Newbie Mini Mafia XXIX - Page 32

On October 27 2012 05:50 Rad wrote:
Inig, you not voting da0uds is super interesting to me.

I feel like your safest vote to stay alive is da0uds. If you want to stay alive, you vote him.

Alternatively though, you may know that and realize if you vote da0uds you look bad.

Here are some interesting things about Inig:

1. He claimed vanilla townie in the past.
2. He was forced to make a vote here and he did not choose da0uds. Instead he chose Dan. Dan currently has no chance of being lynched today unless something crazy comes up, so the vote on Dan was worthless.
3. If he is indeed vanilla townie, and he does not quite trust his current reads on da0ud and dan, it would be the best town play to a) keep himself alive if possible (change vote from imcasey) and b) let others who are more well informed make the more educated vote. Voting for da0uds when he's really uncertain is just taking a chance, and da0uds is currently in second place to be lynched today, so there's a lot of pressure on Inig's vote (if he's town).

I had a null read on him before but it was extremely confusing one way or the other. With this I'm leaning townie for Inig. Anyone want to jump in and help analyze his decision here? I'm open to whatever thoughts people have and please help me if I'm making a WIFOM argument here.

On October 27 2012 00:30 kushm4sta wrote:
Hi guys I read the thread (not super close towards the end though because I wanted to finish).

I think we should lynch Daoud.

He is posting just enough to be considered not a lurker. This level of activity is exactly what you want to lynch d1.

He catches Djo in the classic "scumslip," which does not always indicate scum, but that's not important.
"Why did you call me town djo?"
Then he says oh there might be a sk I guess my point is invalid. Makes no sense.
Bringing it up in the first place is a null tell, because it's an easy catch. But dropping it for such a stupid reason, that is scummy.

This is his most significant post so far:


So he gives off some town reads. Djo is 90% town... what the fuck. I don't see how you can think that after playing last game with him. Asking open questions makes him 90% town? ok

This is such a weird time to talk about lurkers, unless he is giving that as his reason for voting Ini, but Ini isn't even close to the biggest lurker.

So why is he voting for ini? 2 words: "Blending in." Sick case bro.

##vote da0ud

On October 27 2012 07:35 kushm4sta wrote:
@debears I did post quotes from daoud last game. The case isn't Omg great but there's not a lot to go off of and I think he is out best option.

Inig has contributed wayyy more. This is clear by sumply comparing their filters.

I don't get your point about the survival instinct. Scum have a stronger survival instinct than town. So unless daoud is scum, it seems like it makes more sense for him to vote daoud if he's scum.

On October 27 2012 07:43 Dandel Ion wrote:

No, it's optimal play for both alignments to stay alive themselves. Scum doesn't want to stay alive "more".

The only exception is if you actively save a claimed blue or a confirmed town. But I sure haven't seen such a thing so far.
And from what I gathered, there is no way Inig has a strong enough town read on daoud for it to make sense to get himself lynched over him.

The only way this is town behaviour is if he doesn't want to play anyways, but his posting lately didn't suggest a lack of motivation.

On October 26 2012 16:17 Inigmaticalism wrote:


Alright here we go.

1. I deny nothing about not scum hunting. I have only had time to read the thread, and have found town looking players: debears, rad, djo(tho im not sure anymore, more on that later). As I said, I will have time in a few days to do proper scum hunting. If you feel that is not a risk worth taking, so be it. Ill give my scum hunting/reading in my next post.
-And, if your going to pull out reasons to lynch me based not on what I have done, but what I havent done, then perhaps you should also look at Oats and Imcasey who havent scumhunted OR contributed (or at least tried) Or posted at all.

2. Ha I am anything BUT emotionally detached from this game. In fact, Ive been getting so emotional I dont think I can or should play mafia games and just go back to watching/reading them. All the logical things I want to say and rules I want to follow fly out the window, and its dumb. /snip

I actually almost rage-quit and threw out on-purpose made-up scumslips and such, so I just got to working on homework and stepped away. Im not sure why you said im emotionally detached./snip

On October 27 2012 05:30 Inigmaticalism wrote:
just read thread, popping in before I have my exam, and wont be back until its over, so like 2-3 hours right before lynch. I have no time now to defend myself from the cases against me, but plan to do so when I come back. Will probably be too late but thats how it is. I dont mind if I am lynched. It is bad for town cause Im town, but a lesser evil since Im no special role.
##unvote
I voted imcasey over oats(now kush) by pure chance. I picked one name because I only have 1 vote. It appears it was utterly useless, and now has weakened me. The reason I didnt straight out vote Dan is because 1 or more people voting right before deadline out of nowhere scares me, but presuring didnt work the way I did it. So now of course Ill
##Vote: Dandel Ion
Like I said I have no time to refute his case on me. I thought it was interesting how he reappeared right after I called him out, and then da0ud came out right after, but im not going to go off of times based on my own history. I also thought da0uds reasons to vote me were sad. If anyone can get any good scum-tell from him besides what was already said I would change and vote for him. See you in a few hours.
*And for goodness sake, if Djo is scum hes put himself in an extremely risky situation, but is also being super pro about it. I want to keep him alive and see what he can do with his energy for defending himself put to the use of more scum-hunting.
*and no more FOS this close to deadline. straight up vote.