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On November 17 2011 19:53 Tyrran wrote:
@Lanaia : So you did not want to claim d1, yet you used your anti-vote fully aware that he would show up?? This contradiction is the reason i still think you migth be scum.
Conclusion
Likely scum : Drazerk, Hyshes, Palmar, Hiroruby, Sinani206
Likely Town : Lanaia, LemonWalrus, GreyMisT, Zephirrd
Confirmed Town: risk.Nuke.
This is based on this analysis alone, I ignored on purpose most of the post that did not relate to the Kenpachi/lanaia Case. The goal was to find potential scum, we still need to confirm them ! I think we should not lynch anyone for now. If Kenpachi does not flip red, Focus on the likely scum above. If not, we lynched a red :D, and back to the drawing board, to re use risk.nuke wording.
What do you guys think ? I would love some feedback on this.
It is because I am a goddamn idiot. Also, I agree with your reads.
On November 18 2011 01:48 Sabin010 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2011 01:35 hyshes wrote:
oh god.. it could be i meant "then" i actually don't know which is right.. than or then? im a native speaker and still havent figured that one out bro.
It is most definitely then.
Okay, dammit, what was I going to say. I've forgotten...
I think I am going to vote Drazerk as he does feel fairly scummy to me at this moment (after reading his ISO and people's cases on him).
On November 18 2011 02:01 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2011 01:58 Nisani201 wrote:
I just read through Drazerk's filter. He has been jumping on bandwagons and supporting bad lynches this whole game.
Seriously, why aren't more people voting for him?
##Vote: Drazerk Probably because I am not scum and will never be lynched even if they try
This in particular bothers me a lot. Especially the ending there, "will never be lynched even if they try." Certainly feels like someone is full of himself.
##Vote: Drazerk
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##vote: Coagulation
Forgot to do it earlier
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On November 18 2011 02:01 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2011 01:58 Nisani201 wrote:
I just read through Drazerk's filter. He has been jumping on bandwagons and supporting bad lynches this whole game.
Seriously, why aren't more people voting for him?
##Vote: Drazerk Probably because I am not scum and will never be lynched even if they try
So, if I'm not mistaken, your claiming to be lynchproof?
If you aren't, you are lying and should be lynched for it. If you are, then lynching you will confirm it.
Unless I'm missing something here
##Vote: Drazerk
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On November 18 2011 02:38 Cyber_Cheese wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2011 02:01 Drazerk wrote:On November 18 2011 01:58 Nisani201 wrote:
I just read through Drazerk's filter. He has been jumping on bandwagons and supporting bad lynches this whole game.
Seriously, why aren't more people voting for him?
##Vote: Drazerk Probably because I am not scum and will never be lynched even if they try So, if I'm not mistaken, your claiming to be lynchproof? If you aren't, you are lying and should be lynched for it. If you are, then lynching you will confirm it. Unless I'm missing something here ##Vote: Drazerk
Your missing something but it's ok
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On November 18 2011 02:39 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2011 02:38 Cyber_Cheese wrote:On November 18 2011 02:01 Drazerk wrote:On November 18 2011 01:58 Nisani201 wrote:
I just read through Drazerk's filter. He has been jumping on bandwagons and supporting bad lynches this whole game.
Seriously, why aren't more people voting for him?
##Vote: Drazerk Probably because I am not scum and will never be lynched even if they try So, if I'm not mistaken, your claiming to be lynchproof? If you aren't, you are lying and should be lynched for it. If you are, then lynching you will confirm it. Unless I'm missing something here ##Vote: Drazerk Your missing something but it's ok
I must be, because [green]the vote didn't update in the OP
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Can someone explain to me how risk.nuke is confirmed town?
Didn't know you could be confirmed town on day 1...or hell, ever...
