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CursOr
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States6335 Posts
March 11 2012 00:23 GMT
#681
Why always with the caster bashing? No one cares about how smart you are and you know more than the casters. Good for you. Tell us something more enlightening or stfu.
CJ forever (-_-(-_-(-_-(-_-)-_-)-_-)-_-)
the`postman
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1643 Posts
March 11 2012 00:23 GMT
#682
On March 11 2012 09:22 Seraphone wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2012 09:18 the`postman wrote:
On March 11 2012 09:15 Seraphone wrote:
On March 11 2012 09:12 the`postman wrote:
And this is an example of what Stephano could have easily done in game one.


No he couldn't. The chokes are much smaller on Daybreak and White Ra had a lot more stuff.

Seriously? Stephano wiped out White-Ra's entire army at the third, chokes didn't matter, all he had to do was flood roaches and he won.


Wrong. Stephano didn't have plus one on his roaches, where as White Ra had plus one, in game 2 White Ra has no ups and Stephano had plus one. White Ra had more stuff because he didn't do a shitty opening, he had more gates too in Game 1. Daybreak is much better to forcefield and create chokes. The reinforce distance is also way longer on Daybreak.

Lots of small differences explain it. Stephano's decision in game 1 was a good one. He killed the third and got a lead, why keep pushing and risk it?

Because that's the only way to play PvZ? You never want to force the game into the mothership stage.
justinpal
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3810 Posts
March 11 2012 00:24 GMT
#683
DoA prophesying the past.
Never make a hydralisk.
R3m3mb3rM3
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany954 Posts
March 11 2012 00:24 GMT
#684
On March 11 2012 09:22 Seraphone wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2012 09:18 the`postman wrote:
On March 11 2012 09:15 Seraphone wrote:
On March 11 2012 09:12 the`postman wrote:
And this is an example of what Stephano could have easily done in game one.


No he couldn't. The chokes are much smaller on Daybreak and White Ra had a lot more stuff.

Seriously? Stephano wiped out White-Ra's entire army at the third, chokes didn't matter, all he had to do was flood roaches and he won.


Wrong. Stephano didn't have plus one on his roaches, where as White Ra had plus one, in game 2 White Ra has no ups and Stephano had plus one. White Ra had more stuff because he didn't do a shitty opening, he had more gates too in Game 1. Daybreak is much better to forcefield and create chokes. The reinforce distance is also way longer on Daybreak.

Lots of small differences explain it. Stephano's decision in game 1 was a good one. He killed the third and got a lead, why keep pushing and risk it?


stephanos opening in game 1 was MUCH worse..... 4 zealots and a probe for NOTHING. Stephano did 93 drones and meanwhile killed whiteras third. leavin 2 sentrys and about 6 stalkers alive. imagine those 20+ probes being roaches + zerglings...........
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
March 11 2012 00:24 GMT
#685
On March 11 2012 09:22 TehTemplar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2012 09:21 TehTemplar wrote:
WhiteRa spawning at 9
Stephano spawning at 12
Destructible rocks are very good apparently.

Gateway pressure from low ground for whitera again.
Pool Hatch again from Stephano ^^
Nexus for whitera earlier :o

Stephano gets a full scout on WhiteRa, sees cannons.
Zealot pressure is not too successful.
Moderatorshe/her
TL+ Member
Derez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Netherlands6068 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-11 00:26:06
March 11 2012 00:25 GMT
#686
This gateway into nexus build doesn't seem very effective. It just screws up your follow-up so much.
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
March 11 2012 00:25 GMT
#687
holy shit 25k viewers for a showmatch.. and that with doa and cats..
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
Seraphone
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom1219 Posts
March 11 2012 00:25 GMT
#688
On March 11 2012 09:23 the`postman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2012 09:22 Seraphone wrote:
On March 11 2012 09:18 the`postman wrote:
On March 11 2012 09:15 Seraphone wrote:
On March 11 2012 09:12 the`postman wrote:
And this is an example of what Stephano could have easily done in game one.


No he couldn't. The chokes are much smaller on Daybreak and White Ra had a lot more stuff.

Seriously? Stephano wiped out White-Ra's entire army at the third, chokes didn't matter, all he had to do was flood roaches and he won.


