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Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
January 08 2013 00:01 GMT
#821
Night 2

Evil people, them Nihilists. They even own ferrets.


Spaghetticus, the Cop, has gotten his Johnson cut off!
Role PM: + Show Spoiler +
You're a Cop! As a great Ontologist, you know all the intricacies of any philisophy out there. Each night, you can discuss philosophy with a person of your choosing. During this discourse, you will find out if they think Substantialistic or Nihilistic. You win when all Nihilists have been eradicated.



TeMiL has not voted. We will try to look for a replacement. If you're interested in joining, PM thrawn or iamperfection, who will handle the search, since I will be unavailable tomorrow (today you can still pm me, too)

It is now Night 2. 24 hours time to submit your nightactions!
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
January 08 2013 00:01 GMT
#822
FUCK...
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
January 08 2013 00:03 GMT
#823
im a bit speechless right now..
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
January 08 2013 00:03 GMT
#824
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
January 08 2013 00:04 GMT
#825


btw, spellcheck OP
Grubby's #1 Fan
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
January 08 2013 00:04 GMT
#826
GG Spag...

im sure we will discuss this in detail once the game is over.
Rad
Profile Joined May 2010
United States935 Posts
January 08 2013 00:04 GMT
#827
Sylencia
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1057 Posts
January 08 2013 00:04 GMT
#828
Our chances of winning just dropped ten fold. I can see whats happening tonight and by the end of it we might lose our jk as well.
OmniEulogy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada6592 Posts
January 08 2013 00:04 GMT
#829
well.... Zare's cleared... fuck
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Spaghetticus
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia451 Posts
January 08 2013 00:05 GMT
#830
GG guys. I don't think this lynch was uncalled for, so no hard feelings from me. I will try once more to patch up my gameplay for next time, so this lesson does not go unlearned.

Thank you Dandel Ion for hosting the game, Your efforts went unsung during the game as it would just be additional fluff, but I really appreciate your efforts.

Go town!
OmniEulogy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada6592 Posts
January 08 2013 00:06 GMT
#831
gg spag
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Sylencia
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1057 Posts
January 08 2013 00:06 GMT
#832
I will post later once net is back up but my phone is getting too hot
OmniEulogy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada6592 Posts
January 08 2013 00:08 GMT
#833
scum TeMiL and Jampi? I'm having a hard time finding a scum read on Syl. Jampi for sure after this though?
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zarepath
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1626 Posts
January 08 2013 00:09 GMT
#834
Crap. Thought that was such a great case, too. Gg, sorry for killing you
"Your efforts you put in will never betray you." - Flash | "If I'm not good enough, I don't wanna win." - Naniwa
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
January 08 2013 00:10 GMT
#835
Let us be reminded of Spag last will

On January 08 2013 07:14 Spaghetticus wrote:
Okay bandwagon has started, and I'm dead certain this will be a killing blow. Though if you could be convinced by this post to not lynch me, that would put town in much better stead, I understand it comes from the lips of a strong suspect and it will only look like WIFOM until after my death.

Town still has a chance with my death, but you are going to have to have to heed my words, and take the risks, as now town is truly behind.

I am cop. I checked Zarepath, and he was clean. My posturing around his lynch was just that. I did not want to have to explain why I was not voting for this incredibly scummy town.

Mocsta and Sylencia \were/ clean. That Mocsta tried to switch wagon on to me as soon as someone else decided it was a good idea makes me wonder. Really at this point I think the best play is to admit that if he’s scum, he’s simply a better player and let him win. If he is not scum then all the suspicion is damaging town, and we sort of need to stick to our scummier players. You will not catch Mocsta if he is scum, take the risk and assume he’s town, YOU NEED TO TAKE RISKS.

Edit before post: the fact that Mocsta has not realised that taking votes off of Jampi and putting them on me means he’s not trying too hard to change the vote from Jamp. Either he’s incredibly confident he can finish me tomorrow, he wants me around to soak up an NK so his continued existence is not so conspicuous, or he is town with a fairly even read between me and Jamp. I want to believe the third option for the reasons above (any attempt to land a Mocstawhale will be unsuccesful, and letting the better man win if he’s scum).

That leaves four out of seven players confirmed town (including myself). After this lynch, so long as I don’t die and I can convince you, at worst it will be four confirmed town vs two scum, which is an easy win.


- Spag
- Zarepath
- Mocsta
- Sylencia

- OmniEulogy
- TeMiL
- JampiDampi



On top of this, Omni waiting for backup before continuing further gives a town read. If he were scum he’d know he could lead the charge on me without repercussion, and probably seal my fate. This means Jamp and TiMeL as scum team, which actually makes a lot of sense considering how much of our hunting has stuck. The two lurkiest players are scum letting us mob ourselves to death. This still puts Omni in third most scummy position, but killing the other two before him is important. I'll add that because I am cop, this narrows down the possible starting scenarios to either:-

one goon + one roleblocker vs Jailkeeper and five VT

or

two goons vs one cop and six VT

In the latter scenario Omni is lying, so if a JK claims we can rule out the possibility of him lying and jail the remaining person, having ruled out the biggest negative read on Omni. You need to do serious endgame turn math before playing this hand though, as you don't want to die before setting the gambit in motion. This game is close, so your actions will be vital. Hope that Syl and Mocsta are town and stop playing around the possibility of them being scum, otherwise town stand zero chance.

Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
January 08 2013 00:12 GMT
#836
Im gonna take a big break form the game and go back to work.

Im pissed off at myself for letting this happen; and need a fresh mind.

Iw oudl appreciate if someone else can lead the discussions tonight (other than ask who the JK is, assuming Omni is not lying)

I wonder when we know if TeMiL is being replaced too?
zarepath
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1626 Posts
January 08 2013 00:12 GMT
#837
Biggest issue now is a replaced temil
"Your efforts you put in will never betray you." - Flash | "If I'm not good enough, I don't wanna win." - Naniwa
OmniEulogy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada6592 Posts
January 08 2013 00:15 GMT
#838
I agree. Who ever replaces him is going to have 0 reads towards what he is.
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OmniEulogy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada6592 Posts
January 08 2013 00:23 GMT
#839
well... I think we should lynch Jampi tomorrow for sure. What we need to do tonight if figure out who is most likely to be targeted. The fact that I was RB'd means we have a JK. Do we want him to try to save or block? Personally I think trying to block the killer has a better chance than trying to save somebody. I guess we've got 24 hours. This lynch hasn't really changed my town reads on people. I believe Jampi and who ever TeMiL is replaced by will be scum.
LiquidDota Staff
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
January 08 2013 00:50 GMT
#840
Oatsmaster Replaces Temil effective right.................Now
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
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