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So since the other thread was closed... Mainly due to over the top bias in the OP about how 'bad' the casters where, I thought I'd make another thread! Kinda hoping this one is received better overall, since I've seen a couple of 'Caster feedback' threads going around and there are a large number of different guys casting for WCS, it might be interesting!
My opinions below (in spoilers).
+ Show Spoiler + Personally I've found most of the casting fairly decent. A couple time's they have called things wrong and I've sat there thinking 'wait what?' but then they are human beings after all! Mostly its been fine for me. That is maybe my main issue imo, its been 'fine' but not amazing. I guess its hard living up to Tastosis I guess! Maybe a bit more game knowledge and more time casting/ watching games will help some of the newer casters along. I've enjoyed also in the WCS Europe casts, seeing some odd people pop up and being like 'who are they?'. Surprises can be good!
So how do you guys rate the casting so far? What have you liked so far? Funniest moments?
I'm talking all regions here - Americas/ Europe/ Korea. I've refrained from naming casters individually, mainly because chucking in a poll with peoples names brings about a certain amount of bias. Instead of this, its a general poll on the overall standard of casting and if you want to leave specific feedback, go for it in the comments!
Poll: How have you found the overall casting in all WCS regions?Fairly good (101) 38% Great, keep it up! (73) 28% Average - Could do better! (40) 15% Every night in my dreams, I dream of the casters, I feel them... (16) 6% So bad I muted them! (16) 6% Not great (15) 6% Really bad (2) 1% 263 total votes Your vote: How have you found the overall casting in all WCS regions? (Vote): Every night in my dreams, I dream of the casters, I feel them...
(Vote): Great, keep it up!
(Vote): Fairly good
(Vote): Average - Could do better!
(Vote): Not great
(Vote): Really bad
(Vote): So bad I muted them!
Poll: I feel the casters understanding of the game is:Good - Right most of the time (113) 57% Okay - Kinda 50/50 (52) 26% Excellent - Almost always right (19) 10% Not good - Wrong more often (11) 6% Really bad - Almost always wrong (5) 3% 200 total votes Your vote: I feel the casters understanding of the game is: (Vote): Excellent - Almost always right
(Vote): Good - Right most of the time
(Vote): Okay - Kinda 50/50
(Vote): Not good - Wrong more often
(Vote): Really bad - Almost always wrong
Poll: What region has the best casting so far?WCS Korea (72) 56% WCS Europe (42) 33% WCS Americas (15) 12% 129 total votes Your vote: What region has the best casting so far? (Vote): WCS Korea
(Vote): WCS Americas
(Vote): WCS Europe
(Main tournament casting thoughts could be added here laters I guess).
Cheers!
Edit - Added another poll. More in towards how you feel casters knowledge is, as opposed to how much you like the smooth sound of their voice etc 
Edit 2 - Added a 3rd poll (almost getting too many lol) since people have stated they have wildly differing opinions on different regions.
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Way too many poll options haha, especially the most positive one
The casters are good.
KR is good as usual.
EU has Kaelaris and ToD who are really good, but sometimes get on my nerves a little bit when it comes to their humor or personalities. Their gameplay analysis/play-by-play is on par.
I wasn't really a big fan of Axslav/Axeltoss, due to the vibe I got from them. I don't know, I guess I felt like they didn't go well together. Axslav/Shamtoo is really not all too bad! It's good to see MLG bring in another caster, especially one who has already contributed a lot to the community in Playhem.
All in all the casters are good, and are steadily improving in this day-to-day casting schedule, and I hope the all of them improve to the point that they are all really enjoyable, at least for me.
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On May 08 2013 11:26 vult wrote:Way too many poll options haha, especially the most positive one The casters are good. KR is good as usual. EU has Kaelaris and ToD who are really good, but sometimes get on my nerves a little bit when it comes to their humor or personalities. Their gameplay analysis/play-by-play is on par. I wasn't really a big fan of Axslav/Axeltoss, due to the vibe I got from them. I don't know, I guess I felt like they didn't go well together. Axslav/Shamtoo is really not all too bad! It's good to see MLG bring in another caster, especially one who has already contributed a lot to the community in Playhem. All in all the casters are good, and are steadily improving in this day-to-day casting schedule, and I hope the all of them improve to the point that they are all really enjoyable, at least for me.
I think tod/kaelaris are doing extremely well in terms of humor/bias when compared to how other casters (for instance artosis/tasteless are stupidly biased towards protoss/taeja/parting/innovation)
I personally think Axslav is fine but sometimes I doubt Axeltoss understanding of the game.
I also think that casters should spend most of the casting time talking about:
1) what the players can (or should) do in the near future of the game and why
2) different things that the players did when compared to the current meta game (it can be anything from tech routes to little tricks)
2) jokes
instead of:
1) what exactly is going on the screen (because we can see that)
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Shamtoo (sp?) is really good. He's voice is smooth and he doesn't yell or scream during important battles. He also doesn't make a bunch of predictions or try to do really detailed analysis, he leaves it to Axslav.
