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marvellosity
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thrawn2112
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Keirathi
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marvellosity
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Day 1 ![[image loading]](http://scrapetv.com/News/News%20Pages/Business/images-5/old-west-brothel.jpg) Well, isn't this alluring. The Brothel de Liquidia was a dank, depressing place. The wallpaper was peeling, and water dripped from the ceilings. For too long had the seedy house been left to rot, with no care or money spent on its wellbeing. The ladies who worked inside this hellhole were fed up. Almost all the money they made soliciting their wares went to the pimps, who lived in luxury while they lived in penury. Tensions were at breaking point. Lady Gill Marsha strode down one of the lengthy corridors. Only she really knew her way around the labyrinthian corridors of the brothel. Inside her pink frilly knickers was a small dagger that she kept with her at all times to protect her from the pundits. She finally came to an unsuspecting door. To the untrained eye it looked disused and abandoned, but she knew better. Lady Gill Marsha flung open the door and marched inside. Inside, a man sat at his desk. A man she once had passion for, but had broken her heart. "What are you doing here, Gill?" InConspicuo asked, his eyes narrowing. "Get back to your room." "Not this time," she hissed, eyes blazing. She lunged forward and thrust her knife through his heart. InConspicuo gasped and clutched at his chest, his eyes bulging, as the life started to drain out of his eyes. Naturally, being an evil pimp, he always had a gun on hand, and in his dying breaths used it to blow Lady Gill Marsha's head clean off. The fight for the Brothel de Liquidia has begun. InConspicuo, Granddaddyo Pimp, was stabbed in the heart! Lady Gill Marsha, the Belle Dame of the Brothel, was shot in the head! You have about 47 hours to decide the lynch. | ||
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thrawn2112
United States6918 Posts
blah blah blah lurkers r bad blah blah, etc | ||
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kushm4sta
United States8878 Posts
#1 They make the game shittier regardless of if they are scum. #2 They are 100% null reads all game long. You ask them a question and of course they aren't going to responsd because they post like 1 thing a day and dont even read the thread. #3 It gives scum safe people to accuse. Most of the time they aren't mafia but in the 2 games I played both of them had semi-lurker mafia. Lurker Policy: LYNCH ALL LURKERS, semilurkers at the top of the lynch list if we don't have a very strong scumread to bandwagon. | ||
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thrawn2112
United States6918 Posts
So on to more important matters, here's an idea: last person in the thread gets lynched discuss? | ||
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RemedySC
Canada176 Posts
Lets focus on getting a mafia lynch for the first day. | ||
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kushm4sta
United States8878 Posts
On September 18 2012 11:00 thrawn2112 wrote: Yeah I agree, there's not much else to add other than that lurkers are assholes and they are going to lurk whether there is strong support of a lurker lynch policy or not... especially in these newbie games. So on to more important matters, here's an idea: last person in the thread gets lynched discuss? Terrible idea? Since we prob have liek 3 different time zones. Biggest lurker gets lynched is a better plan but still not that great. A lot of noobs are pretty lost about what to do day 1. Here are my suggestions for discussion topics: 1 discuss lurker policy. I know you are bored with it or whatever, thrawn, but for peopel to say how they feel about lurkers and if they want to lynch them or let them lurk (both are viable strategies imo) gives us a baseline for FOSing people that go back on their lurker policy. Like what if a scum says lynch all lurkers, then one of the scumbuddies turns out to be the biggest lurker. That puts him in a bad position that he could avoid without lurker policy discussion. 2 I think we should discuss a plan for how to spend time. Here is my proposed plan: Freely making cases against anyone you think is scum in the first 24 hours of the day, then focusing on a couple of the biggest bandwagons in the second 24 hours. Do you like this plan or do you have a better one? I would a more systematic scumhunt this game though. 3 Give an introduction of yourself. How experienced are you? Are you a total noob or have you obsed some games? Very important IMO is will you be around for lynch time? That's 9 pm normal time btw if you are new. How active do you plan on being. Honestly I think once a day is okay IF your posts are good. An intro for myself is coming. | ||
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kushm4sta
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No fluff zone: posting habits I probably will post a lot because I have no life. I work but my work is basically a study hall so I will be posting on my phone at work. That is why sometimes my spelling and formatting will be ass. experience I have 2 games played and I have won both games and never killed. So far I am unkilled and undefeated and I want to continue my streak so I will be tryharding this game, but not tryharding enough so I'm the best town and mafia kills me. Call it selfish but I dont want to die... @thrawn I know you have 3 games undefeated but you got killed by scum therefore you aren't as cool as me. I am looking to step up my play this game. Last game was quite humbling for me. I made a lot of bad calls, and d1 caused a mislynch >< IM SORRY CUBU So I'm going to try to be more careful and have better analysis this game. Lynch time I will be around on my phone at least. I think deciding on a lynch at the last minute is a really powerful tool for town beacuse it makes scum panic and do stupid things. However that's really not possible with this mess of time zones we got going on here. | ||
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thrawn2112
