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jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
February 11 2013 02:00 GMT
#1041
Man that Palmar wagon looks scummy as hell
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
February 11 2013 02:03 GMT
#1042
On February 11 2013 11:00 jaybrundage wrote:
Man that Palmar wagon looks scummy as hell


Lol.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
BioSC
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States636 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-11 02:08:34
February 11 2013 02:04 GMT
#1043
Day 2!


Palmar, the Vanilla Townie, has been lynched!

This post will be retconned by GM at a later time.
Bio - Breaking it down
GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
February 11 2013 02:06 GMT
#1044
Also, non-voters are being forcibly replaced as soon as I find replacements. They can avoid is fate if they see this post and PM me before I find a replacement
Moderator
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
February 11 2013 02:12 GMT
#1045
WTF.. Oats didnt vote?

Guess Chinese New Year took its toll with oats/djo.

GG Palmar. Even though you activity was low, you still managed to be transparent enough to establish innocent. Pretty impressive actually given the post count.

jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
February 11 2013 02:14 GMT
#1046
Im not happy this was a shitty pick for a lynch
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
February 11 2013 02:21 GMT
#1047
On February 11 2013 11:14 jaybrundage wrote:
Im not happy this was a shitty pick for a lynch

U know what is shitty jay

you coming in 30min before lynch trying to pep-talk ppl to swap

and then have the stones to come here and say

"shitty pick"

What are you even trying to achieve here? If you wanted Palmar in so bad, perhaps should have done it 6 hrs earlier when most of the USA/Europe shift was online.

The consensus is the list was 3 townies; you are not getting any brownie points for sticking up for Palmar here from me.

*This is nothing to do with that you voted me, its to do with your intent. its pointless*

Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
February 11 2013 02:22 GMT
#1048
I'm convinced that at least one or both of Phagga / Snarfs is scum. Prphlz is kinda up there, but I want him to pressure me first so I can see if he's British-Yamato scummy or more town. Jay came off so scummy trying to derail that lynch and deem everyone on the wagon was scummy for voting Palmar. Made me giggle on the inside. Top 4 right thar, 2-3 scum in it.

Don't think Yamato / VE be a good lynch today. Yamato I don't see as that scummy, VE I see as more of as ez scum target because he's just not living up to his full potential. He's 'slippery' as SlOosh put it, but my top scumreads all want him dead which irks the fuck out of me.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
February 11 2013 02:23 GMT
#1049
Lol, Mocsta you get cred for that Jay bullshit. Got the post 1m in before me :p
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
February 11 2013 02:29 GMT
#1050
Cc.

Phagga made a heart felt defense to your jx accusations.

Palmar was even reconsidering his read.

I take it from your above post. Ur read was not swayed
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
February 11 2013 02:39 GMT
#1051
Not really. A lot of my case can easily be refuted with "no, I wasn't doing this."

What really stands out about Phagga was his JX vote... because not once did he attempt to talk with JX. Never did he interact with him meaningfully and try to probe his brain for information. Town want to be sure their vote is placed correctly. Phagga did not. It was a blatant sheep with no follow-up investigating or interacting.

He asked Jay like one question: Who is your top scumread? And then proceeded to dabble here and there, poop-flinging at someone or another like VE, who I see as an easy target.

##Vote: Snarfs


Because lurking and I think he's scum.

Also, How do you view Phagga right now? What about Jay overall considering the recent happenings?
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
February 11 2013 02:50 GMT
#1052
Although, I historically as a player hate when people defend themselves because I typically get all confirmation biased about it like "No, you're still scum wtf". Again, it's something I'm trying to tone down on my play. But I'm still convinced snarfs or phagga is scum. I want to hear from Prphlz and Jay moreso.

@Yamato


You're pretty null / leaning town (wtf, has this ever happened before with us?). This game is really different than our last few together. In each we were always shitflinging at each other, both when you were town and scum. I actually can't put my finger on it, you seem more level-headed than usual. I think if we talk some I can get a decent read on you from our history together. Some people here want to lynch you, thus I need to speak with you.

So, my question: What do you think of me this game? I want you to shine your Yamato beams of light down upon Mr. Cheesecake and reveal all that you believe of me. (Tunnel me brohan)
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
February 11 2013 02:52 GMT
#1053
im still keen to vote phagga; and I still dont like his response(s) to the scum slip catch. I still think it was genuine as per
(scum slip written on phone)

However, there is so much doubt in the thread with yamato currently, which is the main reason I am holding back voting phagga. I am waiting for his response to what has been highlighted as issues.


