EPTOn May 08 2013 11:37 Dudasc wrote:
instead of:
1) what exactly is going on the screen (because we can see that)
instead of:
1) what exactly is going on the screen (because we can see that)
This bothers me a lot when i watch the NA stream.
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xzumiex
Belgium100 Posts
This bothers me a lot when i watch the NA stream. | ||
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Niko_Thien
Germany2671 Posts
On May 08 2013 15:32 Swords wrote: ToD and Kaelaris have been great. I always liked ToD's casting, and, now that he and Kaelaris have built up some chemistry, I've come to enjoy Kaelaris a lot as well. I think they'll only continue to improve the more they work together, but I also know ToD isn't casting the round of 16, so that's a bit disappointing. What? Tod isn't casting round of 16? Are you sure? Never heard of that before ; / To the casters themselves: KR: Awesome...I love Tastosis, great synergy, great gameknowledge (Artosis that is) and I personally really like their jokes, cant complain  Khaldor and Wolf do pretty fine, too. Always liked Khaldor since his casting in german back then, even remeber him from WC3. Wolf has good gameknowledge and his comments about anyones hair always make me smile. Keep up the good work!EU: Kaelaris has a nice to listen to voice, his play-by-play is fine. Tod has a lot of gameknowledge, as well as about the players in person and their playstyle. I also feel he improved a lot on pronnouncement and other stuff regarding casting, so I enjoy them both pretty much. They built up a nice synergy, too. NA: I really, really enjoyed Axslavs solocasting, i never thought it would be that good. Was really amazed For Axeltoss... sorry, he seems like a nice guy, but I never enjoyed his casting, to me he just feels boring :/ Shamtoo was great though, pleasent voice to listen to, works well with Axslav. Would love to see him cast more for MLG! | ||
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Drake
Germany6146 Posts
the thing is readong this thread alot say axeltoss just not do it for them, and that axslav is evne better alone BUT it wont change that he IS the caster and i think they wont switch it ... so instead perhaps he should sit down and think about how to improve his cast by alot | ||
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TeeTS
Germany2762 Posts
ToD and Kalaris are doing a great job. I think ToD's future in esport lies definately in casting, he's done great here in the past months (remember the M-House Cup?) Tastosis are doing what they did in the past few years - though Artosis is carrying Tastless through in my oppinion. Axeltoss and Axlav - I can't stand Axeltoss casting. It's boring and he tells you things that are just completely wrong. He has absolutely no clue about the game. D: DoA and Montechristo: I think they are being ignored by the community while doing an awesome job. I watched their cast yesterday and it was very good, but they only had like 300 Viewers. People just appreciate their work more! | ||
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Lonyo
United Kingdom3884 Posts
On May 08 2013 17:42 CoR wrote: axlsav isnt the problem, he is just WAY TO SHY ... he needs to get opener, but you normaly have 1 analyst 1 entertainer, i dont se how axeltoss can entertain me ... he trys to go analyticvs etc and nothing full we need a full entertainer so i would say husky/tb/day9/ one of them who is an entertainer like tastless edit: also in us they said its a surprise that jim won vs sasquatchs ... when you say something where 98% of the listeners think WTF then its just not good Axslav is OK, and Husky on a good day might work, but the other two would just talk over Axslav all the time and wouldn't match well. That bein said, yesterday casting ZvZ he was awful. He could do with working on ZvZ knowledge. If NASL had it instead of MLG it would have resulted in the best NA casting lineup. | ||
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nkr
Sweden5451 Posts
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Drake
Germany6146 Posts
On May 08 2013 17:47 TeeTS wrote: You can't make a single poll for 3 total different casting teams. This makes absolutely no sense! ToD and Kalaris are doing a great job. I think ToD's future in esport lies definately in casting, he's done great here in the past months (remember the M-House Cup?) Tastosis are doing what they did in the past few years - though Artosis is carrying Tastless through in my oppinion. Axeltoss and Axlav - I can't stand Axeltoss casting. It's boring and he tells you things that are just completely wrong. He has absolutely no clue about the game. D: DoA and Montechristo: I think they are being ignored by the community while doing an awesome job. I watched their cast yesterday and it was very good, but they only had like 300 Viewers. People just appreciate their work more! the problem is, in the OSL cast, the osl casters will have zero views too and gsl will have all the casts even from outside the studio ... bad but you CANT compare the same cast running against tastetosis  so sad doa is great but ... dude tastosis !! | ||
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Ireniicas
66 Posts
Korea WCS has the best offering with Tastosis but also DOA/Montechristo are good. I do feel Tastosis should put way more emphasis on the fact it is a WCS tournament and less on the Code S aspect. WCS EU has improved markedly day on day and I now enjoy their offering a great deal. I hope whomever takes over from Todd is up to scratch. I am assuming it will be Apollo or possibly Hasuobs or Grubby if he loses today. WCS NA still has the most room for improvement although Axlav is really growing into a strong analytical caster. Axel is fair but not great and Schamtoo looks very nervous, perhaps because he is effectively on trial. I expect Rotterdam will kill it today and in general I miss NASL casters who would kill it. | ||
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ThePianoDentist
United Kingdom698 Posts
tod + kaelaris very good. I like axslav but not too keen on the na co-casters, they seem a bit bland and humourless to me (maybe its just american humour, not sure)...axslav is the guy with great game knowledge therefore his co-casters really need to have good humour. then for korea, tastosis actually grates with me nowadays, maybe its because theyve been casting for so long whenever they do filler talking about non-starcraft stuff it always feels really forced. Khaldor and wolf I think are the best caster combo in the world maybe on par with bitterdam. They both seem to have really good game knowledge, both have great passion for the game, are both pretty funny guys without it ever having to feel like forced humour....and they just seem to have great chemistry together. I know tastosis will never be 'demoted' to code A and i don't think they have done anything wrong to deserve to, but khaldor and wolf have been so impressive I would love to see the casters rotated between code A and code S. | ||
