EPTWho was the Best American Football player? - Page 3
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Augury
United States758 Posts
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LuckyFool
United States9015 Posts
Best all time gotta be Barry Sanders. | ||
OneOther
United States10774 Posts
Steve Young...Joe Montana! | ||
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Yogurt
United States4258 Posts
he's just... amazing and does amazing things | ||
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InToTheWannaB
United States4770 Posts
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il0seonpurpose
Korea (South)5638 Posts
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Shymon
United States620 Posts
hell he's not even the best of his era(s). of course you have to qualify what you mean by "best", and if by "best" you really mean to say: "the most entertaining player to watch" then Brett might indeed have a legitimate claim to the throne. But he was always a player that, while having serious flaws, seemed to rise above them with sheer determination. Not that he was the best at his position. think about it, would at any time in his career would you have picked him over Tom Brady? yeah, thought not. Speaking of Brady he probably would be the run away favorite if he could have just won one more game last year, but alas fate is a cruel mistress. | ||
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AmorVincitOmnia
Kenya3846 Posts
![[image loading]](http://www.nflmafia.com/danmarino.jpg) dan marino, no one even almost comes close. | ||
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Disarray
United States1164 Posts
On December 11 2008 12:24 AmorVincitOmnia wrote: dan marino, no one even almost comes close. weird, i don't see any rings. oh. | ||
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BalliSLife
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AmorVincitOmnia
Kenya3846 Posts
in that adam sandler movie, little nicky, they actually got marino to ask satan for a ring. the guy deserved at least one ;/ | ||
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IzzyCraft
United States4487 Posts
Steve Young | ||
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MamiyaOtaru
United States1687 Posts
On December 11 2008 04:09 Liquid`Drone wrote: "football" in american football supposedly refers to the ball being a foot long This is not true at all. Football is called football because that's what it is and has always been. History lesson follows! Back in the day (early 1800s) football was the name used for a sport with a range of playing styles. It was used for both kicking only, or carrying and grabbing/tackling. This was a bit confusing of course, so In 1863 a group of teams met, called themselves the Football Association and drafted a comprehensive set of rules to prevent the disputes that using disparate styles produced. The no carrying, kicking only game they eventually settled on was known as Association Football (shortened to Soccer) to differentiate it from the other kind of football which continued to be played and came to be known as Rugby football (after the school where that carrying style was popularized, around 1823). But even Association Football had carrying. The original rules as drafted in 1863 contained these: "IX. A player shall be entitled to run with the ball towards his adversaries' goal if he makes a fair catch, or catches the ball on the first bound but in the case of a fair catch, if he makes his mark he shall not run. X. If any player shall run with the ball towards his adversaries' goal, any player on the opposite side shall be at liberty to charge, hold, trip or hack him, or to wrest the ball from him, but no player shall be held and hacked at the same time." Those rules were dropped from Association Football, but the fact they were there at first shows there was a lot of holding and running with the ball in football, even if one particular group (the Association) eventually moved away from it in creating the current Soccer Football. So understand this: both variations were known as "Football." In England, Association Football became dominant and took over the Football moniker while the other variation ended up having "football" dropped from the name and being simply Rugby. In other countries like Australia, Canada and America, the opposite happened. The carrying version was dominant, and took over the Football moniker, while the kicking kind (Association Football) ended up having "football" dropped from the name and being simply Soccer. So I get sick of hearing that basically every major English speaking country but the UK picked the wrong version of Football to keep calling Football while giving the other one a different moniker to distinguish it. Brits call the carrying kind Rugby (as in Rugby Football) and the US/Canada/Australia call the kicking kind Soccer (as in Association Football). Now if in whatever non English language someone happens to speak the word for soccer is literally "Foot" - "Ball" (as in German: Fußball), great, good for you. But the word has a history in English and when you mock or rail against large parts of the English speaking world without being aware of it you look like a twit. Maybe you'd like to go back in time and explain to everyone playing the carry version of football that what they were doing wouldn't really be considered football by people in non English speaking countries of the 21st century and they really shouldn't have called it that. But they did, and that mixed up sport's now differentiated descendents are divided between being called Soccer/Football or Football/Rugby depending on which version won out in a particular country. ***** TL;DR - People from England who hate the word "soccer": you coined it, not us. Other language speakers: the word "football" has a history in English you obviously aren't aware of (learn it before complaining) or prefer to ignore (in which case meh to you). | ||
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mtmf
Brazil420 Posts
