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People_0f_Color
Profile Joined August 2010
177 Posts
May 08 2013 22:09 GMT
#101
Also, how can anyone hate the King Slayer?
Champloo
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany1850 Posts
May 08 2013 22:16 GMT
#102
Good: Artosis, Khaldor, Kaelaris, Tod
Okay: Tasteless, Wolf, Axslav
Dont like: Axeltoss, Shamtoo
CarlosOmse
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany507 Posts
May 08 2013 22:19 GMT
#103
On May 08 2013 20:57 Netsky wrote:
KR
Artosis - solid as usual. The best SC2 caster there is atm. Not really much to say.

Tasteless - I wish that Tasteless would start to learn how to play Starcraft 2 so he could contribute to the actual casting of the game. When you watch Artosis cast with Apollo, or a lesser extent Wolf, they are bouncing ideas about the game back and forth of each other. When Artosis casts with Tasteless they tend to recycle the same non-game related topics over and over again ("What's your favourite RPG? etc"). His charisma and sense of humour carry him, but he could do much better.
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/signed its like this for me for a long time i really enjoy artosis but tasteless always seemed to be very off to me metagame wise he has "no idea" and often mentions plays for a map that are not suited and stuff like this, but sill he got the "plott comedian" inside like Day does and gives a "good show" and as far as they were talking about it seemed like tasteless would be playing more SC2 since Hots was realesed
a book is like a mirror if a monkey looks into it no philosopher will look back
AwesomeFossum
Profile Joined February 2013
United States312 Posts
May 08 2013 22:21 GMT
#104
EU and KR are good. Axslav is ok and I am not a big fan of Axeltoss. Really glad Rotti is casting with Axslav today though!
"The greatest athletes of all time... Michael Jordan, Roger Federer, and SlayerSBoxer." - Artosis
Tarufuin
Profile Joined April 2010
United States33 Posts
May 08 2013 22:38 GMT
#105
I think ToD and Kaeleris have improved as a team a lot since the start of the season. They were really awkward at first, but now that they have gone through just about all the Ro32 they have started to work really well together. I probably enjoy watching WCS EU the most casually, though WCS KR is still the best for paying attention to and learning, just because of the quality of players.

Axslav does great analysis, but has trouble with play-by-play and I'm not sure Axeltoss does the best job of picking up that slack. His solo casting was definitely a strain, but Shamtoo did well in the following games; I'd love to see him in a few more series.
LeeDawg
Profile Joined April 2012
United States1306 Posts
May 08 2013 22:52 GMT
#106
I think all the casters are doing a great job. Axslav and axeltoss are fantastic and my new favorite casting duo, and WCS Korea is fantastic as always. I usually sleep during WCS europe, but what little I've caught of it has been excellent as well. keep it up guys!
:-)
dr.fahrenheit
Profile Joined January 2013
Austria101 Posts
May 08 2013 22:56 GMT
#107
WCS EU
ToD:
= Rookie of the year. I really love his style, the suit his accent and his knowledge which is deliverd by a dry subtle humor create an image of a russian mobster in a kind of cheesy fun way which is normally found in Guy Ritchie movies. This is of course only achieved by the great synergy with his co-caster which brings us to:
Kaelaris:
You can say what you like about him, but man that guy has a passion for this game which is almost unprecedented; those who disagree definitively didn't watch the WCS Qualifiers which he casted solo for like 10 hours straight... and in addition to his passion (and knowledge) I think he is the kind of caster who has the ability to find the connection to his co-caster whoever that might be (I don't know the correct term... intuition? instinct?... idk but ToD surely does owe his title "rookie of the year" to some extent to this)



The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing
Cereb
Profile Joined November 2011
Denmark3388 Posts
May 08 2013 23:02 GMT
#108
All the casters are really doing phenomenal! It's almost not fair to compare them because one pair is slightly preferable.

The EU team has been surprisingly amazing! It's almost the best duo next to the archon! But NA is really good too! Axslav is actually one of my absolute favorite casters! Game knowledge and understands how to create excitement! Something that is often sacrificed in favor of predicting / calling the game outcome and being critical of decisions!
"Until the very very top in almost anything, all that matters is how much work you put in. The only problem is most people can't work hard even at things they do enjoy, much less things they don't have a real passion for. -Greg "IdrA" Fields
Wuster
Profile Joined May 2011
1974 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-08 23:19:41
May 08 2013 23:06 GMT
#109
I probably had a poor first impression watching WCS Europe as I saw Tod and Kaelaris completely unable to predict the outcome of fights.

For example:

Thors and Hellbats run up a ramp which is defended by siege tanks and hellbats and a partial depot wall. "He's going to push up; he just has so much he's going to steamroll this defensive position."

Attack predictably stalls on the ramp: "There aren't enough tanks to keep him back!"

Attacker gets completely obliterated with all tanks left over (depot wall in shambles and hellbats all gone of course)...

I dunno, maybe they just don't know TvT (I don't think either plays Terran) so like I said maybe a poor first impression.

Also, this gem in a TvT: "He's down in the worker count, but don't forget he has mules!" (they were also on equal orbitals at the time).

That said the other match-ups I saw them cast were a lot more seamless, but these just stuck out in my mind.
mikkmagro
Profile Joined April 2011
Malta1513 Posts
May 08 2013 23:07 GMT
#110
It's such a pity that Rotti doesn't get to cast WCS all the time. No offence to Axslav and Axeltoss, but Bitterdam outclass them, and now I'm actually enjoying it. Axslav has great ingame knowledge, but he gets a bit awkward when he runs out of things to say, so him and RotterdaM pair up well.
mousesports, Team Acer, Fnatic!
StillRooney
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden106 Posts
May 09 2013 00:39 GMT
#111
Bitterdam is the best american caster combo imo, but in WCS so far Rotterdam and Axslav have been the best duo by far. Rotterdam has great comedy, light hearted anecdotes, insight in the SC2 scene, and good game knowledge, and he really makes Axslav liven up and they have this bromance thing going. Hope to see more of this!
TJ31
Profile Joined October 2012
630 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-09 01:02:30
May 09 2013 01:02 GMT
#112
KR - awesome, just awesome.
EU - it's ok, could've been better though. I would love if they had Apollo.
NA - I gave them another chance, but I just can't listen it.
Axeltoss is just a bad caster who don't understand the game at all and not even entertaining like Wheat or TB.
Axslav at least understands the game, but very painful to listen to. Maybe he's a nice guy and I have nothing against him, but he shouldn't be the caster.
That other guy, Shamtoo (maybe I spelt it wrong)... bad. I like Rotti's casting, but he's so much better when casting something less official, like HSC.
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