With Jay; thats a hard one. I cant guage if its just a guy pissed off; or a guy looking for town cred.
Im leaning towards guy pissed off due to:
On February 10 2013 12:36 jaybrundage wrote:
Palmar I will change my vote for you but if you change your mind and decide to play then I will do my best to change the direction of the lynch. The balls in your court.

##Unvote
##Vote Palmar

He wanted Palmar in from the start of the nomination; just wanted from him more effort.

I dont have a problem he voted me; I said from the start, if palmar and sl0osh could promise motivation/activity, then I would be happy to be voted off.

Jay thought palmar promised more; i dont think he did. Prob comes down to that.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
February 11 2013 02:53 GMT
#1054
sniped with yam.. guess we even now CC.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
February 11 2013 03:08 GMT
#1055
Well, I guess that means we're thinking somewhat aligned. I'm just gonna hit the bed. I have tomorrow off school (Blizzard weeeeeeeeeeee) so I'll be active in the morning.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
February 11 2013 03:26 GMT
#1056
On February 11 2013 11:52 Mocsta wrote:
im still keen to vote phagga; and I still dont like his response(s) to the scum slip catch. I still think it was genuine as per
(scum slip written on phone)

However, there is so much doubt in the thread with yamato currently, which is the main reason I am holding back voting phagga. I am waiting for his response to what has been highlighted as issues.


With Jay; thats a hard one. I cant guage if its just a guy pissed off; or a guy looking for town cred.
Im leaning towards guy pissed off due to:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2013 12:36 jaybrundage wrote:
Palmar I will change my vote for you but if you change your mind and decide to play then I will do my best to change the direction of the lynch. The balls in your court.

##Unvote
##Vote Palmar

He wanted Palmar in from the start of the nomination; just wanted from him more effort.

I dont have a problem he voted me; I said from the start, if palmar and sl0osh could promise motivation/activity, then I would be happy to be voted off.

Jay thought palmar promised more; i dont think he did. Prob comes down to that.


Rofl how is calling the shitty lynch shitty trying to get town cred. If anything I knew it was "scummy" to fling shit on the palmar lynch. But at that time i was to busy being pissed off to give a fuck. If we had had a consistent vote count I would of acted sooner. But I really didn't know where we stood on whos getting lynched.

Also I don't redact anything that I said. I think that at least 2-3 of the scum are on the Palmar Wagon. Think about it Palmar is a town monster. (The main reason I didn't want to lynch him) Scum will be afraid of him and they should. I have seen this guy legit call out the entire scum team day 1. Needless to say we (I was on the scum team) Shot his ass day 1.

Look over what palmar said and consider his reads. He is known for being an amazing town player for a reason. I also am still pissed off at you fuckers btw for lynching him. Ugh so aggravating.


The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
February 11 2013 03:36 GMT
#1057
On February 11 2013 09:33 prplhz wrote:
I am really sure that yamato77 is town. The reason for that is his early town analysis on me. Scum don't want players everybody else think is town because they can't get rid of them since they don't have any night kills. You might think that it's a bad analysis or whatever, but it absolutely isn't, it's the best analysis I've read in this game so far. I don't think scum would make a case like that.


To me, this post reads as him softclaiming town.
He is like, scum dont want to call people town. I am calling someone town, therefore I am not scum.
Also, he says that he wants to lynch Mr CC, and doesnt ask him any questions about anything. Prp has been reactive this whole game and not proactive. Reactive is a scumtell.

No gg, No skill.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
February 11 2013 03:41 GMT
#1058
On February 11 2013 12:26 jaybrundage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2013 11:52 Mocsta wrote:
im still keen to vote phagga; and I still dont like his response(s) to the scum slip catch. I still think it was genuine as per
(scum slip written on phone)

However, there is so much doubt in the thread with yamato currently, which is the main reason I am holding back voting phagga. I am waiting for his response to what has been highlighted as issues.


With Jay; thats a hard one. I cant guage if its just a guy pissed off; or a guy looking for town cred.
Im leaning towards guy pissed off due to:
On February 10 2013 12:36 jaybrundage wrote:
Palmar I will change my vote for you but if you change your mind and decide to play then I will do my best to change the direction of the lynch. The balls in your court.

##Unvote
##Vote Palmar

He wanted Palmar in from the start of the nomination; just wanted from him more effort.

I dont have a problem he voted me; I said from the start, if palmar and sl0osh could promise motivation/activity, then I would be happy to be voted off.

Jay thought palmar promised more; i dont think he did. Prob comes down to that.