##unvote Lemonwalrus
##vote bumatlarge
##unvote Coagulation
##vote Drazerk
My vote is still on chaoser; bum said a very strange thing about Coagulation lurking as scum after I went to sleep, Drazerk has gone back to find the games where he handicapped town by his bad play in order to defend himself, and...yeah.
I unvoted Coagulation because of two posts he made after he realised his mistake. He said something only a couple others have realised; the current chaos in the thread and the massive amounts of vote splitting is hugely in favour of scum. As I said earlier we need to focus so that scum feel pressure, rather than go after 20 different targets and expect to actually gain something that way. He also seems more like a busy townie who doesn't have time to post tha scum with an agenda, so I'd like to stick to my original idea of killing him tomorrow if he doesn't do anything.
Lemon is suspicious because of the way he is sheeping chaoser, but that alone isn't enough to incriminate him. I'm going to reread the relevant pages several more times and see if anything pops out.
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On November 18 2011 02:39 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2011 02:38 Cyber_Cheese wrote:On November 18 2011 02:01 Drazerk wrote:On November 18 2011 01:58 Nisani201 wrote:
I just read through Drazerk's filter. He has been jumping on bandwagons and supporting bad lynches this whole game.
Seriously, why aren't more people voting for him?
##Vote: Drazerk Probably because I am not scum and will never be lynched even if they try So, if I'm not mistaken, your claiming to be lynchproof? If you aren't, you are lying and should be lynched for it. If you are, then lynching you will confirm it. Unless I'm missing something here ##Vote: Drazerk Your missing something but it's ok
I must be, because the vote didn't update in the OP
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wow, reading through Drazerk's filter was quite enlightening.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=282366&user=107918¤tpage=All
I honestly think we should take his own advise:
On November 17 2011 08:36 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2011 08:35 Cyber_Cheese wrote:On November 17 2011 08:32 sinani206 wrote:On November 17 2011 08:22 Drazerk wrote:On November 17 2011 08:18 sinani206 wrote:On November 16 2011 18:14 Drazerk wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On November 16 2011 17:33 HarbingerOfDoom wrote:Calling out lurkers? Sure thing! And then we have hyshes: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=282366&user=132738As mentioned above, there is also Coagulation. I may very well be missing some, but hyshes and risk stood out to me since I played with them in my previous game. If we want to include people with more posts that are just all useless...well then the list becomes much longer :-) Hyshes is still very new I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't post much on day one + Show Spoiler +On November 16 2011 17:31 sinani206 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2011 17:27 wherebugsgo wrote:Coag is also a pretty good player, so if he's scum, he's capable of lurking and surviving. For the same reason he doesn't make a good day 1 lynch because if he's not scum, then scum will want to shoot him. On November 16 2011 16:26 sinani206 wrote:On November 16 2011 13:16 wherebugsgo wrote:
to clarify again, each person go for whoever they think is scummiest. That doesn't mean all of us go for the same person. This is completely stupid because some people have more than one read at a time. Why focus when you can divide (your attention) and conquer? No. yes No yes no On November 17 2011 08:24 Cyber_Cheese wrote:On November 17 2011 08:18 sinani206 wrote:On November 16 2011 18:14 Drazerk wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On November 16 2011 17:33 HarbingerOfDoom wrote:Calling out lurkers? Sure thing! And then we have hyshes: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=282366&user=132738As mentioned above, there is also Coagulation. I may very well be missing some, but hyshes and risk stood out to me since I played with them in my previous game. If we want to include people with more posts that are just all useless...well then the list becomes much longer :-) Hyshes is still very new I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't post much on day one + Show Spoiler +On November 16 2011 17:31 sinani206 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2011 17:27 wherebugsgo wrote:Coag is also a pretty good player, so if he's scum, he's capable of lurking and surviving. For the same reason he doesn't make a good day 1 lynch because if he's not scum, then scum will want to shoot him. On November 16 2011 16:26 sinani206 wrote:On November 16 2011 13:16 wherebugsgo wrote:
to clarify again, each person go for whoever they think is scummiest. That doesn't mean all of us go for the same person. This is completely stupid because some people have more than one read at a time. Why focus when you can divide (your attention) and conquer? No. yes No yes No. Why are you discussing it still, and frankly, how are you this useless? yes Instead of repeatedly refreshing the page and making us correct you, go back, form some opinions, and tell us how you came to them. Or just kill him so he stops being distracting
I would also like to see why he has mentioned twice that he will not be lynched. Either way, he is certainly not trying to help the town given his multitude of useless one liners and lack of actually thought out posts.
