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Daswollvieh
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
5553 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-08 06:27:39
May 08 2013 06:25 GMT
#21
Love ToD and Kaelaris, but ToD needs to get some sleep. Seriously.

EDIT: As for NA, I find the casting to be quite uneasy, if competent, as if someone from MLG stood behind them with a gun saying: "Act professionally, act businesslike or else...". They both need to relax, especially Axeltoss.
Swords
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
6038 Posts
May 08 2013 06:32 GMT
#22
ToD and Kaelaris have been great. I always liked ToD's casting, and, now that he and Kaelaris have built up some chemistry, I've come to enjoy Kaelaris a lot as well. I think they'll only continue to improve the more they work together, but I also know ToD isn't casting the round of 16, so that's a bit disappointing.

Axeltoss and Axslav still seem a bit off. When they started casting together I figured they'd take a little time to get their chemistry together and then it'd be great - since Axel is a really great discussion facilitator and Axslav is really knowledgeable. However, it seems like the chemistry still isn't there. Sometimes they talk over each other, and it feels like they don't really have any system or roles to fit into. I'd be really curious to see what it'd be like to have two strong analysts and Axeltoss. I've seen Axel host "talk shows" before and he's great at it. I feel like a 3-man cast with him, Axslav, and another strong analyst could be great because Axel could then probe their minds and keep the cast running smoothly.
Bermuda
Profile Joined October 2010
Belgium411 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-08 06:41:48
May 08 2013 06:34 GMT
#23
WCS EU : Tod / Kaelaris are great. They complete each other very well and they have developped their own style. Nice little trash talk sometimes, but in a funny way, very subtle. Love them.

WCS KR : Well. Those casters are classics. Solid. Solid. Solid.

WCS AM : I don't want to bash but, to me, Axeltoss felt out of place. Shamtoo is doing better, his knowledge about the game is better and he knows when to pass the ball to Axslav who, in my opinion, is doing a great job and basically carrying the show all by himself.

EDIT: As for NA, I find the casting to be quite uneasy, if competent, as if someone from MLG stood behind them with a gun saying: "Act professionally, act businesslike or else...". They both need to relax, especially Axeltoss.


I have to agree with this. It would be nice if they loosen up a bit and start to enjoy the game. It's a game, have some fun, break the etiquette.

Meatloaf
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Spain664 Posts
May 08 2013 06:38 GMT
#24
the WCS America casters , its like theyre trying too hard to fall in the "serious TV sports broadcast" category , they still do a good job but the feeling I get from them is awkward compared to the rest... they look so serious and uncomfortable with the camera and each other... maybe only a personal thing.

Aside from that the casting has been great , loving it across all regions.
Bermuda
Profile Joined October 2010
Belgium411 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-08 06:39:29
May 08 2013 06:38 GMT
#25
Oops. Double posting.

virpi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Germany3599 Posts
May 08 2013 06:41 GMT
#26
eu: I like Kaelaris and ToD, even though their chemistry is not perfect yet. Still, they're providing a fun cast with a decent knowledge level.

kr: not much to say here. Tastosis are good (but not perfect), Wolf is awesome and Khaldor is okay, too. A really solid lineup.

am: Meh. Axslav knows a lot about the game and his analysis is fine most of the time, but I find it hard to listen to him. Sometimes he's mumbling / stuttering too much, but he definitely has become better during the last months. As others have already said, Shamtoo/Axslav are a good duo, while Axeltoss has been a disappointment so far. I'm still sad that we didn't get the NASL casters.
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ROOTdrewbie
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada1392 Posts
May 08 2013 06:47 GMT
#27
tod's casting is worse than his opinions on balance
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ROOTdrewbie
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada1392 Posts
May 08 2013 06:47 GMT
#28
jk <3 tod :D you are doing awesome
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Thor.Rush
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden702 Posts
May 08 2013 06:48 GMT
#29
There should be a poll for each region.. Each region is different.
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Simsons2
Profile Joined March 2013
Latvia73 Posts
May 08 2013 07:55 GMT
#30
Kaelaris is fun to watch and his appearance is similar to Boromir , enjoying their casting on EU so far 10/10, Tod felt bit passive but still during games their duo is fine to listen to.
TAMinator
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia2706 Posts
May 08 2013 08:10 GMT
#31
KR(Seen nearly all casts): Fine as per usual, their "Tasteless/Artosis ask me a question" routine gets old after a while and sometimes I wish they'd diversify how they fill in time, but solid casting, a good benchmark for other casters.

EU(2-3 days of casting seen): Kaeleris is sort of the solid caster that doesn't add much flair. ToD is improving but as other people have said, there are better options out there. Definetely would vuoch for Apollo.

NA(3-4 days of casting seen: Axslav has good analysis, lacks hyping skills. Axeltoss is sort of boring to listen to, and together with Axslav make the cast either awkward or a bit of a snooze fest. The guy subbing in Schamtoo, has a great voice, and knows when to pass the mic back to Axslav, his game knowledge from what I've seen is significantly lacking unfortunately, but given its only his first few initial casts, he has good potential once he learns the game a bit more.

