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cgrinker
United States3824 Posts
My picks: 1) Brett Favre: He is just so consistent! 2) Tom Brady: While I live in the Pacific northwest I'm originally from new England so the Pats have a special place in my heart. 3) Seneca Wallace is the 2nd string QB for the Seahawks but they have him player Tight end, wide receiver, running back, he's pretty crazy. Discuss | ||
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Ozarugold
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Qatol
United States3165 Posts
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pirate cod
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Boblion
France8043 Posts
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food
United States1951 Posts
On December 11 2008 03:14 Boblion wrote: Zidane then Ronaldo. damn dude, u living up to your post count | ||
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Spike
United States1392 Posts
Hopefully, Jozy Altidore in the years to come. Wait, how did I forget the legend - Brian Mcbride. /end thread | ||
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Klive5ive
United Kingdom6056 Posts
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Naib
Hungary4843 Posts
... Seriously. Not that I hate this sport for anything, but football is football. This is american football. | ||
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food
United States1951 Posts
On December 11 2008 03:53 Naib wrote: How could you call this "real football" ... Seriously. Not that I hate this sport for anything, but football is football. This is american football. thats right. Real football played with real feet™ | ||
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Ozarugold
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Liquid`Drone
Norway28668 Posts
also, you did name the title american football player so i'll refrain from trolling it myself, but as the other thread was trolled and you also used the term "real football" in the post body I certainly wont stop anyone else. :p | ||
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KOFgokuon
United States14893 Posts
ever seen on tv? hmm. I have always thought that ed reed was amazingly good (so does everyone else too but that's beside the point), also brian dawkins amazes me with his consistent play (maybe not this year he's getting old). Sean Taylor had some amazingly athletic plays before his untimely death I like high quality safety play, they have to be so versatile and also smart | ||
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ilj.psa
Peru3081 Posts
Surely C. Ronaldo has had a great year, but Ronaldo is 22 years old, but his physical form is the key element of his game, and some fancy footwork, which in many cases never produce anything but a highlight film. Rooney has some tempermant issues. He is strong, but fails in craftiness and creativity in comparison to the rest, but is still creative in comparison to others (outside of Riquelme - whom I think is the most creative player) Kaka is now 25 years old, kaka is a speedy player who gets all his production from counter attack. You will never see kaka dictating the game with his creativity unless he is on the counter attack. Kaka isn’t a playmaker. ![[image loading]](http://i.a.cnn.net/si/2006/writers/grant_wahl/06/01/ronaldinho.qa/p1_ronaldinho_0601.jpg) Ronaldinho is still one of the best. Though most of his goal this season came from PK & free kicks, thats still talent and when he is on his game, no one could out surpass him. ![[image loading]](http://www.football-wallpapers.com/wallpapers3/messi_13_1024x768.jpg) Messi is 19 years old, but yet he is the most dangerous player. Remember Messi was out due to injury for 4 months, yet came back firing. A hat trick at the classico, and wondrous goal last week has made him the face of football. His speed, craftiness, technique & ability to control the ball so close to his feet while running full speed makes him a dangerous player. Messi isn’t a future world best, he is the worlds best. ![[image loading]](http://www.football-wallpapers.com/wallpapers/zidane_4_1024x768.jpg) Not to forget about Zidane, he was wonderful on his Juventus years, he literally WAS Juventus, he's long passes ,technical ability and control with the ball is like no other. Thats why in my opinion he's the best playmaker/midfielder on the world that has ever lived. Best manager in the world would be Sir Alex Ferguson, theres no one that even comes close to him Sir Alex Ferguson was a wee 16-year-old lad, ready to make his debut in professional football for Queen’s Park. He has come a long way since then, winning thirteen League titles in England and Scotland, six European trophies, five FA Cups, two League Cups, as well as a further five trophies in Scotland. Rio Ferdinand isn’t the only one to heap on the praise, we’ve seen a striking U-turn from ABU Oliver Holt, as well as several managers in the Premiership offering up their high opinion of our manager. “When I was trying to make my way in management in Spain, I wanted to learn as much as possible, so I decided to spend some time in England, to see how things were done over here,” said Liverpool manager, Rafael Benitez. Current Chelsea manager, Luiz Filipe Scolari, reckons Fergie is an inspiration. “Sir Alex’s contribution for football not only in England, but in the world, is huge,” said Scolari. “He is a man with passion who loves his job, loves football. I want, in