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Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
February 11 2013 19:45 GMT
#581
On February 12 2013 03:39 sylverfyre wrote:
Random question... Can you put shard of true ice buff on tibbers?


Yes.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
February 11 2013 20:47 GMT
#582
On February 12 2013 03:37 jaybrundage wrote:
Whats wrong with being a kill lane.


There's nothing 'wrong' with kill lanes, I'm just saying that there's nothing 'special' about the Annie+Leona lane that isn't present(probably in better quality even) in other kill lanes like J4+Panth or Panth+Leona or w/e you can think up in your head.
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jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
February 11 2013 21:00 GMT
#583
On February 12 2013 05:47 red_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2013 03:37 jaybrundage wrote:
Whats wrong with being a kill lane.


There's nothing 'wrong' with kill lanes, I'm just saying that there's nothing 'special' about the Annie+Leona lane that isn't present(probably in better quality even) in other kill lanes like J4+Panth or Panth+Leona or w/e you can think up in your head.

I think the biggest difference is that it offers an ap alternative to a kill lane the lanes you mentioned while they do work. Don't give you an Ap carry bot. Thats the biggest difference so you can run cait mid to counter kass for instance and then have annie doing work bot. Also I find that melee kill lanes can fail much harder then I think annie would bot as she has ranged autos and spells that can cs easily.

Also as a side note her spell shield would be nice to help win lanes against auto based champions as it hurts them each time they hit her.
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
HOOG
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada52 Posts
February 11 2013 21:19 GMT
#584
I'm so excited to join in the trolls this week ^^ this sounds amazing.
Here are a few things I've been toying with lately and would love to try/see more of:

ADC Leblanc (not even a troll, just OP)
Support GP (shoot b****s in the face, get money)
Support Jungler (Here we pick 3 god solo laners and a support to go with the jungler for the first clear. Jungler no longer need to start machete, super early double ganks and the support can go chill in whatever lane might be losing once the jungler takes off)

Look forward to trying many things on Friday!
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Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
February 11 2013 21:47 GMT
#585
I can in no way see support jungler being any good. The jungle and duo lane are always behind in levels anyway, now you're starting to talk 5+ levels behind a solo laner.
It's your boy Guzma!
Inschato
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada1349 Posts
February 12 2013 01:03 GMT
#586
The only champion that gets something out of following the jungler is Thresh. That's the only one it makes even a tiny bit of sense to try that with. I think he would also enable some pretty safe early game tower dives with his lantern, so if you execute it properly.. seems worth trying once to me.
3.
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
February 12 2013 17:24 GMT
#587
If someone wants to do preliminary work on the idea they can go ahead, but I'm extremely skeptical of its efficacy. Given how ridiculously good/efficient Machete items have become it's not really a handicap for most junglers. Having someone hang around leeching exp, however, would be.

I'm much more open to ADC LeBlanc. Her escape/kite potential is very high, but the question is whether this makes up for her absolutely horrible Attack Speed scaling (.625 base, 1.4% per level is really, really bad). She'd be good with BotRK though (her clone applies on-hit effects).
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
February 12 2013 18:01 GMT
#588
On February 13 2013 02:24 Seuss wrote:
If someone wants to do preliminary work on the idea they can go ahead, but I'm extremely skeptical of its efficacy. Given how ridiculously good/efficient Machete items have become it's not really a handicap for most junglers. Having someone hang around leeching exp, however, would be.

I'm much more open to ADC LeBlanc. Her escape/kite potential is very high, but the question is whether this makes up for her absolutely horrible Attack Speed scaling (.625 base, 1.4% per level is really, really bad). She'd be good with BotRK though (her clone applies on-hit effects).

BotRK almost seems counter productive in that case, because the passive deals more damage the higher the target's health is. Hopefully, if your clone gets popped at all, the enemy shouldn't be at full health. I mean sure, it's still double proccing for 4% of their current health, which will be nice against the Olaf diving you, but hopefully he'll be lower than 50% himself and the proc won't be hitting for all too much.
It's your boy Guzma!
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
February 12 2013 20:41 GMT
#589
You're probably right, although now I'm curious as to whether LeBlanc's clone applies BC stacks.

I've actually Played AD LeBlanc in ARAMs a few times. Although I'm concerned about her base Attack Speed and her poor per level growth, her ridiculous amount of self peel is incredible. W is on a shorter cooldown than Ezreal's E, and in many situations can be reactivated to double her gap creation. She can mimic it as well, allowing her to position clear on the other side of a fight no problem. With a slow+root and a silence on similarly short cooldowns, she actually has a lot going for her.

