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risk.nuke
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wherebugsgo
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risk.nuke
Sweden2825 Posts
On November 18 2011 04:58 wherebugsgo wrote: I think Nisani should probably die at some point. Preferably tomorrow. Why? and lets focus on today for now. | ||
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GreYMisT
United States6736 Posts
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risk.nuke
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Cyber_Cheese
Australia3615 Posts
xsksc- http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessag...=282366&user=149333 Nisani201- http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessag...=282366&user=105586 LSB- http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessag...d=282366&user=71916 There are all in the same situation as Hiroruby, what makes you choose Hiroruby over them, except that it's the lynch Chaoser approves of? Chaoser decided to pick one of these lurkers to use as an alternate target for a "good day 1 lynch." | ||
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Cyber_Cheese
Australia3615 Posts
On November 18 2011 04:41 GreYMisT wrote: What I'm saying is that making those early posts is very easy to do as mafia, and can get you some effortless town cred. then he dissapeared once we started discussing stuff. This is why he is different from the other lurkers. | ||
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GreYMisT
United States6736 Posts
On November 18 2011 05:09 Cyber_Cheese wrote: How about these people xsksc- http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessag...=282366&user=149333 Nisani201- http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessag...=282366&user=105586 LSB- http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessag...d=282366&user=71916 There are all in the same situation as Hiroruby, what makes you choose Hiroruby over them, except that it's the lynch Chaoser approves of? Chaoser decided to pick one of these lurkers to use as an alternate target for a "good day 1 lynch." Its not because Chaoser "approves." Even though they are lurking, at least the people you mentioned have put some work/original thought into their posts. the fact that hiroruby hasnt is the reason I think he is better than those other three. I have to write a Biology paper, but I should be back before the night post. | ||
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chaoser
United States5541 Posts
I haven't read over xsksc's posts yet. Sinani is the best lurker to lynch Hiroruby is the best scummy person to lynch, I never said I want to lynch him primarily cause he's lurking. | ||
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
1. Anyone who thinks Hiroruby is a good lynch for today probably has not properly read the posts he has made or the posts of the players who started the case on him. 2: On November 18 2011 05:07 risk.nuke wrote: Wbg what do you think of Coagulation? As I said on the last page (I think?) Coag originally looked pretty scummy to me because he was gone and he came back and voted an already dead player. He also has contributed almost nothing. However, unlike the other lurkers he said something that rings very true; if there is chaos and disorganization in the thread, we cannot focus on who we should be lynching. The sources of this disorganization should be our focus. Currently, the biggest source is chaoser. After chaoser come players like Drazerk and bum. Bum isn't seeding much disorganization but he is slipping by while saying incredibly weird things. His post on coagulation was very scummy, for example. 3. There are a couple players who were earlier active and are now doing nothing. The biggest who comes to mind is LSB. We can't focus on him today though, just keep this in mind. Watch for these players, because scum will often disappear randomly and then reappear. Be wary when listening to these players, because if they have erratic activity patterns that probably means that they are pushing an agenda by staying away from the thread and then jumping in at key moments. If such a player is gone and then enters the thread, look carefully at what that player is pushing. Look at who it might potentially cover up or bring attention away from. Do not ignore it. Read his posts, and look at when he enters the thread. His thoughts concern me, because I think almost all of them are wrong. What's weird is that he's voted Drazerk, which might suggest Drazerk isn't scum. Indeed, look also at how he never substantiates any of his votes. He has a vote on Forumite, Palmar, Drazerk, and he had one on Kenpachi. None of these votes are substantiated and town Nisani usually tries to say something about a person before simply voting them. He also tries to get other people to agree with him and gets mad when people don't. When I was scum in MLP, for example, he just tunneled me and refused to see anything else. He was right, and he kept providing reasons for me being scum. But, in this game, he's just floating by under the radar while adding to the mess by voting people for no reason. We can't let people get away with that. We need to pressure them and ask them why they are doing that. Unfortunately the best way to do that is to vote them. I don't intend to split my vote any further, so I cannot effectively pressure all of these people. The rest of you need to pick it up and do that. IMO if we implement a policy tomorrow such that we limit the votes to two per person, we'll see less distraction and more cohesion. Indeed, if anyone begins to randomly vote without cause tomorrow I'm going to be incredibly suspicious. There is nothing more we can do today, since the day is almost over. | ||
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Nisani201
United States1400 Posts
On November 18 2011 04:58 wherebugsgo wrote: I think Nisani should probably die at some point. Preferably tomorrow. why | ||
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chaoser
United States5541 Posts
The sources of this disorganization should be our focus. Currently, the biggest source is chaoser. Where in this thread do you see disorganization? The primary focus on today has been on me, kenpachi, and lanaia. So where do you see disorganization? | ||
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Zona
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Nisani201
United States1400 Posts
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
Kenpachi has been lynched, now we move on. As has been stated multiple times, we must leave Lanaia to a later day because we need to see Kenpachi's flip. If kenpachi flips scum then we need to kill Lanaia tomorrow. That's all we can conclude about that. If Kenpachi flips town then we treat Lanaia like any other player, but simply one who made a mistake at a weird time of day. The disorganization stems from the fact that people consider Hiroruby a good lynch today. People are voting with very minimal reasoning and generally bad logic. We're still talking about lynching lurkers when someone is already dead. At this point a lurker lynch is a waste of a lynch, since we have at least 3 people who aren't lurking but are excellent lynches. Namely, chaoser, bum, Drazerk. | ||
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wherebugsgo
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wherebugsgo
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On November 18 2011 05:28 Nisani201 wrote: WBG you are so wrong... I provided a reason for every single one my votes. Okay, I think I understand now. On November 17 2011 08:55 Nisani201 wrote: Just read through the thread. A lot of shit is going down. But most of it is irrelevant. Kenpachi is not irrelevant. He should die. ##Vote: Kenpachi That's not a reason. "Kenpachi is irrelevant therefore he should die" is not a reason for him being scum. On November 17 2011 10:02 Nisani201 wrote: Palmar needs to get lynched. His case against chaoser is stupid, and he has barely been doing anything throughout this game. His vote on Lanaia is also scummy. ##Vote: Palmar That sounds like a reason, but actually it's just bull. Completely unsubstantiated. On November 17 2011 02:16 Nisani201 wrote: Both of them are bullshit. First we have this case against LSB, which I already mentioned: And then we have this: He is pressuring them based on bullshit cases. ------------ In regards to chaoser, I don't think that Palmar's analysis has enough evidence to prove him guilty. Just because it's Palmar doesn't mean that we can't look at his analysees objectively. When Palmar asked you "what case is bullshit" you just picked the two and said they're bullshit. You didn't say why. You didn't point out anything that seemed fabricated. You just said they're bullshit. Real convincing, dude. On November 18 2011 01:58 Nisani201 wrote: I just read through Drazerk's filter. He has been jumping on bandwagons and supporting bad lynches this whole game. Seriously, why aren't more people voting for him? ##Vote: Drazerk This one makes you a hypocrite, since you also voted Kenpachi. The problem is that both you and Drazerk look terrible, and neither of you has amazing town play. Drazerk is straight up bad as town (no offense, Drazerk you defended yourself by saying that lol). I'd rather vote you over Drazerk right now since you seem to be soft-defending chaoser at every turn, and I don't like chaoser right now. So, you need to die. ##unvote Drazerk ##vote Nisani201 | ||
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Nisani201
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wherebugsgo
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Drazerk
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