Rofl how is calling the shitty lynch shitty trying to get town cred. If anything I knew it was "scummy" to fling shit on the palmar lynch. But at that time i was to busy being pissed off to give a fuck. If we had had a consistent vote count I would of acted sooner. But I really didn't know where we stood on whos getting lynched.

Also I don't redact anything that I said. I think that at least 2-3 of the scum are on the Palmar Wagon. Think about it Palmar is a town monster. (The main reason I didn't want to lynch him) Scum will be afraid of him and they should. I have seen this guy legit call out the entire scum team day 1. Needless to say we (I was on the scum team) Shot his ass day 1.

Look over what palmar said and consider his reads. He is known for being an amazing town player for a reason. I also am still pissed off at you fuckers btw for lynching him. Ugh so aggravating.

Jay;
We can't always have what we want.
I wish most people werent lurking so hard
You wish, Palmar was still here.

Fact; Palmar was gracious enough to share his reads with us; and was pretty much advocating the whole time to "vote him". You need to accept that this was his decision, and move on.

Being pissed at town is not going to help the situation; and others might even read this as an excuse from you to not bother contributing further.

If you want to "honour his lynch" I suggest you follow your lead
On February 11 2013 10:55 BioSC wrote:
Palmar (6): Snarfs, phagga, yamato77, jaybrundage, mocsta, Mr. Cheesecake, prplhz

and pressure who you think is scum on that wagon.



I think it is a really really poor excuse to blame not butting in early, because GM didnt make a post count. Its not hard to ctrl+f "##Vote".. if it was important enough to you, you would have done it. Stop throwing responsibility to others, when the buck stopped with you.

yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
February 11 2013 03:45 GMT
#1059
One heuristic that I find important to mention about the behavior of people around yesterday's lynch is simple activity.

Assume that Sloosh and Mocsta are town. With Palmar's green flip, that means that I was wrong and mafia decided to make the lynch a choice between three town players. They don't care who dies, really, because any of the three is good for them. So mafia are more inclined to not care at all what happens yesterday. They lurk, slap their vote somewhere, and do nothing relevant to the game because there is zero chance of them getting lynched and they have no reason to push a mafia agenda.

So who fits this bill from yesterday? Snarfs, jay, and djo. Djo is the question mark of the three, because he simply didn't post at all. The other two, however, had very similar days and patterns of activity. They both slapped their vote on someone early, and then basically AFK'd. Right now, I think Snarfs is the best lynch because of this behavior and his similar behavior around the lynch day 1 where he didn't vote JX but rather put Hus vote on VE and used his 'case' as an excuse to not comment on the actual lynch. He should die today.

##Vote Snarfs

As for other reads, obviously I think jay is an acceptable alternative lynch candidate. I defended him early day 1 but since then he's done very little, which is more in line with how I view his scum meta. When he's town he at least cares enough to post his thoughts, but this game he's not even doing that anymore and is probably mafia for it.

Phagga is scummy, as others have outlined. I don't see him as red as I do snarfs or jay, but he's on my radar. If I was making a hypothetical scum team, I'd say the fourth might be Oats. In the past day his activity has dropped off a cliff and I don't know what his reads in the game are anymore. He seems to be sticking to his guns from day 1 but has no new information to support his reads and hasn't been very active in the game.

For town reads, Mocsta and Sloosh look really town to me, mostly from their play while under the gun. I'm more confident on Mocsta than Sloosh, but I would defend either one's towniness. VE and prplhz are also both town to me, despite other player's suspicions of them. If I need to defend them today, I will, because neither show scum traits to me at all.

Cheesecake, you asked for my read on you. You lean town to me, but you're real blendy and not at all confrontational like I think town CC is. I suppose you haven't been accused seriously yet, but you also aren't going out of your way to pressure your reads like I think town CC usually does. You're more null than I expected at this point in the game.

If you guys think I'm mafia for serious, come at me, but neither case from yesterday is at all good. I've been the towniest yamato of all time. Bring the cases on.
Writer@WriterYamato
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
February 11 2013 03:48 GMT
#1060
Cant sleep phone posting from bed and keep refreshing lol... I agree we should look at palmars reads. but lets not take them as some holy grail of truth, just into consideration. Jay, i think you fail to see why palmar was lynched. activity basically
... any more talk of it is useless. You can say its scum driven all you want. Hell, it probably is with that many votes. problem is, its not going to help us if we point fingers for voting palmar. The nominations are scums way of forcing us to make decisions... and a way for us to get mad at each other. either you're falling into that trap or are scum trying to blow the lynch upinto everyone who was on it was scummy thing.

hey oats. pie or cheesecake?
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
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