She is short range (525), but given that she's harder to lock down than Vayne that shouldn't be a huge problem unless she tries to duel the opposing AD.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
February 12 2013 20:47 GMT
#590
Even with no AP her base damages are nothing to sneeze at as well. A lvl 3-5 all-in with one of the aggressive supports would be fucking terrifying. You'd definitely have to aim at ending the game early-ish though, even with her toolkit she just won't be able to bang with tanks like a typical itemized AD.
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Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
February 12 2013 21:23 GMT
#591
Get SotD, then IE
Jump their squishy with W
pew pew pew -> dead squishy
Jump out again

It's like AP leb, but with better lategame!

The AA range shouldn't be tooooo much of an issue, remember that you'll use R to copy the W. So you have 2 spammable repositions + flash.
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necrosed
Profile Joined March 2011
Brazil885 Posts
February 13 2013 01:21 GMT
#592
I'm slightly interested in Siege and Early level pushing comps (much to GSG's game against CJ Entus). I figured that you need the enemy to pick bad-pushing champions on top and bot (Like Shen/Lee Sin), but your own composition may vary.

What you do need, however, is:
1. A way to leash lizard/blue to you. You can do that with Blitzcrank/Syndra/Trundle (only lizard).
2. Very strong lane-pushing level 1-onwards. (They had Cait TF Heimer. I'm thinking of other viable picks).
3. A teleporter that clears fast and scales really well. (Olaf).

So, ideas for #2 and #3? I've been thinking about AD Malzahar and Jarvan, but nothing else comes to mind. For #3, Renekton and Riven come to mind.
Also, need people to help me test this as well!
Shadow of his former self.
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
February 13 2013 02:28 GMT
#593
What are peoples thoughts of Sotd being viable on an ad ranged carry
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
dae
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada1600 Posts
February 13 2013 02:30 GMT
#594
On February 13 2013 11:28 jaybrundage wrote:
What are peoples thoughts of Sotd being viable on an ad ranged carry


Got SotD on twitch a few times.

It works well if you go ie first and are ahead, so that you literally 1 shot a squishy with it, or do massive damage to their entire team.

If your behind, it doesn't do enough and your sustained damage sucks.
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
February 13 2013 04:39 GMT
#595
I have been playing a bit of cait ima try runnans if i can in a ranked game

The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
February 13 2013 05:30 GMT
#596
On February 13 2013 10:21 necrosed wrote:
I'm slightly interested in Siege and Early level pushing comps (much to GSG's game against CJ Entus). I figured that you need the enemy to pick bad-pushing champions on top and bot (Like Shen/Lee Sin), but your own composition may vary.

What you do need, however, is:
1. A way to leash lizard/blue to you. You can do that with Blitzcrank/Syndra/Trundle (only lizard).
2. Very strong lane-pushing level 1-onwards. (They had Cait TF Heimer. I'm thinking of other viable picks).
3. A teleporter that clears fast and scales really well. (Olaf).

So, ideas for #2 and #3? I've been thinking about AD Malzahar and Jarvan, but nothing else comes to mind. For #3, Renekton and Riven come to mind.
Also, need people to help me test this as well!


AD malz wont work at all, he devours mana to get anything done, the game will be mostly over by the time he gets enough mana or enough ad to do anything, pick one.

honestly their really isn't much to an early push like that, the champs they picked are really the best for their roles
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JALbert
Profile Joined March 2011
United States484 Posts
February 13 2013 05:53 GMT
#597
AD Ahri relatively legit IMO. Played it on a few normals a while back. Her base attack speed is very respectable, and her ult lets her reposition a ton in fights, plus you have hard CC.

Also you get a kill the second you hit six assuing you're laning with any form of CC.
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jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
February 13 2013 06:19 GMT
#598
Does anyone know if BotRK procs on hit with Runnan hurricane. I would assume it would but I want to make sure. I want to start with adc itemization I think it would be smart to branch out and see if different items are better.
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
February 13 2013 06:20 GMT
#599
Yes, but Hurricane kinda sucks. I really wanted it to be good, tried it like all the time when S3 hit, but it's pretty bad on anyone except like Kog and Teemo.
It's your boy Guzma!
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
February 13 2013 07:20 GMT
#600
On February 13 2013 15:20 Requizen wrote:
Yes, but Hurricane kinda sucks. I really wanted it to be good, tried it like all the time when S3 hit, but it's pretty bad on anyone except like Kog and Teemo.

did you try it with cait at all?
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