my life, to follow this man and his story. Many coaches in the world when they look and read about Alex, they admire him. He is an inspiration and a man who is a mentor for others.” Ferguson’s new best mate, Arsene Wenger, has also commented on the achievement of our manager. “Fifty years is an unbelievable achievement and there is a massive passion behind that,” said Wenger. “In his case it is a massive achievement because for most of those years he has been under pressure at the top, top level.” Martin O’Neil, who some reds fancy to replace Fergie in a couple of seasons, puts our manager up there as one of the greatest ever. “To manage any club and stay there for such a long period of time is remarkable,” he said. “To do that at Manchester United where the expectations and the ability to come up to those expectations is constantly questioned is, quite simply, phenomenal. He is one of the best managers of all-time. Unquestionably.” ![[image loading]](http://www.topnews.in/sports/files/Alex-Ferguson2.jpg) Also R.I.P to Thomas Kressner from goal.tv staff, he was the best executive producer in the world that i had ever seen or wish to had seen hypothetically speaking, he really boosted goal tv general audience and stablished it as one of the best football channels, not only in America but in the world. ![[image loading]](http://www.bcww.net/2008/kor/images/s_8_Thomas_Kressner.jpg) | ||
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Boblion
France8043 Posts
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Frits
11782 Posts
I think it's obvious that European logic is superior here. Also, Zidane, obviously. | ||
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Xusneb
Canada612 Posts
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Enrique
United States377 Posts
That said, I'd say Dan Marino is probably my pick for best QB and Barry Sanders for RB. Defense is also hard to quantify, so I'll base my picks based on the only thing I care about: Tecmo Super Bowl for the NES! As such, the defenders are tied in my opinion. Really, it's Rod Woodson at corner, and Dave Fulcher playing Safety. Notable mention goes to Mike Singletary. When in doubt, always consult the best (American) football game ever! | ||
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Liquid`Drone
Norway28668 Posts
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
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white_box921
United Kingdom967 Posts
Friedel, but then he is a GK. Easily the best though. edit: I thought of more!! but they are surely not good enough to be on the list, never seen donovan play so I can't comment. Also, there are probably more kicks using a foot in rugby than american football | ||
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fbs
United Kingdom2476 Posts
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Sadist
United States7230 Posts
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FaCE_1
Canada6172 Posts
.. Joe Montana rising: Bob Sanders from Colts. | ||
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Luddite
United States2315 Posts
And obviously Joe Namath: ![[image loading]](http://www.marksimpson.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/namath_250.jpg) | ||
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Liquid`Drone
Norway28668 Posts
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Frits
11782 Posts
On December 11 2008 07:34 Liquid`Drone wrote: frits while I cannot blame you for getting their stupid measurements wrong, a football is much smaller than 27 inches lol I copied it from some site without realizing that'd be way too big I think inches should be centimeters | ||
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KOFgokuon
United States14893 Posts
On December 11 2008 08:00 Luddite wrote: Dammit, I wish we could ban all the Europeans posters from this thread. And obviously Joe Namath: you watched joe namath play? | ||
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CharlieMurphy
United States22895 Posts
but then again I don't give a shit about soccer, so call it whatever you want, it still sucks. Lets change basketball to hand ball because you obviously use your hands to play the game and not feet. Who cares if there is already some other kid's game called handball ours is better. And besides there really is no 'basket' in the game its a net. | ||
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Signet
United States1718 Posts
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Spike
United States1392 Posts
On December 11 2008 08:29 CharlieMurphy wrote: And besides there really is no 'basket' in the game its a net. well, it did start out with a peach basket  | ||
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QuanticHawk
United States32056 Posts
For me, Joe Montana, Jerry Rice or Barry Sanders, mostly just cuz he did it with absolutely no one around him | ||
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cgrinker
United States3824 Posts
On December 11 2008 03:53 Naib wrote: How could you call this "real football" ... Seriously. Not that I hate this sport for anything, but football is football. This is american football. Thankyou for pointing out the joke. Ten points to your intellect | ||
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SpiralArchitect
United States2116 Posts
