | ||
Shellshock
United States97274 Posts
On January 24 2014 18:24 Shellshock wrote: 6:00 Lair for Hydra lings see the low ground CC banshee and cloak research started for Dream 3rd base for Hydra 7:00  44 vs  42another gas for Hydra 12 more lings for Hydra queens pushing hellions back from the edge of creep spire for Hydra 2nd banshee for Dream 8:00 55 vs 572 more gas for Hydra 3rd CC for Dream first banshee arrives at the natural of Hydra and starts killing drones overseer started for Hydra hellions at the 3rd of Hydra kill the queen hellions try to get into the natural but are zoned away by lings banshee is killing queens hellions come into the natural 9:00 62 vs 70lings are able to clean up hellions and the banshee is chased away banshee moves to the 3rd to continue harassing killing another queen mutas started for Hydra armories for Dream another queen is killed (hydra down to 1) 10:00 65 vs 72mtuas are heading towards Dream's base 2 more factories for Dream widow mines started for Dream mutas and lings in the natural of Dream Dream has no anti air out yet hellions try to drive intot he natural of Hydra but get caught up by lings banshees help the hellions saving 2 viking for Dream turrets started for Dream 11:00 75 vs 43mutas in the main of Dream Dream mass reapiring his viking but it goes down thor for Dream hellbats for Dream missile turret started in the natural of Dream Dream down to 17 scvs Roach warren for Hydra mutas move back to the natural lings force a cancel on the turret 12:00 72 vs 40lings and mutas killing the 2 OCs in the natural banshee in the 3rd of Hydra with 20 kills Dream saves his CCs banshee is finally killed 13:00 80 vs 45Dream retakes his natural Dream loses one of his burning CCs to mutas another thor for Dream +1 range attack for Hydra Roach speed for Hydra overlord speed for Hydra banshee for Dream 14:00 93 vs 521-1 vehicle upgrades for Dream Hydra up 50 drones to 19 scvs spores for Hydra 4th base for Hydra Dream moving across the map with a viking hellbat thor army infestation pit for Hydra 15:00 115 vs 62roaches engage the army on creep ling runby in the natural of Dream mutas getting killed by thors and vikings lings come home to help fight the thors roaches mutas and queens kill off the rest of Dream's army 16:00 133 vs 44Dream ggs! Hydra ties it up 1-1! | ||
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Shellshock
United States97274 Posts
Poll: Recommend Hydra vs. Dream Game 2? ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (10) ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1) ★★★- Good game (1) ★★★★- Highly recommended game (0) ★- Do not see this game no matter what (0) 12 total votes Your vote: Recommend Hydra vs. Dream Game 2? (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season | ||
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r00ty
Germany1023 Posts
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VKCA
Canada391 Posts
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Heartland
Sweden24578 Posts
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Shinta)
United States1716 Posts
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Daswollvieh
5553 Posts
Jesus, Dream never disappoints to disappoint. | ||
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NovemberstOrm
Canada16217 Posts
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Dark.Carnival
United States5095 Posts
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Daswollvieh
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Shellshock
United States97274 Posts
0:00 Hydra spawns in the bottom left Dream spawns in the top right | ||
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NovemberstOrm
Canada16217 Posts
On January 24 2014 18:28 Shinta) wrote: lol, this is worse than NA Challenger... Maybe even way worse, since at least the NA Challenger players are more interesting. you went too far  | ||
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aZealot
New Zealand5447 Posts
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Mevious
Canada150 Posts
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Talack
Canada2742 Posts
On January 24 2014 18:28 Daswollvieh wrote: Someone get Dream on the Judo team, since he seems to know all the throws. Jesus, Dream never disappoints to disappoint. Noice | ||
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Big J
Austria16289 Posts
On January 24 2014 18:27 Talack wrote: It's not a strong timing or a strong harassment. Make queens, make a spore if you're uncertain and a spine if needed. Like this is not something new it's been around for 2-3 years and it was basically one of those strats that was useless in WOL but you didn't have anything better to open with. Lol yeah. "It didn't counter Broodlord/Infestor, hence --> strategy useless". | ||
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Heartland
Sweden24578 Posts
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Waise
3165 Posts
On January 24 2014 18:27 Talack wrote: It's not a strong timing or a strong harassment. Make queens, make a spore if you're uncertain and a spine if needed. Like this is not something new it's been around for 2-3 years and it was basically one of those strats that was useless in WOL but you didn't have anything better to open with. yes, like i said, most likely the reason GSL players would mess up is because they're trying to defend very very cheaply and want to max their economy by undercutting on static D or queens. you are right, obviously he messed up, but it's kind of silly to say "diamond level play" just because he fumbled hellion/banshee defense. i've seen top zergs do the same on stream, and certainly many many players in mid leagues struggle with it from time to time. you're the one who pointed out that it's an "old" strategy so naturally there's an element of metagame shift that makes zergs less willing or ready to prepare for it as well. diamond level players are in diamond it's at least certainly a "strong harassment" in that if terran micros correctly they shouldn't lose any units, and it forces zerg to focus a lot of attention on proper queen micro and defense when what he wants to be doing is sipping a red bull and rallying drones lol | ||
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