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Lorch
Germany3684 Posts
For EU it's still pretty decent. ToD is really really good nowadays, he has improved his casting a lot, and his knowledge as a pro gamer obviously helps a lot, I just wish he'd spent some time playing terran/zerg, because I feel like his protoss understanding is still way above his other two races. As for Kalaeris, well he is kinda bad but tries really hard, I just feel like he should spent way more time playing the game instead of reading twitter drama... NA is ok I guess. Axslav does an amazing job, his casting has become sooo good, in fact his solo cast was the best wcs na cast thus far imho. Schamtoo or whatever his name is is so fucking terrible though. I understand he isn't actually a starcraft guy, but I'd prefer to have axslav solo cast because shamtoo casts on a level any gold league player could (hi tb!). Axeltoss has always been decent, but given he is on vacation atm and I didn't watch much wcs na he actually casted I'm not quiet sure where he is at. I really enjoyed his casting at the mvp invitational though (kinda reminds me of chris puckett for all the old school halo people in here). If they really get rotterdam tonight that'd be great, I really love his casting. | ||
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Schelim
Austria11528 Posts
Tastosis is the best caster combo in the history of sc2, and i doubt that will ever change. Wolf and Khaldor are great too. Kaelaris and ToD work together very well, a lot better than i expected. Kaelaris tends to annoy me when he's solo casting, but the combo is great and ToD is just awesome in general. very entertaining cast too, they tend to talk a lot of shit, which i think is good cause i know enough about sc2 to not need all that much help understanding what is going on, but then ToD occasionally comes in with that pro level insight which is great too. Axeltoss is one of my least favorite casters ever. i'm sorry, but it's true. the way he talks is annoying, he shouts all over his co-caster way too much, once he starts talking it never stops and his attempts at analysis are downright dreadful. Axslav, on the other hand, is quite charismatic imo and has amazing analysis. i also have some bias towards him from war3 day. i gotta admit his voice/the way he talks is a little awkward. that Shampoo guy or whatever that casted with Axslav once made the cast much better. bring that guy back and give Axeltoss a position behind the scenes imo. | ||
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teddyoojo
Germany22369 Posts
i like eu but for eu i listen to german stream anyway so i wouldnt even be bothered if they were bad :D wolf+artosis>tastosis and khaldor is just badass anyway | ||
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Qikz
United Kingdom12022 Posts
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Bermuda
Belgium411 Posts
At GomTV, the observer got godlike skills and is doing an amazing job. He's nearly always where he should be and oftentime while the casters are talking, the mouse cursor is pointing what needs to be shown (be it an upgrade or building in the production tab, the minimap, something on the map or the money of the players). It's really like a third silent caster. If WCS EU and WCS AM want to improve, they should really look into the observing of GomTV, imo. It's so good it deserves a mention alongside the casters. | ||
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Mentalizor
Denmark1596 Posts
On May 08 2013 11:57 digmouse wrote: KR: Tastosis+Wolfdor with occasionaly Wolftosis, what can you demand more? EU: Kaelaris+ToD, good enough for me. NA: Shamtoo+Axslav > Axeltoss+Axslav. Just want to second this... KR is amazing EU is plenty good ... NA... I don't get why you don't find someone as good as you have in the other regions... No offense to the casters, but they are just not on par with the others | ||
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Baadbeat
France203 Posts
EU: Was really surprised and I feel that they are getting better and better. NA: I think that out of the three regions, this is the one that needs the most improvement but I still find the casting above par even though i think some casters are better suited than axeltoss and axlav... Overall i do find the casting good. | ||
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StillRooney
Sweden106 Posts
EU: The chemistry is getting better between Khaelaris and ToD, I like their small little jabs at eachother and sometimes the players. NA: Axslav is awkward and seems shy but his game knowledge is sound, so I'm sure he can get better. Schamtoo read situations really bad, it felt like he isn't even playing the game. I muted the stream and put on music instead. | ||
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ibo422
Belgium2844 Posts
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GaNgStaRR.ElV
Canada535 Posts
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Cel.erity
United States4890 Posts
WCS KR: Duh. Probably the two best casting duos out there. WCS EU: It's like a cool, pleasant breeze. Every time I tune in, I know I won't be annoyed, and I can just enjoy the games. No crazy shouting or ridiculous hype, just Starcraft. ToD's analysis is great, but I think his postmortems are a lot more interesting than the things he actually says on the fly. Kaeleris doesn't add a ton to the cast honestly, but he knows his role and he is eager to learn, so that's fine. WCS NA: Yeah well, I don't hate it, but I can't say I'm happy with it. It seems most people like Axslav, but I find his knowledge lacking in non-P matchups, and he has no charisma or chemistry with anyone he's paired with. He's very mopey all the time, has a poor casting voice (it does matter somewhat), and overall I don't think I could ever enjoy his casting unless he becomes more personable. I don't mind Axeltoss quite as much, he can be humorous, but he tends to cut Axslav off sometimes, and a lot of the time he'll say something wrong and Axslav won't correct him. I actually think he'd work alright with a different partner, in a lower-profile event. Neither of them is bad, but I don't feel like they're at a professional casting level. | ||
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