Anyway its hard to pick the best because there are so many positions but I have to say: Marshal Faulk - THe man was born covered in butter, nobody can tough him John Elway - Spent his whole career with the same team.Five superbowls, two wins and one of the losses was up against Joe fucking Montana. Steve Young - Nuff said. | ||
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SpiralArchitect
United States2116 Posts
On December 11 2008 08:05 Liquid`Drone wrote: luddite, blame your countrymen, we are only doing it to show how annoying it was when you did the same to our thread. To be fair the Americans came into that thread made a slight joke and agreed that both were cool sports, it was a joke. In the soccer thread and this one the Euros are just trashing on our sport like theres no tomorrow. At least we didnt come in and call something that is a staple of entertainment in your country shit. I guess I shouldnt really be talking though since I set off the whole troll in the other thread. Sorry  On December 11 2008 06:59 Frits wrote: Hmmm according to european logic we should call american football "handball with the occasional foot" while according to american logic we should call soccer "27 to 28 inch ball". I think it's obvious that European logic is superior here. Also, Zidane, obviously. Ok then lets rename soccer to "football with the occasional catchball also sometimes hit with head, stomach, knee chest or pretty much any other part your body than your hand, also can be picked up sometimes) I think football is a jackass name for any sport but honestly which sport doesnt have a shitty name? Sports names arent meant to be descriptive of the way they are played. Did you know that rugby is originally a form of your football (soccer)? Well man rugby is played mostly with your hands and the occasional kick and for a long time people still called it football. Wow guess that makes you guys pretty dumb too... Basketball = Played with a basket when it first was invented, a fucking basket has no place in a modern basketball game. Baseball = The fucking bases obviously. Clearly not meant to describe the sport at all but one small facet of it. Hockey = I have no fucking idea. I would try to name a good European sport but all you guys have right now is soccer. Burn. its shitty to have your favorite sport trashed on for no reason huh? Also, Ronaldo, obviously :D | ||
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Spike
United States1392 Posts
He was born in New Jersey... Title changed on me. Well, best I've seen in person is Ed Reed. | ||
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only_human89
United States212 Posts
On December 11 2008 03:53 Naib wrote: How could you call this "real football" ... Seriously. Not that I hate this sport for anything, but football is football. This is american football. Did you read the thread title? Or perhaps he changed the title already. If so my bad. | ||
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d(O.o)a
Canada5066 Posts
Comparing a Lineman to a Quarterback makes no sense. | ||
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ish0wstopper
Korea (South)342 Posts
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MyStiC_Chaos
United States499 Posts
On December 11 2008 02:57 cgrinker wrote: Seneca Wallace Wtf | ||
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Augury
United States758 Posts
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LuckyFool
United States9015 Posts
Best all time gotta be Barry Sanders. | ||
OneOther
United States10774 Posts
Steve Young...Joe Montana! | ||
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Yogurt
United States4258 Posts
he's just... amazing and does amazing things | ||
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InToTheWannaB
United States4770 Posts
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il0seonpurpose
Korea (South)5638 Posts
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Shymon
United States620 Posts
hell he's not even the best of his era(s). of course you have to qualify what you mean by "best", and if by "best" you really mean to say: "the most entertaining player to watch" then Brett might indeed have a legitimate claim to the throne. But he was always a player that, while having serious flaws, seemed to rise above them with sheer determination. Not that he was the best at his position. think about it, would at any time in his career would you have picked him over Tom Brady? yeah, thought not. Speaking of Brady he probably would be the run away favorite if he could have just won one more game last year, but alas fate is a cruel mistress. | ||
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AmorVincitOmnia
Kenya3846 Posts
![[image loading]](http://www.nflmafia.com/danmarino.jpg) dan marino, no one even almost comes close. | ||
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Disarray
United States1164 Posts
On December 11 2008 12:24 AmorVincitOmnia wrote: dan marino, no one even almost comes close. weird, i don't see any rings. oh. | ||
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BalliSLife
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AmorVincitOmnia
Kenya3846 Posts
in that adam sandler movie, little nicky, they actually got marino to ask satan for a ring. the guy deserved at least one ;/ | ||
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IzzyCraft
United States4487 Posts
Steve Young | ||
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MamiyaOtaru
United States1687 Posts
