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Djodref
France3332 Posts
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debears
United States2516 Posts
On October 27 2012 07:35 kushm4sta wrote: @debears I did post quotes from daoud last game. The case isn't Omg great but there's not a lot to go off of and I think he is out best option. Inig has contributed wayyy more. This is clear by sumply comparing their filters. I don't get your point about the survival instinct. Scum have a stronger survival instinct than town. So unless daoud is scum, it seems like it makes more sense for him to vote daoud if he's scum. Sure inig has posted more. But what about his content? Not much at all And my argument is that a townie would almost necessarily vote to survive to help the town if they don't know the other candidates alignment. We can argue this later when we are both out of the game if you don't see it. | ||
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debears
United States2516 Posts
Wth? You now find inig scummy again? | ||
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Rad
United States935 Posts
I get a super confused feel from inig, but not a scummy feel. I feel like he just doesn't know how he's supposed to act and he's very open about it. He lays out his thoughts for everyone to read. I feel like we should do the same with him as we're doing with djo, give him a chance to talk more and he should slip if he's scum. da0ud seems much less likely to slip if he's scum. He's more concise and not emotional. Furthermore, so far in this game da0ud is only active at times opposite now (no idea about his other games). I don't see any posts in his filter around this time (7am HK). Is it likely he won't be around to discuss lynches? I feel that might be an important consideration here as inig would be around for lynches in the future (or so he claims). | ||
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Rad
United States935 Posts
On October 27 2012 08:14 debears wrote: @djo Wth? You now find inig scummy again? did you miss-read dan's post at djo's post? because I did at first... and I don't see where djo has talked about inig recently. | ||
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Djodref
France3332 Posts
No, I'm not comfortable with any of the lynches to be honest. I'm looking at their filter over and over again and try to find some little clues... Regarding Inig, I should vote him if I was only a rational machine (no scumhunting at the beginning, wishy washy on Cheese, voting imcasey unexpectedly, the slip you have found, etc...) but I feel him as sincere in his posts. Not sure why he claimed though. Regarding daoud, I have no reasons to vote for him at the exception of his hasty vote. | ||
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Mr. Cheesecake
United States3756 Posts
My thoughts on the current state of affairs. It seems the lynch is in favor of Inig, but Da0ud following close behind. My vote on Djo is obviously not doing any good. I still consider him suspicious, and he is by no means off the hook. My efforts right now are better spent deciding who is a better lynch candidate: Da0ud or Inig. On Inig: Honestly, I have no idea why people suddenly started piling on top of him. I found him -slightly- suspicious after his emotional outburst and semi-lurking. However, since then he has been asking questions (to myself included) and improving his post count. The cases against him are weak, imo. I've read through them I don't see much of a reason to lynch him. His vote on Imcasey I don't view as scum-intentioned; it was an attempt to draw out the lurker. I don't think scum would be that bold, because a vote like that would (and surely did) draw attention. That is not at all blending in. His recent vote on Dandel, however, doesn't make sense from any role viewpoint I think, so I don't know what to think about that. I'll be reading more into his posts about Dandel later. On Da0ud: I skimmed through the cases concerning him, and by my own standards think he is more scummy-looking than Inig. In particular, this post about the modkill. On October 26 2012 23:07 da0ud wrote: One thing worries me and seems to have caught no ones attention. Clarity has been modkilled!! We are already one less town!! And he was posting actual content. We all saw the modkill. This isn't contributing anything. Why talk about it? A townie died, there's nothing we can do about it, especially since he basically suicided. This is a useless topic. Then, there is the entire percentage-based town read on Djo. I believe Kush mentioned this. 90% town on the first day? I most surely don't see it that way, and a 90% town read based on little concrete evidence? I don't get it. In addition, he's a semi-lurker / blending in. There is also an entire meta-arguement against him as well. I cannot address this as I know nothing of his previous game meta. This being said, I find Da0ud to be much more scummier than Inig. ##Vote: Da0ud I apologize for not being here sooner and for this post being somewhat rushed; I had a personal matter to attend to that required my immediate assistance. | ||
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debears
United States2516 Posts
On October 27 2012 07:57 Djodref wrote: I'm not really comfortable with any of the lynches... I'll say Ini right now because of the emotional part. He has been saying and now "I don't mind to be lynched" it doesn't add up... Rad this is what I'm talking about | ||
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Rad
United States935 Posts
##Vote da0ud Guys, what do we do if roco or imcasey come in last second and vote? Should we try to change our vote to them ASAP or let it slide and talk about it after? | ||
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Mr. Cheesecake
United States3756 Posts
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Djodref
France3332 Posts
On October 27 2012 08:16 Rad wrote: I've now read through inig's filter and debear's case on inig. I get a super confused feel from inig, but not a scummy feel. I feel like he just doesn't know how he's supposed to act and he's very open about it. He lays out his thoughts for everyone to read. I feel like we should do the same with him as we're doing with djo, give him a chance to talk more and he should slip if he's scum. da0ud seems much less likely to slip if he's scum. He's more concise and not emotional. Furthermore, so far in this game da0ud is only active at times opposite now (no idea about his other games). I don't see any posts in his filter around this time (7am HK). Is it likely he won't be around to discuss lynches? I feel that might be an important consideration here as inig would be around for lynches in the future (or so he claims). @Rad lol If we lynch daoud for these reasons, it would be the weakest reasons ever given to justify a lynch... | ||
