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On January 31 2012 11:29 corpuscle wrote:Show nested quote +On January 31 2012 11:26 turdburgler wrote:
how can you say it didnt affect things. for all we know if tyler had played stephano would never of made the finals He was already 0-2 against CatZ, who was basically guaranteed to 2-0 Rotterdam (no offense, Rotti!). He would then have to play Rotterdam in PvP, which is Rotterdam's best matchup and coinflippy as hell, and then Stephano, who nobody would be surprised to see 2-0 Tyler. Losing to CatZ essentially knocked him out of the group (and tournament) barring a miracle.
well then why bother playing the tourney at all, why dont we just write cheques to stephano every time he plays in a league!
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On January 31 2012 11:01 PikaXchU wrote:
Why does this thread even exist?
It shouldn't.
This isn't a topic that has a discussion to go along with it
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On January 31 2012 11:35 Mr Showtime wrote:It shouldn't. This isn't a topic that has a discussion to go along with it
well, we can all speculate about what tyler's reasonings were since none of us know anything. how can that not foster a decent discussion? /sarcasm
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What the fuck is wrong with you people.
Stephano got punished, he's okay with it, we should be done with this shit. Why do we need to bring up Tyler now?
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WO's are fairly common in early rounds of tournaments. White-Ra and other members of the community have had them; the real question is how inconvenient they were to the tournament. Few people called White-Ra out because it hardly impacted the tournaments. The same is true of the Tyler incident. The problem is the finals are, and should be, the culmination of hype and drama in a tourney. When you quit, you take something away from the tournament that you don't when you leave in the early stages.
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Medical reasons unrelated to depression. Apologies to ONOG for not providing any explanation of my absence. That kind of behavior is extremely unprofessional and I regret it. I'll make sure it's the last time.
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if stephano's FF is worth a thread ?
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On January 31 2012 11:35 rotegirte wrote:Show nested quote +On January 31 2012 11:31 kochujang wrote:On January 31 2012 10:56 memcpy wrote:On January 31 2012 10:49 nGBeast wrote:On January 31 2012 10:48 NoCatsCradle wrote:
Pretty unprofessional behavior by Tyler.
I wonder if this incident will prevent tournament organizers from inviting him in the future. Give me a fucking break, all you people who were bitching in the other thread about Tyler FF is not the same as Stephano FF a finals match. Community starting unneeded drama as always. At what point exactly does it become ok to forfeit? Group play, ro16, ro8, ro4, finals? It is never ok to forfeit. Just like it is not ok to miss a doctors appointment or exams. The consequences may vary depending on the level of importance. Of course I can stop writing in the middle of an exam and walk out of the door. And I will get exactly the appropriate points for the correct solutions I have filled in up to that point. And I won't be deducted any points for walking out 1 answer short.
But what about all the TAs who were eagerly anticipating grading your exam? Who are you to deprive them of that privilege?
Their self-righteous indignation is enough justification for the deduction of points and your banishment from all future exams.
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Liquid tyler has spoken, can this be closed? He doesn't deserve any of this bullshit.
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I think its only fair that Stephano and Liquid`Tyler share 4th place.
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On January 31 2012 11:37 DamageControL wrote:
WO's are fairly common in early rounds of tournaments. White-Ra and other members of the community have had them; the real question is how inconvenient they were to the tournament. Few people called White-Ra out because it hardly impacted the tournaments. The same is true of the Tyler incident. The problem is the finals are, and should be, the culmination of hype and drama in a tourney. When you quit, you take something away from the tournament that you don't when you leave in the early stages.
How do you not. Accepting an invitation to a tournament means that it is likely someone else did not receive an invite. While clearly FFing in the finals has more impact on the tournament, I don't think any pro-gamer should forfeit in any position. It is an honor to be invited to these tournaments and players should treat it as such (barring any emergency situations)
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Thanks Tyler for clarifying. Can we close the thread? It's gotten completely off topic...
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On January 31 2012 11:37 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
Medical reasons unrelated to depression. Apologies to ONOG for not providing any explanation of my absence. That kind of behavior is extremely unprofessional and I regret it. I'll make sure it's the last time.
well there it is
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On January 31 2012 11:36 1Eris1 wrote:
What the fuck is wrong with you people.
