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legaton
Profile Joined December 2010
France1763 Posts
December 07 2011 09:37 GMT
#961
Game 4 was really good, best game of the night i believe.

Game 5 was disappointing

Thanks nanashin for the stream
No GG, No Skill - Jaedong <3
RJGooner
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2110 Posts
December 07 2011 09:38 GMT
#962
On December 07 2011 18:35 Yxes2211 wrote:
That was January-esk


To be fair the alternatives weren't very good either (Modesty? Dear?) Still a bad decision though.
#1 Jaehoon Fan! 김재훈 화팅!
kuroshiroi
Profile Joined November 2010
3149 Posts
December 07 2011 09:38 GMT
#963
Poor STX. They don't even have a JD to guarantee a win, poor Bogus tried his hardest but Soulkey was too much for him. At least that game was good.

CJ vs. Khan and then KT vs. SKT this week, pretty sweet.
Fly Jaedong, fly!
Hyde
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Australia14568 Posts
December 07 2011 09:38 GMT
#964
On December 07 2011 18:36 Holgerius wrote:
At least we got 1 game that will go down as one of the best TvZs of the season.

That, along with the 3rd set was enough to make tonight worth watching.

On another note, I kind of feel sorry for Hyvaa, especially after seeing his face when he came out of the booth to do that team cheer thing, he looked destroyed
Because when you left, Brood War was all spotlights and titans. Now, with the death of the big leagues, Brood War has moved to the basements and carparks. Now, Brood War is unlicensed brawls, lost teeth, and bloody fights for fistfulls of money - SirJolt
thopol
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Japan4560 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-07 09:39:19
December 07 2011 09:38 GMT
#965
On December 07 2011 18:36 L_Master wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2011 18:33 Legatus Lanius wrote:
i still rate zero higher than hydra, and i cant really comment on effort yet, so im going to put soulkey ahead of him and hydra as well. soulkey is no slouch v z and, while hes not better than hydra imo, his other matchups more than make up for it.

if everyone is at their peak, id go with jaedong > zero > soulkey > hydra, without counting effort


I largely agree with this; ZerO is just tricky cause he is inconsistent. I really feel consistency is a necessary quality to be a considered a top player. When top players come out you get the feeling that they are always going to show up and bring solid game and with ZerO this is not always the case.

When he is on he is an absolute monster though. Playing well I think ZerO is as good as, maybe better, than anyone else.

Talking peak skill:
JD > Luxury > Calm > Zero

EDIT: Am I watching an AKB movie? I knew they were big in the otaku crowd, but this yanki vibe is new to me...
Yxes2211
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1587 Posts
December 07 2011 09:38 GMT
#966
So glad I traded Bogus for Baby lol
Jaedong and Baby
matjlav
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany2435 Posts
December 07 2011 09:38 GMT
#967
I wonder if Light gets that same guilty feeling when beating the likes of Hyvaa that I get when beating D- people on iccup...
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-07 09:40:25
December 07 2011 09:39 GMT
#968
Next 2 days are going to be siiiiiiick.
CJ vs Khan tomorrow and KT vs T1 on Friday,can't fucking wait!
Great games today as well,soulkey and mini really really shined.
Cackle™
kuroshiroi
Profile Joined November 2010
3149 Posts
December 07 2011 09:39 GMT
#969
On December 07 2011 18:38 RJGooner wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2011 18:35 Yxes2211 wrote:
That was January-esk


To be fair the alternatives weren't very good either (Modesty? Dear?) Still a bad decision though.

If you're expecting Light, you send a fucking protoss, his worst matchup by far. Not bad (any more) but still his worst. Dear would have put up way more of a fight than that and if you're afraid his late game will suck, make him DT rush. Coach lost this game without even trying, imao.
Fly Jaedong, fly!
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
December 07 2011 09:39 GMT
#970
still could have send classic, Hyvaa has bad ZvT and Light has godly TvZ. His TvT and TvP is much weaker, which could have been classic or Dear.
WriterXiao8~~
Crisium
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States1618 Posts
December 07 2011 09:39 GMT
#971
STX coach definitely pulled a January.
Broodwar and Stork forever! List of BW players with most Ro16, Ro8: http://tinyurl.com/BWRo16-Ro8
Phyrigian
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
New Zealand1332 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-07 09:41:05
December 07 2011 09:40 GMT
#972
--- Nuked ---
Assymptotic
Profile Joined February 2009
United States552 Posts
December 07 2011 09:40 GMT
#973
Watching these games made me miss Kal...argh.
So close, and yet so far
endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-07 09:43:25
December 07 2011 09:41 GMT
#974
On December 07 2011 18:34 RJGooner wrote:
I'm still scratching my head over the STX coach sending Hyvaa there


January doesn't troll anymore, so STX coach has to step up.

edit : I was multiple ninja'd about January.