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Rad
United States935 Posts
On October 27 2012 08:22 Djodref wrote: @Rad lol If we lynch daoud for these reasons, it would be the weakest reasons ever given to justify a lynch... It was a concern, Djo, not a defining reason. | ||
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Inigmaticalism
United States103 Posts
I voted for Dandel to make it clear I think he is scum, and i have succeeded in making my point by the looks of it. And since I had not read da0uds filter, I did not want to vote for someone I did not think was mafia. I have since then read his filter and the arguments brought against him and will now vote for him. ##unvote ##Vote: da0ud I think da0ud and Dandel are a scum team. Reasons for: include they have each only ever talked to each other at least once, and the time Dandel talks to da0ud he says On October 26 2012 22:56 Dandel Ion wrote: daoud, I expect better reasoning than that. It really gets me paranoid when people sheep on cases like you did, this early in the game. which may be fine but it sounds way too personal for them never have actually talking to each other. Reasons against: them both jumping on me after accusing Dandel would be poor scum play. And at that point in time, the only other lynch target was Djo. So possible scenarios include them being desperate, meaning Djo is also scum which I find hard to believe, or really was just poor scum play. So idk, it makes more sense to me that they are a scum team but not certain. Now, the one reason I am hesitant to vote for da0ud is because of kush. Kush has been here for only a few hours and it is clear he knows what he is doing and to me is a power player. I like pretty much everything hes said. Normally I would just be wary of him but we have no history really to check him out on, so I am inclined to give less weight to his arguments incase he is trying to pull something because it is obvious he knows what he is doing. But I will still vote for da0ud because his argument seems well done, and because this will no longer be an issue after another cycle has gone by. | ||
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Rad
United States935 Posts
On October 27 2012 08:21 Rad wrote: I'm going to have to go with da0ud for the reasons I listed previously. ##Vote da0ud Guys, what do we do if roco or imcasey come in last second and vote? Should we try to change our vote to them ASAP or let it slide and talk about it after? EBWOP: also want to say my vote is coming from a) kush's case, b) the fact that I feel like the case against inig isn't strong, and c) just my general feelings from reading through the 4 filters (kush, debears, inig, da0ud) | ||
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Inigmaticalism
United States103 Posts
* I found it kinda funny my top townie reads were/are wanting me dead * On October 27 2012 08:21 Rad wrote: I'm going to have to go with da0ud for the reasons I listed previously. ##Vote da0ud Guys, what do we do if roco or imcasey come in last second and vote? Should we try to change our vote to them ASAP or let it slide and talk about it after? I was actually going to be dumb and keep my vote on dandel if it looked like da0ud would be lynched but I didnt because of how close the lynch has been and because of this exact scenario possiblilty. | ||
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Djodref
France3332 Posts
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Rad
United States935 Posts
On October 27 2012 08:30 Djodref wrote: Seriously if Roco or imcasey are coming, we should just lynch them Shouldn't we let them get modkilled if they do nothing at this point? If they show up to vote, what do you think we should do? | ||
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debears
United States2516 Posts
On October 27 2012 08:20 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: Okay I just got back, and will be here pre and post lynch. My thoughts on the current state of affairs. It seems the lynch is in favor of Inig, but Da0ud following close behind. My vote on Djo is obviously not doing any good. I still consider him suspicious, and he is by no means off the hook. My efforts right now are better spent deciding who is a better lynch candidate: Da0ud or Inig. On Inig: Honestly, I have no idea why people suddenly started piling on top of him. I found him -slightly- suspicious after his emotional outburst and semi-lurking. However, since then he has been asking questions (to myself included) and improving his post count. The cases against him are weak, imo. I've read through them I don't see much of a reason to lynch him. His vote on Imcasey I don't view as scum-intentioned; it was an attempt to draw out the lurker. I don't think scum would be that bold, because a vote like that would (and surely did) draw attention. That is not at all blending in. His recent vote on Dandel, however, doesn't make sense from any role viewpoint I think, so I don't know what to think about that. I'll be reading more into his posts about Dandel later. On Da0ud: I skimmed through the cases concerning him, and by my own standards think he is more scummy-looking than Inig. In particular, this post about the modkill. We all saw the modkill. This isn't contributing anything. Why talk about it? A townie died, there's nothing we can do about it, especially since he basically suicided. This is a useless topic. Then, there is the entire percentage-based town read on Djo. I believe Kush mentioned this. 90% town on the first day? I most surely don't see it that way, and a 90% town read based on little concrete evidence? I don't get it. In addition, he's a semi-lurker / blending in. There is also an entire meta-arguement against him as well. I cannot address this as I know nothing of his previous game meta. This being said, I find Da0ud to be much more scummier than Inig. ##Vote: Da0ud I apologize for not being here sooner and for this post being somewhat rushed; I had a personal matter to attend to that required my immediate assistance. Really? The cases against inig are bad? When have you even addressed the inig cases? And how are the cases weak when you're accusing dauod of the same? | ||
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Djodref
France3332 Posts
On October 27 2012 08:31 Rad wrote: Shouldn't we let them get modkilled if they do nothing at this point? If they show up to vote, what do you think we should do? @Rad Sorry, I was not clear. I was talking about the case where they come in this thread and drop a vote. Otherwise, we'll see how the host manages them. | ||
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kushm4sta
United States8878 Posts
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