Wrong. Stephano didn't have plus one on his roaches, where as White Ra had plus one, in game 2 White Ra has no ups and Stephano had plus one. White Ra had more stuff because he didn't do a shitty opening, he had more gates too in Game 1. Daybreak is much better to forcefield and create chokes. The reinforce distance is also way longer on Daybreak.

Lots of small differences explain it. Stephano's decision in game 1 was a good one. He killed the third and got a lead, why keep pushing and risk it?

Because that's the only way to play PvZ? You never want to force the game into the mothership stage.


But Stephano does do this, because he wins all the time on hive tech vs Protoss. He just made a mistake in this game and lost all his broods. It's completely normal for Stephano to play mass infestor/brood vs Protoss.

I think DRG would have retreated after he killed the third too, but DRG would have made 30 Mutas instead of hive tech.

Mvp, Nestea, Leenock, MC, Oz, Jjakji!
aristarchus
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States652 Posts
March 11 2012 00:25 GMT
#689
On March 11 2012 09:24 justinpal wrote:
DoA prophesying the past.

Yeah, that was very weird.... Why does IPL always have their audio and video out of sync?
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-11 00:26:55
March 11 2012 00:26 GMT
#690
On March 11 2012 09:24 TehTemplar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2012 09:22 TehTemplar wrote:
On March 11 2012 09:21 TehTemplar wrote:
WhiteRa spawning at 9
Stephano spawning at 12
Destructible rocks are very good apparently.

Gateway pressure from low ground for whitera again.
Pool Hatch again from Stephano ^^
Nexus for whitera earlier :o

Stephano gets a full scout on WhiteRa, sees cannons.
Zealot pressure is not too successful.

6 gate robo from WhiteRa, Roach and Ling Speed for Stephano, still trying to kill the rocks ^^
Fast third from WhiteRa.
Moderatorshe/her
TL+ Member
Farone
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands1219 Posts
March 11 2012 00:26 GMT
#691
deja vu from game 1 and 2
MC, Stephano, Ret, Jjakji, Grubby, Life, HerO, Scarlett, TaeJa
Seraphone
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom1219 Posts
March 11 2012 00:27 GMT
#692
Insane risky build from White Ra. No way can you expand on that few units in PvZ.
Mvp, Nestea, Leenock, MC, Oz, Jjakji!
Logros
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands9913 Posts
March 11 2012 00:27 GMT
#693
What was White-ra doing there...
Olinim
Profile Joined March 2011
4044 Posts
March 11 2012 00:27 GMT
#694
did whitera really just try to take a third vs stephano with just zealot sentry?
the`postman
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1643 Posts
March 11 2012 00:27 GMT
#695
White Ra floating 800 minerals, this is silly, Stephano is just in a higher class of players.
R3m3mb3rM3
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany954 Posts
March 11 2012 00:27 GMT
#696
wow those games are so close.......... -__- i want stephano to throw another game
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15725 Posts
March 11 2012 00:27 GMT
#697
Time to try something else. Stephano knows exactly how to kill that 3rd base timing.
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
March 11 2012 00:27 GMT
#698
On March 11 2012 09:26 TehTemplar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2012 09:24 TehTemplar wrote:
On March 11 2012 09:22 TehTemplar wrote:
On March 11 2012 09:21 TehTemplar wrote:
WhiteRa spawning at 9
Stephano spawning at 12
Destructible rocks are very good apparently.

Gateway pressure from low ground for whitera again.
Pool Hatch again from Stephano ^^
Nexus for whitera earlier :o

Stephano gets a full scout on WhiteRa, sees cannons.
Zealot pressure is not too successful.

6 gate robo from WhiteRa, Roach and Ling Speed for Stephano, still trying to kill the rocks ^^
Fast third from WhiteRa.

DEJA VU!
Sentries falling to roaches, zealots getting killed, Stephano taking a 4th base.
WhiteRa GG's
Stephano 2-1 WhiteRa
Moderatorshe/her
TL+ Member
DifuntO
Profile Joined November 2011
Greece2376 Posts
March 11 2012 00:28 GMT
#699
same mistake
All I do is Stim.
Demonaz
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom1219 Posts
March 11 2012 00:28 GMT
#700
Protoss have got to stop trying to take that quick 3rd, its so pointless
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