On December 11 2008 04:09 Liquid`Drone wrote: "football" in american football supposedly refers to the ball being a foot long This is not true at all. Football is called football because that's what it is and has always been. History lesson follows! Back in the day (early 1800s) football was the name used for a sport with a range of playing styles. It was used for both kicking only, or carrying and grabbing/tackling. This was a bit confusing of course, so In 1863 a group of teams met, called themselves the Football Association and drafted a comprehensive set of rules to prevent the disputes that using disparate styles produced. The no carrying, kicking only game they eventually settled on was known as Association Football (shortened to Soccer) to differentiate it from the other kind of football which continued to be played and came to be known as Rugby football (after the school where that carrying style was popularized, around 1823). But even Association Football had carrying. The original rules as drafted in 1863 contained these: "IX. A player shall be entitled to run with the ball towards his adversaries' goal if he makes a fair catch, or catches the ball on the first bound but in the case of a fair catch, if he makes his mark he shall not run. X. If any player shall run with the ball towards his adversaries' goal, any player on the opposite side shall be at liberty to charge, hold, trip or hack him, or to wrest the ball from him, but no player shall be held and hacked at the same time." Those rules were dropped from Association Football, but the fact they were there at first shows there was a lot of holding and running with the ball in football, even if one particular group (the Association) eventually moved away from it in creating the current Soccer Football. So understand this: both variations were known as "Football." In England, Association Football became dominant and took over the Football moniker while the other variation ended up having "football" dropped from the name and being simply Rugby. In other countries like Australia, Canada and America, the opposite happened. The carrying version was dominant, and took over the Football moniker, while the kicking kind (Association Football) ended up having "football" dropped from the name and being simply Soccer. So I get sick of hearing that basically every major English speaking country but the UK picked the wrong version of Football to keep calling Football while giving the other one a different moniker to distinguish it. Brits call the carrying kind Rugby (as in Rugby Football) and the US/Canada/Australia call the kicking kind Soccer (as in Association Football). Now if in whatever non English language someone happens to speak the word for soccer is literally "Foot" - "Ball" (as in German: Fußball), great, good for you. But the word has a history in English and when you mock or rail against large parts of the English speaking world without being aware of it you look like a twit. Maybe you'd like to go back in time and explain to everyone playing the carry version of football that what they were doing wouldn't really be considered football by people in non English speaking countries of the 21st century and they really shouldn't have called it that. But they did, and that mixed up sport's now differentiated descendents are divided between being called Soccer/Football or Football/Rugby depending on which version won out in a particular country. ***** TL;DR - People from England who hate the word "soccer": you coined it, not us. Other language speakers: the word "football" has a history in English you obviously aren't aware of (learn it before complaining) or prefer to ignore (in which case meh to you). | ||
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mtmf
Brazil420 Posts
On December 11 2008 08:29 CharlieMurphy wrote: I think its stupid how the rest of the world calls it football, what the hell is wrong with soccer? Maybe the fact that it's a stupid name Americans invented for a sport that already was named football just because they couldn't find a better name for their sport that was invented after the first one... Anyway, I just love both! (but I love football more, the real one!!!) EDIT: Well, my post just look bad after the one above... Now I have to go back in time and convince those guys to name their sport Carryball to solve this mess up... | ||
thedeadhaji
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MamiyaOtaru
United States1687 Posts
On December 11 2008 13:55 mtmf wrote: Maybe the fact that it's a stupid name Americans invented for a sport that already was named football just because they couldn't find a better name for their sport that was invented after the first one... Read my post right above yours pls EDIT: thank you Now I have to go back in time and convince those guys to name their sport Carryball to solve this mess up... This would be ideal LOL Obviously which version won in a given country isn't a once-and-for-all thing. Especially due too the influence of the rest of the world, I wouldn't be surprised if the kicking kind comes back and wins out in Australia, Canada or even the US someday and takes over the name Football there as well. But the point is, we have a reason and a history behind calling our sport Football. In the future if we no longer call it that, we will still be able to say we had a reason to call it Football, because it was and is Football, just a different kind that fell out of favor (though it hasn't here yet, nor has it in many other English speaking areas). | ||
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Boblion
