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On November 14 2011 00:53 AZKziek wrote:Show nested quote +On November 13 2011 20:00 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
My bad this was posted before it all happened. I hope Lof runs. Basing the entire AZK Team off of an event that has no solid proof that there was any fraudulent behavior. Your support is truly breathtaking.
gtfo - Like really? Your own team member just posted that the team has disbanded! Don't you see what has happened? Man the fuck up and either dismiss these credible sources that say that you fucked up bigtime, or give us your version of the story! Alot of people with a ton more credability and goodwill in the community than you have, seem to think you have alot to answer for!
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Hmm Team AZK should prolly disband asap.
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On November 14 2011 00:53 AZKziek wrote:Show nested quote +On November 13 2011 20:00 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
My bad this was posted before it all happened. I hope Lof runs. Basing the entire AZK Team off of an event that has no solid proof that there was any fraudulent behavior. Your support is truly breathtaking.
The best thing you guys could do is just remake the clan. Your name will always be associated with the scandal, just like how WeRRa was tarnished Korea.
On November 14 2011 00:59 ELA wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2011 00:53 AZKziek wrote:On November 13 2011 20:00 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
My bad this was posted before it all happened. I hope Lof runs. Basing the entire AZK Team off of an event that has no solid proof that there was any fraudulent behavior. Your support is truly breathtaking. gtfo - Like really? Your own team member just posted that the team has disbanded! Don't you see what has happened? Man the fuck up and either dismiss these credible sources that say that you fucked up bigtime, or give us your version of the story! Alot of people with a ton more credability and goodwill in the community than you have, seem to think you have alot to answer for!
Wait what? They did disband?
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On November 14 2011 01:06 garlicface wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2011 00:53 AZKziek wrote:On November 13 2011 20:00 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
My bad this was posted before it all happened. I hope Lof runs. Basing the entire AZK Team off of an event that has no solid proof that there was any fraudulent behavior. Your support is truly breathtaking. The best thing you guys could do is just remake the clan. Your name will always be associated with the scandal, just like how WeRRa was tarnished Korea. Show nested quote +On November 14 2011 00:59 ELA wrote:On November 14 2011 00:53 AZKziek wrote:On November 13 2011 20:00 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
My bad this was posted before it all happened. I hope Lof runs. Basing the entire AZK Team off of an event that has no solid proof that there was any fraudulent behavior. Your support is truly breathtaking. gtfo - Like really? Your own team member just posted that the team has disbanded! Don't you see what has happened? Man the fuck up and either dismiss these credible sources that say that you fucked up bigtime, or give us your version of the story! Alot of people with a ton more credability and goodwill in the community than you have, seem to think you have alot to answer for! Wait what? They did disband?
On November 14 2011 00:20 Licmyobelisk wrote:
actually team azk is disbanded, some of us are scattered and teamless (I myself consider having no team association due to the amount of stress)
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On November 14 2011 00:53 AZKziek wrote:Show nested quote +On November 13 2011 20:00 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
My bad this was posted before it all happened. I hope Lof runs. Basing the entire AZK Team off of an event that has no solid proof that there was any fraudulent behavior. Your support is truly breathtaking.
Last report from TheGunRun is that he and Amanda still haven't been paid back. Whether Gus was intentionally fraudulent or just a complete moron, the guy running your team fucked things up really bad and still hasn't even fully explained everything. Are you guys still a team? Guy posting before you says you're disbanded. If you are still a team, is Gus still in charge? If he is, can you understand why people think that partnering with your team is a horrible idea right now? You can't expect support until you fix things or disassociate yourself from Gus.
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I wasn't looking for support, I'm just sick of every no name random commenting on the issue, when they know absolutely nothing, they're just hopping on the bandwagon because it's what everyone else is doing.
There's no actual `proof` of fraudulent behavior yet, and until there is lay off it, honestly.
Gus has been super busy as he also has a full time job to attend to (that has crazy hours), and has restricted his availability.
Until everything is finished, there's absolutely no reason to give anyone "updates" on what's happening.
The only people that matter to it are the sponsors and staff of the event, no random scrub from the community that derps along with everyone else, and their stupid rumors.