On December 11 2008 08:29 CharlieMurphy wrote: I think its stupid how the rest of the world calls it football, what the hell is wrong with soccer? Maybe the fact that it's a stupid name Americans invented for a sport that already was named football just because they couldn't find a better name for their sport that was invented after the first one... Anyway, I just love both! (but I love football more, the real one!!!) EDIT: Well, my post just look bad after the one above... Now I have to go back in time and convince those guys to name their sport Carryball to solve this mess up... | ||
thedeadhaji
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MamiyaOtaru
United States1687 Posts
On December 11 2008 13:55 mtmf wrote: Maybe the fact that it's a stupid name Americans invented for a sport that already was named football just because they couldn't find a better name for their sport that was invented after the first one... Read my post right above yours pls EDIT: thank you Now I have to go back in time and convince those guys to name their sport Carryball to solve this mess up... This would be ideal LOL Obviously which version won in a given country isn't a once-and-for-all thing. Especially due too the influence of the rest of the world, I wouldn't be surprised if the kicking kind comes back and wins out in Australia, Canada or even the US someday and takes over the name Football there as well. But the point is, we have a reason and a history behind calling our sport Football. In the future if we no longer call it that, we will still be able to say we had a reason to call it Football, because it was and is Football, just a different kind that fell out of favor (though it hasn't here yet, nor has it in many other English speaking areas). | ||
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Boblion
France8043 Posts
On December 11 2008 10:19 SpiralArchitect wrote: LOL All the people that bitched about their football thread getting trolled are doing the exact same thing... nice. I will just remind your posts in the other thread. On November 29 2008 05:14 SpiralArchitect wrote: Marshall Faulk :D (American Football ftw!) On December 06 2008 06:22 SpiralArchitect wrote: I played soccer for a long time and I really love it but football is the ultimate mother fucking sport gentleman. Theres nothing like sitting in the stands with 60k people and watching my favorite college team (BYU) trash on their opponents. I am sure you all get the same feeling for soccer, to each his own :D On December 06 2008 06:34 SpiralArchitect wrote: ^ Well I am talking about amateur teams here. I sat in Mile High Stadium and watched the Broncos with over 100k people... Like I said to each his own, this argument is not one that can be won by either side. Personally I like my football and I am sure you like yours :D On December 06 2008 07:25 SpiralArchitect wrote: Because America is the manliest nation in the world, one time I was digging a hole and steak sauce came oozing out. True story. Thats how fucking manly America is. FOOTBALL (not sissy soccer) is the greatest sport in the world, one time I was watching it from home on my HUGE MOTHER FUCKING AMERICAN TV and I got knocked out by the sheer intensity of Marshal "The Manly Man" Faulks running abilities. In contrast one time I was watching soccer and I think I felt my penis go back inside of me. Luckily I was able to change the station before my manhood was taken from me by you sissy ass Europeans and your shitty ass game. FUCK YOUR FOOTBALL. The only way to solve this is to get the manly men from our American leagues and your sissy men from your Euro leagues and have them duke it out to the death. Who do you think will win? HINT: AMERICA! On December 06 2008 07:36 SpiralArchitect wrote: This guy lives in America, do you really want to mess with us? On December 06 2008 20:38 SpiralArchitect wrote: AmERICA OWNZ :> On December 11 2008 10:25 SpiralArchitect wrote: I guess I shouldnt really be talking though since I set off the whole troll in the other thread. Sorry  Agreed. | ||
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InToTheWannaB
United States4770 Posts
admit he the greatest ADMIT IT!!! | ||
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nemY
United States3119 Posts
The second-best football player that I grew up with was Steve Young. Seriously, his '94 season was AMAZING, but seriously the best football player I grew up watching? Barry Sanders no doubt. HE and HE ALONE was the reason the Lions were somewhat decent throughout the 90s he's so good i could watch him even with Lil' John playing in the background | ||
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Klive5ive
United Kingdom6056 Posts
How can you have the "best" American football player. Every role in the team is like another different game. It's not really a team sport more a business venture with different departments specialising in a range of unique things. The "Defense" department specialising in outgoing finances for example. Then you need 500 pounds worth of padding just to start. Then it's only played by a very very select group of individuals who are streamlined from a young age to be football players and nothing else. Every tried playing a game of American football in your back yard? I bet that's a joke. The reason real football is the most popular sport in the world is because it's so awesomely simple to play yet so incredibly hard to master. It's the energetic equivalent of starcraft. All you need is a ball and a few friends and you can have a great time for hours and hours, in fact there is hardly anything I would rather do than play football. I could play it for days. Americans have done a brilliant job of making a national sport that is only fun to watch on TV, it's the end product of years of ridiculous over ruling and American's special brand of capatalism. The people that win are the businessman that own the clubs and the TV stations. Whilst your average fan at the game gets to see 10 minutes of decent action spread over an entire day, which is then further ruined by ridiculous refereeing. Disclaimer: On December 11 2008 04:09 Liquid`Drone wrote: as the other thread was trolled and you also used the term "real football" in the post body I certainly wont stop anyone else. :p | ||
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