For the most part, the casters are doing sufficiently well.
Resilient
Profile Joined June 2010
United Kingdom1431 Posts
May 08 2013 08:17 GMT
#32
NA casters are far too stiff. I get that MLG is the most TV-wanabee of all SC2 tournament runners but this hurts the entertainment value I feel. I feel like I'm watching News at 10 sometimes.
Not to complain about their knowledge or play by play though, that's pretty fine.
desperatechaos
Profile Joined February 2012
7 Posts
May 08 2013 08:24 GMT
#33
Anyone who saw Wolf and Artosis cast yesterday, tell me that's not superior to Tasteless and Artosis. No more pointless talks about random shit I don't care about. No more stupid jokes that aren't even that funny. No more "soooo guys we're gonna have some down time here... players are just playing standard." Actual insightful commentary and focus on the game? What a rare occurrence.

Honestly, I've been growing sick of Tasteless over the past year and a half, and I think it's high time GOMTV retired him.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-08 08:26:44
May 08 2013 08:25 GMT
#34
KR: Perfect, i guess the only way to make it god like is to have Tastosis cast Code A side too xD but it's still by far the best

EU: Kaelaris+ToD don't do anything for me im afraid, people say there good so i can't complain to much. I would of rather seen someone else given a try but the best casters from EU have gone over to NA though (TotalBiscuit Rotterdam)

NA: Like the worst one by a million miles, out of ALL the casters available in the NA region they pick arguably the worst 2 possible...Incontrol Rotterdam MrBitter TotalBiscuit Day9 Husky Frodan PainUser are all available to pick from in NA and they choose Axeltoss and Axslav 0.O
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NKB
Profile Joined February 2012
United Kingdom608 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-08 08:32:19
May 08 2013 08:30 GMT
#35
I like watching Korea because of the great casting, always going to learn something
EU has ToD casting which is really cool as you get the perspective of a pro on the game, also Kaelaris has really improved his casting over the past few months
AM I didnt really watch much of, but lately seeing Axslav and Shamtoo I am really enjoying watching the AM games,the pair works really well and you get a good understanding on what is going
Overall I can I say I am quiet happy with the casting quality of the WCS, it has been good and/or improving all round
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figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
May 08 2013 08:30 GMT
#36
I'm really happy with all the casters. No complaints here, keep up the good work, guys, and big thanks.
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Pietro
Profile Joined March 2011
Poland103 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-08 08:36:07
May 08 2013 08:31 GMT
#37
I find Kaelaris to be repeating himself a lot. With every broadcast it gets more and more annoying
Tod and Axslav do great imo. They have great game knowledge, which is what i mostly look for. Kinda sucks when they lose their words though!
Schampoo or whatever his name is i cannot stand. Do not enjoy his casting.
Still wondering why there's no .gif's going around the net of him flailing his head around during every break between games, as Axslav is talking.
Axeltoss is meh'ish. Obviously not the best choice on NA, but he's doing good enough for me to not just want to close the stream when i hear him.
Tastosis spoils me every time on GSL though, so it makes the other casters look bad :D
Overall it's not bad. Hopefully will get better with time.
SarkON
Profile Joined January 2011
Russian Federation117 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-08 08:46:01
May 08 2013 08:35 GMT
#38
ToD and Kaelaris are doing great. Great chemistry between them and very on top casting and understanding of the game.
I also think ToD has improved his English and casting skills a lot which definitely shows.

I also love how ToD is always joking and picking on Kaelaris in a good way. An Kaelaris is really responding well, creating very good entertainment for the viewers. Additionally they do just the right amount of these jokes and funny remarks and don't overdo it too much.

Keep it up guys, great work so far.
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Drake
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany6146 Posts
May 08 2013 08:38 GMT
#39
"in all regions" i cant really vote ... because its not even CLOSE the same
eu so far with kaelaris and tod are fantastic and close to korean leven while the american still seems at least 3 levels below and i think they need to switch the team (i think axeltoss need to be replaced, but thats personal oppinion but for me he makes cast boring, even moire then axslav alone)
Nb.Drake / CoL_Drake / Original Joined TL.net Tuesday, 15th of March 2005
Drake
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany6146 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-08 08:43:44
May 08 2013 08:42 GMT
#40
On May 08 2013 17:25 Pandemona wrote:
KR: Perfect, i guess the only way to make it god like is to have Tastosis cast Code A side too xD but it's still by far the best

EU: Kaelaris+ToD don't do anything for me im afraid, people say there good so i can't complain to much. I would of rather seen someone else given a try but the best casters from EU have gone over to NA though (TotalBiscuit Rotterdam)

NA: Like the worst one by a million miles, out of ALL the casters available in the NA region they pick arguably the worst 2 possible...Incontrol Rotterdam MrBitter TotalBiscuit Day9 Husky Frodan PainUser are all available to pick from in NA and they choose Axeltoss and Axslav 0.O


axlsav isnt the problem, he is just WAY TO SHY ... he needs to get opener, but you normaly have 1 analyst 1 entertainer, i dont se how axeltoss can entertain me ... he trys to go analyticvs etc and nothing full we need a full entertainer so i would say husky/tb/day9/ one of them who is an entertainer like tastless

edit: also in us they said its a surprise that jim won vs sasquatchs ... when you say something where 98% of the listeners think WTF then its just not good
Nb.Drake / CoL_Drake / Original Joined TL.net Tuesday, 15th of March 2005
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