##Vote Drazerk
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On November 18 2011 02:57 Cyber_Cheese wrote:EBWOP Show nested quote +On November 18 2011 02:39 Drazerk wrote:On November 18 2011 02:38 Cyber_Cheese wrote:On November 18 2011 02:01 Drazerk wrote:On November 18 2011 01:58 Nisani201 wrote:
I just read through Drazerk's filter. He has been jumping on bandwagons and supporting bad lynches this whole game.
Seriously, why aren't more people voting for him?
##Vote: Drazerk Probably because I am not scum and will never be lynched even if they try So, if I'm not mistaken, your claiming to be lynchproof? If you aren't, you are lying and should be lynched for it. If you are, then lynching you will confirm it. Unless I'm missing something here ##Vote: Drazerk Your missing something but it's ok I must be, because the vote didn't update in the OP
Let's test this
##vote: Drazerk
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I think the zbot is broken, WBG's votes didn't go through either
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##unvote: coagulation
##unvote: drazerk
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##unvote: coagulation
##unvote: drazerk
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it seems the bot is simply not working atm, maybe it went offline or something. nothing to worry about imo.
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Well thats enough derping around, refreshing the page and wishing someone would post something. Anyone doing the same, who isn't currently voting on Chaoser, what is your stance on him and why?
Similarly, anyone who's played with Prplhz/Sinani before and isn't voting them, what is your take on their current alignments? They both seem to do the same thing every game, and they are doing it
We have currently killed someone for lurking. Personally I don't want a Sinani lynch to happen right now, but it's better than none. I feel like Chaosers flip will provide us with more information and a much higher chance of hitting scum than Prplhz flipping, based off both reputations and actions so far in game.
Those are the three candidates I'm currently willing to consider, outside of making Drazerk prove his claim. As I've said before, more than three lynches is something I don't want to risk.
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I'm not voting Chaoser because the main case on him (Palmar's) doesn't have enough evidence.
I'm not voting Sinani or prplhz because I think we have pretty good non-lurker suspects that can die. I prefer lynching scum over lurkers.
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On November 18 2011 04:16 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
Well thats enough derping around, refreshing the page and wishing someone would post something. Anyone doing the same, who isn't currently voting on Chaoser, what is your stance on him and why?
Similarly, anyone who's played with Prplhz/Sinani before and isn't voting them, what is your take on their current alignments? They both seem to do the same thing every game, and they are doing it
We have currently killed someone for lurking. Personally I don't want a Sinani lynch to happen right now, but it's better than none. I feel like Chaosers flip will provide us with more information and a much higher chance of hitting scum than Prplhz flipping, based off both reputations and actions so far in game.
Those are the three candidates I'm currently willing to consider, outside of making Drazerk prove his claim. As I've said before, more than three lynches is something I don't want to risk.
At the moment I am pretty unsure about Chaoser. Although he did throw his votes around a bit earlier on, he isn't reacting to this pressure like I would imagine a scum chaoser would. So my read on him is null at best.