France8043 Posts
On December 11 2008 10:19 SpiralArchitect wrote: LOL All the people that bitched about their football thread getting trolled are doing the exact same thing... nice. I will just remind your posts in the other thread. On November 29 2008 05:14 SpiralArchitect wrote: Marshall Faulk :D (American Football ftw!) On December 06 2008 06:22 SpiralArchitect wrote: I played soccer for a long time and I really love it but football is the ultimate mother fucking sport gentleman. Theres nothing like sitting in the stands with 60k people and watching my favorite college team (BYU) trash on their opponents. I am sure you all get the same feeling for soccer, to each his own :D On December 06 2008 06:34 SpiralArchitect wrote: ^ Well I am talking about amateur teams here. I sat in Mile High Stadium and watched the Broncos with over 100k people... Like I said to each his own, this argument is not one that can be won by either side. Personally I like my football and I am sure you like yours :D On December 06 2008 07:25 SpiralArchitect wrote: Because America is the manliest nation in the world, one time I was digging a hole and steak sauce came oozing out. True story. Thats how fucking manly America is. FOOTBALL (not sissy soccer) is the greatest sport in the world, one time I was watching it from home on my HUGE MOTHER FUCKING AMERICAN TV and I got knocked out by the sheer intensity of Marshal "The Manly Man" Faulks running abilities. In contrast one time I was watching soccer and I think I felt my penis go back inside of me. Luckily I was able to change the station before my manhood was taken from me by you sissy ass Europeans and your shitty ass game. FUCK YOUR FOOTBALL. The only way to solve this is to get the manly men from our American leagues and your sissy men from your Euro leagues and have them duke it out to the death. Who do you think will win? HINT: AMERICA! On December 06 2008 07:36 SpiralArchitect wrote: This guy lives in America, do you really want to mess with us? On December 06 2008 20:38 SpiralArchitect wrote: AmERICA OWNZ :> On December 11 2008 10:25 SpiralArchitect wrote: I guess I shouldnt really be talking though since I set off the whole troll in the other thread. Sorry Agreed. | ||
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InToTheWannaB
United States4770 Posts
admit he the greatest ADMIT IT!!! | ||
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nemY
United States3119 Posts
The second-best football player that I grew up with was Steve Young. Seriously, his '94 season was AMAZING, but seriously the best football player I grew up watching? Barry Sanders no doubt. HE and HE ALONE was the reason the Lions were somewhat decent throughout the 90s he's so good i could watch him even with Lil' John playing in the background | ||
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Klive5ive
United Kingdom6056 Posts
How can you have the "best" American football player. Every role in the team is like another different game. It's not really a team sport more a business venture with different departments specialising in a range of unique things. The "Defense" department specialising in outgoing finances for example. Then you need 500 pounds worth of padding just to start. Then it's only played by a very very select group of individuals who are streamlined from a young age to be football players and nothing else. Every tried playing a game of American football in your back yard? I bet that's a joke. The reason real football is the most popular sport in the world is because it's so awesomely simple to play yet so incredibly hard to master. It's the energetic equivalent of starcraft. All you need is a ball and a few friends and you can have a great time for hours and hours, in fact there is hardly anything I would rather do than play football. I could play it for days. Americans have done a brilliant job of making a national sport that is only fun to watch on TV, it's the end product of years of ridiculous over ruling and American's special brand of capatalism. The people that win are the businessman that own the clubs and the TV stations. Whilst your average fan at the game gets to see 10 minutes of decent action spread over an entire day, which is then further ruined by ridiculous refereeing. Disclaimer: On December 11 2008 04:09 Liquid`Drone wrote: as the other thread was trolled and you also used the term "real football" in the post body I certainly wont stop anyone else. :p | ||
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benjammin
United States2728 Posts
On December 11 2008 17:23 Klive5ive wrote: It's easy to make fun of American "RARELY GETS TOUCHED BY THE" foot ball, because the sport IS a joke. How can you have the "best" American football player. Every role in the team is like another different game. It's not really a team sport more a business venture with different departments specialising in a range of unique things. The "Defense" department specialising in outgoing finances for example. Then you need 500 pounds worth of padding just to start. Then it's only played by a very very select group of individuals who are streamlined from a young age to be football players and nothing else. Every tried playing a game of American football in your back yard? I bet that's a joke. The reason real football is the most popular sport in the world is because it's so awesomely simple to play yet so incredibly hard to master. It's the energetic equivalent of starcraft. All you need is a ball and a few friends and you can have a great time for hours and hours, in fact there is hardly anything I would rather do than play football. I could play it for days. Americans have done a brilliant job of making a national sport that is only fun to watch on TV, it's the end product of years of ridiculous over ruling and American's special brand of capatalism. The people that win are the businessman that own the clubs and the TV stations. Whilst your average fan at the game gets to see 10 minutes of decent action spread over an entire day, which is then further ruined by ridiculous refereeing. Disclaimer: | ||