Sure, there was a few things that happened (With YJY, and Team Cube players), and they will all be explained fully once the more important things are chased up.
Until then, lay off.
EDIT: I'm not going to argue with anyone anymore on this thread, take it or leave it. I don't give a flying f*ck what you think. Follow the rumors / false accusations all you want.
When the truth comes out you're just going to look pathetic.
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On November 14 2011 01:37 AZKziek wrote:
I wasn't looking for support, I'm just sick of every no name random commenting on the issue, when they know absolutely nothing, they're just hopping on the bandwagon because it's what everyone else is doing.
There's no actual `proof` of fraudulent behavior yet, and until there is lay off it, honestly.
Gus has been super busy as he also has a full time job to attend to (that has crazy hours), and has restricted his availability.
Until everything is finished, there's absolutely no reason to give anyone "updates" on what's happening.
The only people that matter to it are the sponsors and staff of the event, no random scrub from the community that derps along with everyone else, and their stupid rumors.
Sure, there was a few things that happened (With YJY, and Team Cube players), and they will all be explained fully once the more important things are chased up.
Until then, lay off.
EDIT: I'm not going to argue with anyone anymore on this thread, take it or leave it. I don't give a flying f*ck what you think. Follow the rumors / false accusations all you want.
When the truth comes out you're just going to look pathetic.
Makes no sense. You yourself wanted to comment on the entire situation on State of the Game. Explain.
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On November 14 2011 01:37 AZKziek wrote:
I wasn't looking for support, I'm just sick of every no name random commenting on the issue, when they know absolutely nothing, they're just hopping on the bandwagon because it's what everyone else is doing.
There's no actual `proof` of fraudulent behavior yet, and until there is lay off it, honestly.
Gus has been super busy as he also has a full time job to attend to (that has crazy hours), and has restricted his availability.
Until everything is finished, there's absolutely no reason to give anyone "updates" on what's happening.
The only people that matter to it are the sponsors and staff of the event, no random scrub from the community that derps along with everyone else, and their stupid rumors.
Sure, there was a few things that happened (With YJY, and Team Cube players), and they will all be explained fully once the more important things are chased up.
Until then, lay off.
EDIT: I'm not going to argue with anyone anymore on this thread, take it or leave it. I don't give a flying f*ck what you think. Follow the rumors / false accusations all you want.
When the truth comes out you're just going to look pathetic.
At least stop talking about yourself in third person, like you're someone else Gus - It's pretty pathetic
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I hope Lof runs as welll.
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On November 14 2011 01:42 ELA wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2011 01:37 AZKziek wrote:
I wasn't looking for support, I'm just sick of every no name random commenting on the issue, when they know absolutely nothing, they're just hopping on the bandwagon because it's what everyone else is doing.
There's no actual `proof` of fraudulent behavior yet, and until there is lay off it, honestly.
Gus has been super busy as he also has a full time job to attend to (that has crazy hours), and has restricted his availability.
Until everything is finished, there's absolutely no reason to give anyone "updates" on what's happening.
The only people that matter to it are the sponsors and staff of the event, no random scrub from the community that derps along with everyone else, and their stupid rumors.
Sure, there was a few things that happened (With YJY, and Team Cube players), and they will all be explained fully once the more important things are chased up.
Until then, lay off.
EDIT: I'm not going to argue with anyone anymore on this thread, take it or leave it. I don't give a flying f*ck what you think. Follow the rumors / false accusations all you want.
When the truth comes out you're just going to look pathetic. At least stop talking about yourself in third person, like you're someone else Gus - It's pretty pathetic
Lol... this guy is Gus? Or are you just joking / suspecting?
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On November 14 2011 01:37 AZKziek wrote:
I wasn't looking for support, I'm just sick of every no name random commenting on the issue, when they know absolutely nothing, they're just hopping on the bandwagon because it's what everyone else is doing.
There's no actual `proof` of fraudulent behavior yet, and until there is lay off it, honestly.
Gus has been super busy as he also has a full time job to attend to (that has crazy hours), and has restricted his availability.
Until everything is finished, there's absolutely no reason to give anyone "updates" on what's happening.
The only people that matter to it are the sponsors and staff of the event, no random scrub from the community that derps along with everyone else, and their stupid rumors.