United States6918 Posts
On September 18 2012 11:18 kushm4sta wrote: Terrible idea? Since we prob have liek 3 different time zones. Biggest lurker gets lynched is a better plan but still not that great. A lot of noobs are pretty lost about what to do day 1. Here are my suggestions for discussion topics: 1 discuss lurker policy. I know you are bored with it or whatever, thrawn, but for peopel to say how they feel about lurkers and if they want to lynch them or let them lurk (both are viable strategies imo) gives us a baseline for FOSing people that go back on their lurker policy. Like what if a scum says lynch all lurkers, then one of the scumbuddies turns out to be the biggest lurker. That puts him in a bad position that he could avoid without lurker policy discussion. Eh, lurker policy is a pretty obvious thing to talk about and shouldn't last longer than maybe a single statement (if that) from each player. However like you implied having something to talk about is better than having nothing but in my past games town went on and on about lurkers for like 12 hours which is obviously bad. On September 18 2012 11:18 kushm4sta wrote:2 I think we should discuss a plan for how to spend time. Here is my proposed plan: Freely making cases against anyone you think is scum in the first 24 hours of the day, then focusing on a couple of the biggest bandwagons in the second 24 hours. Do you like this plan or do you have a better one? I would a more systematic scumhunt this game though. Lets not get too carried away with deciding on exactly how we'll proceed... that makes it very easy for mafia to hide. Remember the list stuff in our last game? Wasn't it sonic who proposed that idea and he ended up being scum and was able to hide his reads behind it because other people were also making lists? On September 18 2012 11:18 kushm4sta wrote:3 Give an introduction of yourself. How experienced are you? Are you a total noob or have you obsed some games? Very important IMO is will you be around for lynch time? That's 9 pm normal time btw if you are new. How active do you plan on being. Honestly I think once a day is okay IF your posts are good. This is my last newbie game and I like writing long posts with lots of quotes. I should be around for lynch time during the week days but maybe not during the weekends. Also, wtf kush. "Honestly I think once a day is okay IF your posts are good" after you talk about how much you hate lurkers? On September 18 2012 11:18 kushm4sta wrote:An intro for myself is coming. I'll write you an intro. Hey everyone this is kush. Judging off his username I suspcet he is a fellow lover of the ganja, which probably explains a lot of his posts. He says whatever comes to mind, and in the games I played with him he said a lot of very scummy sounding things as a townie. So basically expect to be confused. He likes going for crazy ballsy plays which often is the reason why I always thought he was town, as scum would have to be crazy to do those things. | ||
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debears
United States2516 Posts
In terms of lurker policy, We should put pressure on lurkers seeing as they don't help us although they aren't necessarily mafia. However, when a candidate for mafia appears, they should be our priority for lynch. Lynching the final poster is a bad idea simply because it's a crapshoot. It isn't based on logic and reasoning. Its main purpose is to rid of the player who contributes last rather than the player who is most likely mafia. And in terms of a town plan, I think accusation is a good thing that will generate discussion. Let's keep the accusations within reason with good evidence. And I believe that putting a 24 hour timer for accusations is a good baseline until we have most people posting. | ||
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kushm4sta
United States8878 Posts
On September 18 2012 11:44 thrawn2112 wrote: Also, wtf kush. "Honestly I think once a day is okay IF your posts are good" after you talk about how much you hate lurkers? If you write 1 post a day but it's a brilliant epic post then that's cool with me. I can be realistic about people's busy schedules. And that is WAY better than a few little posts with no content. .. and I'm looking at you STUTTERS, DRAZAK, and ESPECIALLY CUBU who were all town last game but pretty trash town. I'll write you an intro. Hey everyone this is kush. Judging off his username I suspcet he is a fellow lover of the ganja, which probably explains a lot of his posts. He says whatever comes to mind, and in the games I played with him he said a lot of very scummy sounding things as a townie. So basically expect to be confused. He likes going for crazy ballsy plays which often is the reason why I always thought he was town, as scum would have to be crazy to do those things. And I like to attention whore esp day 1. and If you accuse me of being scum I will omgus and start a flame war with you just because im really sensitive and hate being called scum. drazak knows what I'm talking about. Im trying to play better this game though so f u thrawn. | ||
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kushm4sta
United States8878 Posts
On September 18 2012 11:11 RemedySC wrote: Lurkers are a minor annoyance sure, but I think just lynching based on lurker status could end up hurting us more so as the game progresses. Lets focus on getting a mafia lynch for the first day. remedy getting a good scum read d1 is impossible. It's the easiest thing ever for scum to look like town day 1. Unless we have no lurkers, we should lynch the biggest lurker or the scumiest semilurker but please not someone active. | ||
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thrawn2112
United States6918 Posts