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Katowice25012 Posts
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SpiralArchitect
United States2116 Posts
On December 11 2008 14:16 Boblion wrote: + Show Spoiler + On December 11 2008 10:19 SpiralArchitect wrote: LOL All the people that bitched about their football thread getting trolled are doing the exact same thing... nice. I will just remind your posts in the other thread. On November 29 2008 05:14 SpiralArchitect wrote: Marshall Faulk :D (American Football ftw!) On December 06 2008 06:22 SpiralArchitect wrote: I played soccer for a long time and I really love it but football is the ultimate mother fucking sport gentleman. Theres nothing like sitting in the stands with 60k people and watching my favorite college team (BYU) trash on their opponents. I am sure you all get the same feeling for soccer, to each his own :D On December 06 2008 06:34 SpiralArchitect wrote: ^ Well I am talking about amateur teams here. I sat in Mile High Stadium and watched the Broncos with over 100k people... Like I said to each his own, this argument is not one that can be won by either side. Personally I like my football and I am sure you like yours :D On December 06 2008 07:25 SpiralArchitect wrote: Because America is the manliest nation in the world, one time I was digging a hole and steak sauce came oozing out. True story. Thats how fucking manly America is. FOOTBALL (not sissy soccer) is the greatest sport in the world, one time I was watching it from home on my HUGE MOTHER FUCKING AMERICAN TV and I got knocked out by the sheer intensity of Marshal "The Manly Man" Faulks running abilities. In contrast one time I was watching soccer and I think I felt my penis go back inside of me. Luckily I was able to change the station before my manhood was taken from me by you sissy ass Europeans and your shitty ass game. FUCK YOUR FOOTBALL. The only way to solve this is to get the manly men from our American leagues and your sissy men from your Euro leagues and have them duke it out to the death. Who do you think will win? HINT: AMERICA! On December 06 2008 07:36 SpiralArchitect wrote: This guy lives in America, do you really want to mess with us? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rq2_YKQGE_U On December 06 2008 20:38 SpiralArchitect wrote: AmERICA OWNZ :> On December 11 2008 10:25 SpiralArchitect wrote: I guess I shouldnt really be talking though since I set off the whole troll in the other thread. Sorry Agreed. Lol that is obviously a fucking joke, i never ragged on your game or anything. Besides Marshall Faulk is the best football player ever. | ||
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thedeadhaji
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ChaoSbringer
Australia1382 Posts
He claimed that it was named football because it was played on foot, as opposed to horse (aka Polo) which was supposedly big around the time of the sports invention. I always thought it was weird though, it's not like Polo was called Horseball or anything... | ||
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TheTyranid
Russian Federation4333 Posts
They watch BORING ASS BASEBALL. It makes no sense. :S By the way American Football is a good sport. Much better than it's Rugby counterpart. It wouldn't be a bad idea to add it to the Olympics. | ||
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Guybrush
Spain4744 Posts
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Sadir
Vatican City State1176 Posts
On December 11 2008 20:35 TheTyranid wrote: I never understood the US "soccer is boring" stereotype. They watch BORING ASS BASEBALL. It makes no sense. :S By the way American Football is a good sport. Much better than it's Rugby counterpart. It wouldn't be a bad idea to add it to the Olympics. lol don't get me wrong, American Football may be great, but there is NO use in adding it to the Olympics, simply because there is only one country in which it is played. it would be one more instant gold medall for the US I am from austria, and it's supposed to be big here, austrian teams won 4 out of the last 8 EFAF-Cups....but lol it has no publicity (nearly no tv time, nearly no articles in the newspapers) nobody cares about it, I mean really nobody is interested in it and I don't think rugby is boring, the WC 2007 was really awesome (nearly as awesome as the real football WC) PS: and I really wanted to FUCKING TROLL your thread, like destroying our thread, which I really liked -.- | ||
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thedeadhaji
39489 Posts
bullshit imo. | ||
NonY
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CDRdude
United States5625 Posts
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Boblion
France8043 Posts