ॐ
HighTemper
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada3867 Posts
December 07 2011 09:42 GMT
#975
Thanks nanashin and T.O.P (and Kiante) for streaming!!
"Issue the orders Sir [JangBi], and I will storm Hell." - Anthony Wayne
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
December 07 2011 09:42 GMT
#976
On December 07 2011 18:40 Assymptotic wrote:
Watching these games made me miss Kal...argh.

A Kal there to snipe Light would've been great.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
December 07 2011 09:42 GMT
#977
On December 07 2011 18:32 doothegee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2011 18:30 L_Master wrote:
On December 07 2011 18:21 Ideas wrote:
On December 07 2011 18:17 Phyrigian wrote:
On December 07 2011 18:15 L_Master wrote:
I'm telling you guys, and I've been saying this for a while: SK is one of the three best Zerg's out there. Only JD, effOrt, and to a lesser extend; hydra, compare.

I still can't believe I got him for 6 and effOrt for 5. That's just unfair.


i'd say jaedong > effort = hydra > zero > soulkey

but yeah, he really is top tier, kinda underrated


seriously? effort wins a sloppy ZvZ vs hyvaa and beats iris and suddenly he's the 2nd best zerg in the world?


effOrt was the second best zerg before he retired, and seems to be at full strength. He has looked reasonably solid in his games. Moreover his coach has said he is quite close to his past level, and Flash has mentioned that he is losing more to effOrt in practice games than he used to.

While we don't have significant data to go off there doesn't seem to be much evidence to suggest effort is not at his pre-retirement level. It's a bit of a crapshoot to rank effort but since I have nothing to indicate he is worse than before I still see him as a top, if not #2, zerg.

As much as I love Effort, he was only considered the #2 zerg before he retired because Zero and Calm decided to start sucking. Effort was pretty terrible before his retirement except for those 5 wins against Flash.


He was 16/20 before playing FlaSh. That's not exactly what I would call terrible. He was in a little slump for about 4 or 5 months proceeding that but even during that he was still around 50% WR. Probably just a case of burnout/lost motivation and subsequent re-discovery of it.
EffOrt and Soulkey Hwaiting!
thopol
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Japan4560 Posts
December 07 2011 09:42 GMT
#978
On December 07 2011 18:39 Kipsate wrote:
still could have send classic, Hyvaa has bad ZvT and Light has godly TvZ. His TvT and TvP is much weaker, which could have been classic or Dear.

Hyvaa changed teams, went through a slump that could be expected, and at the end of last season started seeing some success again. I don't think career stats say that much given the recent history and the fact that his role could be changed by different coaches using/approaching him differently as a player. For all we know Hyvaa has been practicing nothing but vT during the break. STX_Hyvaa hasn't been around long enough and there is far too much unknown information to say that sending him was a poor decision.
Motivate
Profile Joined June 2011
2860 Posts
December 07 2011 09:43 GMT
#979
On December 07 2011 18:41 endy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2011 18:34 RJGooner wrote:
I'm still scratching my head over the STX coach sending Hyvaa there


January doesn't troll anymore, so STX coach has to step up

LOLOL send reality in ace match xD

damn i missed light's tvz cos i was distracted watching HIMYM eh sounded like a roflstomp though so not worth my time
kuroshiroi
Profile Joined November 2010
3149 Posts
December 07 2011 09:46 GMT
#980
On December 07 2011 18:43 Motivate wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2011 18:41 endy wrote:
On December 07 2011 18:34 RJGooner wrote:
I'm still scratching my head over the STX coach sending Hyvaa there


January doesn't troll anymore, so STX coach has to step up

LOLOL send reality in ace match xD

Reality is their best terran. When in doubt, send a T. Not really trolling, especially since he won.
Fly Jaedong, fly!
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