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On September 14 2010 21:47 iCCup.Raelcun wrote:
I wish people would stop posting a series of useless numbers without context and imply that they are useful statistics. How many of those are mirror matchups, which matchups were more prevalent. What are the win rates on the matchups. Even then the statistics would not be useful out of such a small sample size -.- but at least there would be context.
Good point! It would actually be interesting to find out about the actual matchups so I did this summary:
TvP: 11 matches (8 terran wins and 3 protoss wins)
TvZ: 7 matches (5 terrans wins and 2 zerg wins)
PvZ: 7 matches (4 protoss wins and 3 zerg wins)
PvP: 4
TvT: 1
ZvZ: 1
Winning by default: 1
Not stating anything about balance, just providing the numbers.
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On September 14 2010 19:40 zimms wrote:Show nested quote +On September 14 2010 19:38 figq wrote:
Ensnare's t-shirt - says "teamliquid" on the side :D omg, how come? I don't know. It's in the free VOD @ 3:30-4:00 too, if someone wants to see it again.
There were other weird things about people wearing t-shirts of teams they are not known to be from. DAVIT weared the same t-shirt as Tester, Cool and Clide (who are all from Team SCV Life), and also Artosis wondered whether one guy was recruited by NEX on the spot. Maybe the teams have provided the organizers with t-shirts and/or stickers, which sometimes appear on the wrong guy?
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oGs players has Teamliquid logo on t-shirt and Teamliquid players had oGs logo on t-shirt... Pretty old news =P
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TLO's friday match has been postponed until next week, time to rearrange my Friday day off 
@gomtvnet - Breaking news!!! TLO's got chicken pox and his match will be postponed to the next week. Schedule will be updated soon.
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On September 14 2010 22:47 Welmu wrote:
oGs players has Teamliquid logo on t-shirt and Teamliquid players had oGs logo on t-shirt... Pretty old news =P Sorry, I didn't know. Was it clarified why?
On September 14 2010 22:54 Full.tilt wrote:TLO's friday match has been postponed until next week, time to rearrange my Friday day off @gomtvnet - Breaking news!!! TLO's got chicken pox and his match will be postponed to the next week. Schedule will be updated soon. Best news this week! Now Dario will have time to recover in peace.
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they are in partnership or smthing... They also practise in same place =)
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On September 14 2010 22:55 Welmu wrote:
they are in partnership or smthing... They also practise in same place =) Ah, of course. Thanks. + Show Spoiler +It will be nice (and quite possible) to see Ensnare in the finals or semi-finals, showing the teamliquid logo on the screen throughout the whole match - and those are going to be longer, with more pauses.
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The ro64 has been full of good players and surprising upsets. Can't imagine how exciting the rest of the tourney will be. Kinda makes me want to get really good and move to Korea.
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Thought I'd do some stats for my first post ever here ;-)
Enjoy if you like this sort of thing!
FIND IT HERE!
These are the stats I put in 4 tables from the Ro64 and on:
- How are the races represented in each round
- How are the major teams represented in each round (only teams that had 4 or more players represented in the Ro64 are counted, rest is under "other") and their win/loss rate of players in rounds
- Representation of different matchups through rounds and totals of different matchups over whole Ro64
- Win/loss ratio and percentages for the mixed matchups (the A over B is a little awkward, but I couldn't think of a better representation, sorry :-) ) and total A over B matchups won over the entire Ro64
If you see any anomalies or errors, please let me know. I will try to update these tables after later rounds asap. Keep in mind that some of the fields now show errors or incorrect data (some total fields) because not all data is filled yet from future rounds.
Yes... I like stats! And... spreadsheets ;-)
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Hey when does this start tommorow? CEST time??
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On September 14 2010 23:10 2sw33t wrote:Thought I'd do some stats for my first post ever here ;-) Enjoy if you like this sort of thing! FIND IT HERE!These are the stats I put in 4 tables from the Ro64 and on: - How are the races represented in each round - How are the major teams represented in each round (only teams that had 4 or more players represented in the Ro64 are counted, rest is under "other") and their win/loss rate of players in rounds - Representation of different matchups through rounds and totals of different matchups over whole Ro64 - Win/loss ratio and percentages for the mixed matchups (the A over B is a little awkward, but I couldn't think of a better representation, sorry :-) ) and total A over B matchups won over the entire Ro64 If you see any anomalies or errors, please let me know. I will try to update these tables after later rounds asap. Keep in mind that some of the fields now show errors or incorrect data (some total fields) because not all data is filled yet from future rounds. Yes... I like stats! And... spreadsheets ;-)
Really nice tables! =)... and nice 1st post too 
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Thanks :-)
I added another "B-part" to the last table showing the total amount of wins per race, per round, not counting mirrormatches and also the % of total matches won in that round over matchups that featured that race (per race).
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That Ensnare match was brutal...
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Recommended games, anyone?
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On September 14 2010 18:10 GTR wrote:
Excited to see how Myth will go considering he was a pretty cool Human in WC3.
Hopefully not the epitome of abusive Terrans.
It's funny reading that post right before seeing the results 
Is Zenith the first Zerg that beat a Terran and advanced so far?
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On September 14 2010 23:40 2sw33t wrote:
Thanks :-)
I added another "B-part" to the last table showing the total amount of wins per race, per round, not counting mirrormatches and also the % of total matches won in that round over matchups that featured that race (per race).
It would be a lot more work, but also a lot more relevant if you actually did matchup results.
So if a TvZ is won by the T, that's recorded in your table as 1, but the result could be 2-0 or 2-1.
The final result says something, but it doesn't say everything.
So basically, add the total games won per racial matchup, rather than the BO3 results, and have those stats.
So if a game ends T 2 - 1 P, then that's 2 for T and 1 for P, rather than 1 for T and 0 for P.
(This would want to be in a separate table to the BO3 results).
Get to work boy!
(Also thanks for the work).
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On September 14 2010 21:47 iCCup.Raelcun wrote:Show nested quote +On September 14 2010 21:39 junkacc wrote:On September 14 2010 21:33 StarPolice wrote:
In the last 32
11 out of 27 protoss
6 out of 16 zerg
15 out of 21 terran
Balanced! I wish people would stop posting a series of useless numbers without context and imply that they are useful statistics. How many of those are mirror matchups, which matchups were more prevalent. What are the win rates on the matchups. Even then the statistics would not be useful out of such a small sample size -.- but at least there would be context.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=152533
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=152595
this is the context.
Why post nonsense just to try to come off neutral?
The imbalance is apparent even without GSL the only reason people are bringing it up in GSL threads is because of all the claims that korean zergs are doign better.
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On September 15 2010 00:15 gogogadgetflow wrote:
Recommended games, anyone?
The final match with HongUn vs Cezanne is very entertaining, I feel . You should watch all the games in that match.
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On September 15 2010 01:05 Kinky wrote:Show nested quote +On September 14 2010 18:10 GTR wrote:
Excited to see how Myth will go considering he was a pretty cool Human in WC3.
Hopefully not the epitome of abusive Terrans. It's funny reading that post right before seeing the results Is Zenith the first Zerg that beat a Terran and advanced so far?
Idra beat a Terran during the first day.
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