I think Sinani is a very good lynch option today. you need not go further than his filter. He is being dissmissive, diffucult, not truly answering questions, and providing shit reasoning for voting people. However, if we are uncomfortable with a sinani lynch today, One thing Chaoser did do was bring my attention to Hiroruby. In addition to the case chaoser made against him (which he hasn't responded to) I would like to point out that at the beginning of the game he made 2 very long posts detailing policy, answering questions, ect. but when it came time to actually give opinions and contribute his posting fell quite short. I think he is at least a better lynch than prplhz, so with that:
##Unvote: prplhz
##Vote: Hiroruby
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On November 18 2011 04:29 GreYMisT wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2011 04:16 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
Well thats enough derping around, refreshing the page and wishing someone would post something. Anyone doing the same, who isn't currently voting on Chaoser, what is your stance on him and why?
Similarly, anyone who's played with Prplhz/Sinani before and isn't voting them, what is your take on their current alignments? They both seem to do the same thing every game, and they are doing it
We have currently killed someone for lurking. Personally I don't want a Sinani lynch to happen right now, but it's better than none. I feel like Chaosers flip will provide us with more information and a much higher chance of hitting scum than Prplhz flipping, based off both reputations and actions so far in game.
Those are the three candidates I'm currently willing to consider, outside of making Drazerk prove his claim. As I've said before, more than three lynches is something I don't want to risk. At the moment I am pretty unsure about Chaoser. Although he did throw his votes around a bit earlier on, he isn't reacting to this pressure like I would imagine a scum chaoser would. So my read on him is null at best. I think Sinani is a very good lynch option today. you need not go further than his filter. He is being dissmissive, diffucult, not truly answering questions, and providing shit reasoning for voting people. However, if we are uncomfortable with a sinani lynch today, One thing Chaoser did do was bring my attention to Hiroruby. In addition to the case chaoser made against him (which he hasn't responded to) I would like to point out that at the beginning of the game he made 2 very long posts detailing policy, answering questions, ect. but when it came time to actually give opinions and contribute his posting fell quite short. I think he is at least a better lynch than prplhz, so with that: ##Unvote: prplhz
##Vote: Hiroruby
If we discount the setup discussion posts, that leaves the last three, and he's just another lurker based on those.
his filter is here http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=282366&user=121997
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On November 18 2011 04:36 Cyber_Cheese wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2011 04:29 GreYMisT wrote:On November 18 2011 04:16 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
Well thats enough derping around, refreshing the page and wishing someone would post something. Anyone doing the same, who isn't currently voting on Chaoser, what is your stance on him and why?
Similarly, anyone who's played with Prplhz/Sinani before and isn't voting them, what is your take on their current alignments? They both seem to do the same thing every game, and they are doing it
We have currently killed someone for lurking. Personally I don't want a Sinani lynch to happen right now, but it's better than none. I feel like Chaosers flip will provide us with more information and a much higher chance of hitting scum than Prplhz flipping, based off both reputations and actions so far in game.
Those are the three candidates I'm currently willing to consider, outside of making Drazerk prove his claim. As I've said before, more than three lynches is something I don't want to risk. At the moment I am pretty unsure about Chaoser. Although he did throw his votes around a bit earlier on, he isn't reacting to this pressure like I would imagine a scum chaoser would. So my read on him is null at best. I think Sinani is a very good lynch option today. you need not go further than his filter. He is being dissmissive, diffucult, not truly answering questions, and providing shit reasoning for voting people. However, if we are uncomfortable with a sinani lynch today, One thing Chaoser did do was bring my attention to Hiroruby. In addition to the case chaoser made against him (which he hasn't responded to) I would like to point out that at the beginning of the game he made 2 very long posts detailing policy, answering questions, ect. but when it came time to actually give opinions and contribute his posting fell quite short. I think he is at least a better lynch than prplhz, so with that: ##Unvote: prplhz
##Vote: Hiroruby If we discount the setup discussion posts, that leaves the last three, and he's just another lurker based on those. his filter is here http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=282366&user=121997
What I'm saying is that making those early posts is very easy to do as mafia, and can get you some effortless town cred. then he dissapeared once we started discussing stuff. This is why he is different from the other lurkers.
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