Sure, there was a few things that happened (With YJY, and Team Cube players), and they will all be explained fully once the more important things are chased up.
Until then, lay off.
EDIT: I'm not going to argue with anyone anymore on this thread, take it or leave it. I don't give a flying f*ck what you think. Follow the rumors / false accusations all you want.
When the truth comes out you're just going to look pathetic.
This situation is so confusing. Are you Gus? What is this.
Is this real life?
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On November 14 2011 01:37 AZKziek wrote:
I wasn't looking for support, I'm just sick of every no name random commenting on the issue, when they know absolutely nothing, they're just hopping on the bandwagon because it's what everyone else is doing.
There's no actual `proof` of fraudulent behavior yet, and until there is lay off it, honestly.
Gus has been super busy as he also has a full time job to attend to (that has crazy hours), and has restricted his availability.
Until everything is finished, there's absolutely no reason to give anyone "updates" on what's happening.
The only people that matter to it are the sponsors and staff of the event, no random scrub from the community that derps along with everyone else, and their stupid rumors.
Sure, there was a few things that happened (With YJY, and Team Cube players), and they will all be explained fully once the more important things are chased up.
Until then, lay off.
EDIT: I'm not going to argue with anyone anymore on this thread, take it or leave it. I don't give a flying f*ck what you think. Follow the rumors / false accusations all you want.
When the truth comes out you're just going to look pathetic.
Given the immense fallout and irreparable damage to your organization's reputation this entire event is having, if there is another side to this story, I'm actually pretty surprised that you aren't placing a higher priority on damage control. I doubt anyone is going to feel "pathetic" even if this all turns out to be sensationalism. In fact, I'm sure most of us would be happy if that were the case considering the implications the alternative would have for lots of innocent people.
At any rate, I look forward to hearing an official statement from your organization regarding all of the controversy along with a clear plan for what changes you plan to implement in the future to prevent this kind of thing from ever happening again. I do hope this is all being blown out of proportion and that people aren't on the hook for large sums of money or looking at prospective prison time, but with the silence from your side, I don't think you can fault people for suspecting otherwise since all of the statements from sources involved released so far seem to point directly in that direction.
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On November 14 2011 01:42 ELA wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2011 01:37 AZKziek wrote:
I wasn't looking for support, I'm just sick of every no name random commenting on the issue, when they know absolutely nothing, they're just hopping on the bandwagon because it's what everyone else is doing.
There's no actual `proof` of fraudulent behavior yet, and until there is lay off it, honestly.
Gus has been super busy as he also has a full time job to attend to (that has crazy hours), and has restricted his availability.
Until everything is finished, there's absolutely no reason to give anyone "updates" on what's happening.
The only people that matter to it are the sponsors and staff of the event, no random scrub from the community that derps along with everyone else, and their stupid rumors.
Sure, there was a few things that happened (With YJY, and Team Cube players), and they will all be explained fully once the more important things are chased up.
Until then, lay off.
EDIT: I'm not going to argue with anyone anymore on this thread, take it or leave it. I don't give a flying f*ck what you think. Follow the rumors / false accusations all you want.
When the truth comes out you're just going to look pathetic. At least stop talking about yourself in third person, like you're someone else Gus - It's pretty pathetic
He's not Gus, but apparently he knows what went down 'behind the scenes'.
What's confusing about his post is how he's insulting the people who weren't involved in the incident, saying they're 'no name randoms' (that pretty much translates to 'scrubs'), hopping on a bandwagon.
So, by his logic, people who don't actually know what went down shouldn't talk at all.
Yet he requested several times to speak on State of the Game about the issue. From that I can assume that he's NOT a 'no name random', and he's definitely NOT someone who just wanted to get on State of the Game to boost his fame, and that he actually knows what went down.
So... why haven't you commented on your own accord? Clear some shit up?
No offense, but I'm pretty sure I'm makin' sense here. Or is there something else?
On November 14 2011 01:54 tsuxiit wrote:
This situation is so confusing. Are you Gus? What is this.
Is this real life?
No, he's not. But he claims to be one of the few people who truly know what went down.
On November 14 2011 01:52 Roggay wrote:
Lol... this guy is Gus? Or are you just joking / suspecting?