Stephano got punished, he's okay with it, we should be done with this shit. Why do we need to bring up Tyler now?
guy asks a simple question, its the replies that are being dickish and bitchy over the fact that anyone dares question tyler. tyler has explained himself, threads over, but theres no reason to be hostile to a guy who asked.
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On January 31 2012 11:37 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
Medical reasons unrelated to depression. Apologies to ONOG for not providing any explanation of my absence. That kind of behavior is extremely unprofessional and I regret it. I'll make sure it's the last time.
Boom, can this thread be closed now?
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On January 31 2012 11:31 Myles wrote:Show nested quote +On January 31 2012 11:28 FauvFauv wrote:
i for one would like to know why tyler didn't play out his matches
for me personally, it's on the same level of what stephano did Really? Forfeiting in the first round is the same level as forfeiting in the finals when you already delayed the tournament by playing in different one?
forfeit = forfeit
the level of forfeiture makes no difference to me, particularly because we're talking about it with regard to professionalism
to me, 100% professionalism = professionalism, whereas 5%, 50%, even 95% professionalism = non-professionalism
edit: tyler's explanation makes this invalid, didnt see his post when i made this one
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On January 31 2012 11:35 rotegirte wrote:Show nested quote +On January 31 2012 11:31 kochujang wrote:On January 31 2012 10:56 memcpy wrote:On January 31 2012 10:49 nGBeast wrote:On January 31 2012 10:48 NoCatsCradle wrote:
Pretty unprofessional behavior by Tyler.
I wonder if this incident will prevent tournament organizers from inviting him in the future. Give me a fucking break, all you people who were bitching in the other thread about Tyler FF is not the same as Stephano FF a finals match. Community starting unneeded drama as always. At what point exactly does it become ok to forfeit? Group play, ro16, ro8, ro4, finals? It is never ok to forfeit. Just like it is not ok to miss a doctors appointment or exams. The consequences may vary depending on the level of importance. Of course I can stop writing in the middle of an exam and walk out of the door. And I will get exactly the appropriate points for the correct solutions I have filled in up to that point. And I won't be deducted any points for walking out 1 answer short.
Um... you know, your analogy can be interpreted in many different ways, like Idra would gg/walk out prematurely. I think you have misunderstood what I was trying to tell. Miss exams-> flunk, miss doctors appointment->make a new one.
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On January 31 2012 11:41 FauvFauv wrote:Show nested quote +On January 31 2012 11:31 Myles wrote:On January 31 2012 11:28 FauvFauv wrote:
i for one would like to know why tyler didn't play out his matches
for me personally, it's on the same level of what stephano did Really? Forfeiting in the first round is the same level as forfeiting in the finals when you already delayed the tournament by playing in different one? forfeit = forfeit the level of forfeiture makes no difference to me, particularly because we're talking about it with regard to professionalism to me, 100% professionalism = professionalism, whereas 5%, 50%, even 95% professionalism = non-professionalism
We have had a lot of forfeits in KOTH tournaments. Want to call them out on it?
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On January 31 2012 11:39 Eventine wrote:Show nested quote +On January 31 2012 11:37 DamageControL wrote:
WO's are fairly common in early rounds of tournaments. White-Ra and other members of the community have had them; the real question is how inconvenient they were to the tournament. Few people called White-Ra out because it hardly impacted the tournaments. The same is true of the Tyler incident. The problem is the finals are, and should be, the culmination of hype and drama in a tourney. When you quit, you take something away from the tournament that you don't when you leave in the early stages.
How do you not. Accepting an invitation to a tournament means that it is likely someone else did not receive an invite. While clearly FFing in the finals has more impact on the tournament, I don't think any pro-gamer should forfeit in any position. It is an honor to be invited to these tournaments and players should treat it as such.
You take something away, I agree. My point was that you don't take away as much.
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On January 31 2012 11:37 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
Medical reasons unrelated to depression. Apologies to ONOG for not providing any explanation of my absence. That kind of behavior is extremely unprofessional and I regret it. I'll make sure it's the last time.
Thanks for letting us know Tyler. That's pretty great that you posted to answer that question.
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Thx Tyler for letting us know brotoss
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