I disagree with: On September 18 2012 12:08 kushm4sta wrote: remedy getting a good scum read d1 is impossible. It happens occasionally. But of course since it's somewhat rare, I think it's perfectly reasonable for everyone to agree with the following: We should scumhunt and make accusations and all that stuff and not discuss who is the best lurker candidate until it's close (maybe around halfway or so into the 2nd 24 period of D1) to the deadline and under the condition that we didn't catch anyone making scumslips, telling lies, shit like that. Not discussing lurker lynch candidates doesn't mean ignoring lurkers... we can pressure them without arguing over who is the lurkiest. That happened in my last game (we spent all of day 1 arguing over who was the lurkiest) and our main candidates ended up being town. This is all I have to say about lurker policy unless we get over halfway into D1 with no good lynch candidates. So yeah, everyone say your opinion about lurker policy then let's drop the issue asap. | ||
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RemedySC
Canada176 Posts
On September 18 2012 11:18 kushm4sta wrote: Here are my suggestions for discussion topics: I will try to discuss all your topics. On September 18 2012 11:18 kushm4sta wrote: 1 discuss lurker policy. I know you are bored with it or whatever, thrawn, but for peopel to say how they feel about lurkers and if they want to lynch them or let them lurk (both are viable strategies imo) gives us a baseline for FOSing people that go back on their lurker policy. Like what if a scum says lynch all lurkers, then one of the scumbuddies turns out to be the biggest lurker. That puts him in a bad position that he could avoid without lurker policy discussion. I don't think we should waste the first lynch on a lurker. Without sufficient information it could end up being detrimental to us. However I don't want to forget about people who are lurking and leave them unscrutinized. On September 18 2012 11:18 kushm4sta wrote: 2 I think we should discuss a plan for how to spend time. Here is my proposed plan: Freely making cases against anyone you think is scum in the first 24 hours of the day, then focusing on a couple of the biggest bandwagons in the second 24 hours. Do you like this plan or do you have a better one? I would a more systematic scumhunt this game though. We have to start somewhere, so I'll post a theory. + Show Spoiler + On September 18 2012 11:18 kushm4sta wrote: I am so fucking sick of lurkers from last game. #1 They make the game shittier regardless of if they are scum. #2 They are 100% null reads all game long. You ask them a question and of course they aren't going to responsd because they post like 1 thing a day and dont even read the thread. #3 It gives scum safe people to accuse. Most of the time they aren't mafia but in the 2 games I played both of them had semi-lurker mafia. Lurker Policy: LYNCH ALL LURKERS, semilurkers at the top of the lynch list if we don't have a very strong scumread to bandwagon. Kushm4sta, you say that it gives scum safe people to accuse, and I agree with that point, but your comment in your policy looks like it would fit that point. It would be pretty safe for a mafia if they were able to convince people to lynch lurkers. Also Thrawn pointed out your contradiction. So right now i am FOSing kushm4sta. On September 18 2012 11:18 kushm4sta wrote: 3 Give an introduction of yourself. How experienced are you? Are you a total noob or have you obsed some games? Very important IMO is will you be around for lynch time? That's 9 pm normal time btw if you are new. How active do you plan on being. Honestly I think once a day is okay IF your posts are good. I am RemedySC. This is my first game ever, although I read through two previous threads. I have the lynch day off work, so I will be around a lot that day. | ||
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thrawn2112
United States6918 Posts
On September 18 2012 12:25 RemedySC wrote: We have to start somewhere, so I'll post a theory. Kushm4sta, you say that it gives scum safe people to accuse, and I agree with that point, but your comment in your policy looks like it would fit that point. It would be pretty safe for a mafia if they were able to convince people to lynch lurkers. So you agree with his point about lurkers. There isn't much room for argument when it comes down to the reasoning behind lurker policy, there is no sane player that will say "lurkers are pro-town." So him having that anti-lurker opinion is not anything that would be a strong tell in either the town or mafia direction. He would have it as town, and he would "pretend" to have it as mafia. I don't see his post as anything indicative of him as scum trying to blend in by saying normal things. On September 18 2012 12:25 RemedySC wrote:Also Thrawn pointed out your contradiction. He did give a reasonable response to my post... but kush I'd like to ask you, how would you feel about specifically me only posting once per cycle? | ||
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kushm4sta
United States8878 Posts
Ok so let me explain that statement. I'm saying lurkers are automatic 100% null reads. They could be town they could be scum. The problem with leaving lurkers to fester day after day is that it gives scum someone safe to FOS and say they want to lynch. The problem is not in actually killing the lurkers, which is what I want to do, but leaving them for half of the town to be mad at and waste discussion on day after day. Which leads me to my next point: I agree with thrawn that lurker lynch candidates should NOT be discussed until later in the day when we are deciding who gets the lynch. I think that is a policy all town should agree on. Lurkers by their very nature make no or very little content to discuss. | ||
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kushm4sta
United States8878 Posts
On September 18 2012 12:36 thrawn2112 wrote: He did give a reasonable response to my post... but kush I'd like to ask you, how would you feel about specifically me only posting once per cycle? I'm always terrified of thrawn scum because, as I said before, I think it would be really hard to see through your meta. But having said that, I know that you have limited time, because you have been talking about it for quite a while and way before this game even started. So I would understand you posting once a day, I woudl not think it was scummy. I'm still watching you extra close though... every move you make every vow you break every smile you fake every claim you stake ill be watching you. afk im going to bed. | ||
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