On December 11 2008 21:20 thedeadhaji wrote: i hate the fact that american football has separate offense and defense squads. bullshit imo. Same. On December 11 2008 20:53 Sadir wrote: and I don't think rugby is boring, the WC 2007 was really awesome (nearly as awesome as the real football WC) Rugby is AWESOME, but last WC sucked. Many lame match ups, and defense > offense ruined the fun. That's why they changed some rules this year. | ||
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BlackStar
Netherlands3029 Posts
On December 11 2008 02:57 cgrinker wrote: Who is the best (real football) player that you have ever seen? Im confused. I thought this was the American Football thread. | ||
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KOFgokuon
United States14893 Posts
On December 11 2008 22:44 CDRdude wrote: Nobody mentioned Jim Thorpe? have you ever seen jim thorpe play? people are missing the pt of the thread | ||
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QuanticHawk
United States32056 Posts
And soccer isn't (totally) sissy. I've currently got a black eye from blocking a shot with my face. Sweet. And this: | ||
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BlackStar
Netherlands3029 Posts
WTF That would be a technical KO in boxing or something. But here they don't even check if he's ok and the coach tells him to stand in front again with the hands in front of his face? Does he want that guy to die or something? He can't even stand up straight. Doesn't he know how fucking dangerous that is? If you get two heavy knocks to the head and then suffer brain damage and die in his sleep. Not the first time that would happen. Over here they have made special instructions in the case two players hit their heads against each other or if they are hit by the ball against the head. If he sees double or feels dizzy, forced sub to protect his brain. Yeah, you always see people play on at the pro level and suffer concussions and be out for a while. Like that goalkeeper from AZ. He was out for like 14 months and then still suffered from that blow to the head. Not to mention it's a yellow card to stand in front and a red card to throw the ball in someone's face. WTF | ||
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QuanticHawk
United States32056 Posts
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Telemako
Spain1636 Posts
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BlackStar
Netherlands3029 Posts
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hasuprotoss
United States4612 Posts
On December 11 2008 17:23 Klive5ive wrote: How can you have the "best" American football player. Every role in the team is like another different game. It's not really a team sport more a business venture with different departments specialising in a range of unique things. The "Defense" department specialising in outgoing finances for example. Yeah, it certainly is harder to define a "best" player with multiple positions; that's why they generally make pro-bowl teams and All-American teams for this instead of best player. However, you should not really be surprised when a running back or quarter back wins it for this type of award which is why the question is being raised. Then you need 500 pounds worth of padding just to start. Then it's only played by a very very select group of individuals who are streamlined from a young age to be football players and nothing else. What the fuck? Are you serious. I can play with no pads with my friends in my back yard if I truly wanted to. You don't need to be a member of some special elite "football playing" caste in order to be capable of playing the game. And nice over extension on the hyperbole, as I'm sure you'd like to play high-level competitive American football without pads (you realize how many fucking injuries happen with them anyway). Oh, and I'm sure you need to be a "streamlined from a young age" football player to be good at the highest-level of football as well. Every tried playing a game of American football in your back yard? I bet that's a joke. Not really. I used to do it a lot with my friends. It's not that fucking difficult. The reason real football is the most popular sport in the world is because it's so awesomely simple to play yet so incredibly hard to master. It's the energetic equivalent of starcraft. American football isn't that much horrifically different. It's easy to lob a ball to one of your buddy receivers. It's much more difficult being capable of reading zone coverages, dissecting a defense while a 300 pound mammoth is running a 4.7 40-yard dash speed ready to pound your ass into the ground. All you need is a ball and a few friends and you can have a great time for hours and hours, in fact there is hardly anything I would rather do than play football. I could play it for days. As could I with American football. Americans have done a brilliant job of making a national sport that is only fun to watch on TV, it's the end product of years of ridiculous over ruling and American's special brand of capatalism. The people that win are the businessman that own the clubs and the TV stations. Whilst your average fan at the game gets to see 10 minutes of decent action spread over an entire day, which is then further ruined by ridiculous refereeing. What the fuck? I'm not even going to respond to the first half of this paragraph since it's so overwhelming with stupidity. Your second half is completely flawed as well, due to the fact that there generally is enough action that the ten minutes more than make up for it (and let's not forget that