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I want ToD to cast everything.
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China6330 Posts
KR: Tastosis+Wolfdor with occasionaly Wolftosis, what can you demand more?
EU: Kaelaris+ToD, good enough for me.
NA: Shamtoo+Axslav > Axeltoss+Axslav.
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i like all the casters -- they're doing really good.
but my favorite is the kaelaris + tod combo. they were good at first - and they're getting even better. good play by play, analysis and jokes. and really good player interviews! i hope they cast more stuff together in the future.
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No idea why, but i didn't really like the MLG casters. Don't know if they rubbed me wrong or something, but for me it was just boring to watch/hear them.
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I like the way Axslav and Shamtoo work, they both seem to know their separate roles (analyst and commentator)
ToD and Kaelaris, imo, are hilarious
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On May 08 2013 11:37 Dudasc wrote:
I think tod/kaelaris are doing extremely well in terms of humor/bias when compared to how other casters (for instance artosis/tasteless are stupidly biased towards protoss/taeja/parting/innovation)
I personally think Axslav is fine but sometimes I doubt Axeltoss understanding of the game.
I also think that casters should spend most of the casting time talking about:
1) what the players can (or should) do in the near future of the game and why
2) different things that the players did when compared to the current meta game (it can be anything from tech routes to little tricks)
2) jokes
instead of:
1) what exactly is going on the screen (because we can see that)
There's a lot of controversy over this, a lot of want to hear the play by play most of the time. A lot of other people hate when casters make predictions. That's why some casting teams have fallen into the idea of having one person really good at play by play, who then sends it over to the analyst whenever there is nothing going on.
Some people also get really pissed off when a lot of jokes are told, because they expect them to " be paying attention to the game"
Long story short, there's no clear cut thing casters Should Do, cause you can't please everybody.
If you want to learn more about casting you should check out feardragon's opinion on the whole thing, I think he's plannign on writing a couple of blogs: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=411524
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Bisutopia19271 Posts
When you consider the number of hours straight that mlg casters did it I was pretty impressed with it overall.
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Poor Axeltoss, takes a vacation, and returns to find out the community likes his fill-in better :\
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They are all really good, been missing Axeltoss though! Ax^2 is pretty good.
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ToD is just awful. He may know game but not about casting anything...its horrible. And they can't give you any spirit if you know what I mean.
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I like all of it so far. I'm not the most discerning person when it comes to caster issues, I never really have issues with casters until they say things that are egregriously dumb. So far I've really enjoyed WCS, the games and the casting. All the pairs are aweome and I have no issues. I especially like Axslav and Axel, or really those two paired with anyone. I find that I just generally think the two's great knowledge of the game paired with some funny sides really works. Side note, ToD is hilarious lol.
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Not sold on WCS AM yet... but I like the other regions. Tod + Kaelaris has been a great surprise.
Polls are pretty silly though. It's only 'fairly good' cause I don't like AM, but there's no option for me to say that.
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Have really been only to watch a decent amount of the American WCS and I have been enjoying it. Nice job Axel and Axslav.
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Yeah the poll options suck.
NA: I'm a big fan of Axslav, but Axeltoss I can do without. Shamtoo did a better job providing the "excitment" than Axeltoss did in the two games I saw of him. That said, given the chance I'd want to see the NASL casting crews. Or TB+Axslav.
Europe : Kaelaris + ToD are great. Feel free to sub in Apollo for either of them because he's THE MAN.
Asia : I still feel tastosis is/are overrated (but really good) and wolf+khaldor are rock solid too.
Overall a great lineup. I don't even think Axeltoss is bad. I'd give him a 5/10, but compared to everyone else in the 7-8.5 range, he is the weakest of the bunch.
Edit : Corrected a comment to make it clearer I'm a huge Apollo fanboy.
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NA: IPL casters were more exciting and fun to listen to. MLG casters so far as just... bleh worst out of all 3. They should have used NASL casters. Or maybe even Day[9]! I'd actually have more fun watching Husky and HD cast over MLG casters.
EU: Kaelaris is decent, but there's better choices out there to pair him up with. I'd take Appolo and TB. Not sure who else is a good caster in EU aside them though.
KR. Need I say more? Mecca of eSports = mecca of casting. Nothing can beat them. Ya there's a bit of bias, but when you have a strong player, well anyone's gonna be biased to them winning the match.
Overall, like WCS, the casting quality depends on the region just like the quality of games and how the tournament is run, generally speaking.
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ToD is a great caster (i especially like his accent), Kaelaris is decent (however he needs to up his game knowledge alittle bit, so he doesn't say something stupid)
Axelav is doing great casting imho (his solo casting felt really good)
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