football also has its massive downtimes [especially when players flop...]) and there can be some pretty ludicrous refereeing in football as well. If you want to continue to argue semantics, you will not receive any more word from me because this isn't the topic of discussion of this thread. If you really want to make a discussion over the "OMG MAI SP0RT R BETUH THAN URS!" conversation that you're attempting to hold here, make a new thread for it and watch it be closed near-instantly since no good argument will ever come from it. Until you do that, get the fuck out of the thread or list the best American football player you've ever seen. And judging by your lack of understanding of the sport, I guess that would be a question you would be incapable of answering. Anyways, to the OP: Barry Sanders is definitely a sexy pick with his special pizazz. But Seneca Wallace, really? | ||
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
On December 11 2008 21:25 Liquid`NonY wrote: a word having two meanings isn't a reason for everyone to be idiots. tl.net you let me down that's why this war is so hilarious gale sayers btw!!!! | ||
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Klive5ive
United Kingdom6056 Posts
On December 12 2008 02:55 oneofthem wrote: that's why this war is so hilarious gale sayers btw!!!! Not to mention "who's the best" threads are lame anyway, so it's not like were ruining something worthwhile. Oh, lol at the guy who wrote a massive reply to my post with numerous expletives. If I was to answer the very subjective original question, I'm going to have to say Adrian Peterson. You might say it's a lame/obvious choice but he just seems to be so incredibly talented. | ||
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MamiyaOtaru
United States1687 Posts
And an OT word to people who talk about pads being a sign of wussiness: do you say that to hockey players? Besides, I can't even watch football anymore. There's a nasty season ending injury almost every game. Shit makes me sick (knee injuries are a super phobia of mine). Obviously the pads aren't really needed at all and it's a bunch of powderpuffs wearing them | ||
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d_so
Korea (South)3262 Posts
little guy ran roughshod over EVERYONE for the niners/raiders back in the day/yay! | ||
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LordWeird
United States3411 Posts
JOHN FUCKING ELWAY | ||
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Mikilatov
United States3897 Posts
On December 12 2008 03:39 MamiyaOtaru wrote: Obviously the best way to decide this is Tecmo Bowl performance. Along those lines, the answer is either Bo Jackson or Lawrence Taylor. Def. Bo Jackson or Joe Montana/Jerry Rice combo. lol. I still play Tecmo Bowl today. Often. Super Tecmo Bowl, of course. Bo knows, and I do too. | ||
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QuanticHawk
United States32056 Posts
Now if we're talking Tecmo Bowl, Gmen are ridiculous. You simply can't kick fg/xp vs the Giants cuz of LT. | ||
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Leath
Canada1724 Posts
or wait... | ||
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cava
United States1035 Posts
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Flaccid
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snarl
Canada812 Posts
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selboN
United States2523 Posts
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{ToT}Strafe
Thailand7026 Posts
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Klive5ive
United Kingdom6056 Posts
He's American isn't he? | ||
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MeriaDoKk
Chile1726 Posts
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OctoPuSs
Canada5279 Posts
 !I'm more familiar with Canadian Football, but one player I really liked when I was younger was Emmitt Smith from the Cowboys! | ||
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SF-Fork
Russian Federation1401 Posts
Coby Jones. | ||
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Pyrrhuloxia
United States6700 Posts
Actually, Jerry Rice ftw. | ||
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InToTheWannaB
United States4770 Posts
On December 12 2008 04:23 Mikilatov wrote: Def. Bo Jackson or Joe Montana/Jerry Rice combo. lol. I still play Tecmo Bowl today. Often. Super Tecmo Bowl, of course. Bo knows, and I do too. ITS FREAKING L.T!!! Screw montana to rice. L.T could rush joe and if he was LUCKY enough to get the pass off before L.T planted his ass in the dirt. L.T was still fast enough to run backward and pick the pass off. Now thats GODLY! | ||
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Bub
United States3518 Posts
Overall I guess I'd say, for College Offense- Tommie Frazier Defense- Grant Wistrom NFL- Offense- hmm, Walter Payton Defense- Lawrence Taylor with Dick Butkus a close 2nd (im sure many wouldn't agree, but I just like him) | ||
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QuanticHawk
United States32056 Posts
On December 12 2008 13:43 InToTheWannaB wrote: ITS FREAKING L.T!!! Screw montana to rice. L.T could rush joe and if he was LUCKY enough to get the pass off before L.T planted his ass in the dirt. L.T was still fast enough to run backward and pick the pass off. Now thats GODLY! Pfffft. You just gotta know the plays that beat the blitz every time and LT = negated | ||
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