Definitely one or the other. Or both.
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Why so much AZK hate? I thought it was just this ONE Gus guy who's on AZK and messed up everything including biased treatment for fellow AZK members. The rest of the team had nothing to do with it, right? I thought AZK was pretty legit, don't they have  viOlet?
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On November 14 2011 01:37 AZKziek wrote:
I wasn't looking for support, I'm just sick of every no name random commenting on the issue, when they know absolutely nothing, they're just hopping on the bandwagon because it's what everyone else is doing.
There's no actual `proof` of fraudulent behavior yet, and until there is lay off it, honestly.
Gus has been super busy as he also has a full time job to attend to (that has crazy hours), and has restricted his availability.
Until everything is finished, there's absolutely no reason to give anyone "updates" on what's happening.
The only people that matter to it are the sponsors and staff of the event, no random scrub from the community that derps along with everyone else, and their stupid rumors.
Sure, there was a few things that happened (With YJY, and Team Cube players), and they will all be explained fully once the more important things are chased up.
Until then, lay off.
EDIT: I'm not going to argue with anyone anymore on this thread, take it or leave it. I don't give a flying f*ck what you think. Follow the rumors / false accusations all you want.
When the truth comes out you're just going to look pathetic.
Are you delusional? Nobody is hopping on the bandwagon because that's what everyone is doing - it is more like everyone is outraged at the whole mess and voicing their frustration with that. The accusations are not made out of thin air, which is what you get when you read the various threads, but coming from people involved.
Saying that only sponsors and staff matter is simply wrong because sponsors usually expect something in return for their money and it sure as hell is not bad press, community outrage and failure to organize an event properly (ask IPL...). Thus by ignoring the concerns of the community, you are shooting yourself in the foot.
Everybody is eagerly awaiting a detailed response and explanation of Gus about whole ordeal and I'd wager the chances of a "truth" coming out making people look pathetic are slim to none.
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On November 14 2011 01:37 AZKziek wrote:
I wasn't looking for support, I'm just sick of every no name random commenting on the issue, when they know absolutely nothing, they're just hopping on the bandwagon because it's what everyone else is doing.
There's no actual `proof` of fraudulent behavior yet, and until there is lay off it, honestly.
Gus has been super busy as he also has a full time job to attend to (that has crazy hours), and has restricted his availability.
Until everything is finished, there's absolutely no reason to give anyone "updates" on what's happening.
The only people that matter to it are the sponsors and staff of the event, no random scrub from the community that derps along with everyone else, and their stupid rumors.
Sure, there was a few things that happened (With YJY, and Team Cube players), and they will all be explained fully once the more important things are chased up.
Until then, lay off.
EDIT: I'm not going to argue with anyone anymore on this thread, take it or leave it. I don't give a flying f*ck what you think. Follow the rumors / false accusations all you want.
When the truth comes out you're just going to look pathetic.
We just don't like helpful people to go to jail because of your 'busy' boss. It would be nice to actually be informed on this shitty situation.
Signed,
Your unimportant random.
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On November 14 2011 01:57 Warlock40 wrote:Why so much AZK hate? I thought it was just this ONE Gus guy who's on AZK and messed up everything including biased treatment for fellow AZK members. The rest of the team had nothing to do with it, right? I thought AZK was pretty legit, don't they have viOlet?
No they don't. Violet wore the tag just so that he could participate in that qualifer. His twitter already declares otherwise. That's similar to how moonglade nearly wore the tag too, just that he found it too fishy.
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On November 14 2011 01:56 Xpace wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2011 01:42 ELA wrote:On November 14 2011 01:37 AZKziek wrote:
I wasn't looking for support, I'm just sick of every no name random commenting on the issue, when they know absolutely nothing, they're just hopping on the bandwagon because it's what everyone else is doing.
There's no actual `proof` of fraudulent behavior yet, and until there is lay off it, honestly.
Gus has been super busy as he also has a full time job to attend to (that has crazy hours), and has restricted his availability.
Until everything is finished, there's absolutely no reason to give anyone "updates" on what's happening.
The only people that matter to it are the sponsors and staff of the event, no random scrub from the community that derps along with everyone else, and their stupid rumors.
Sure, there was a few things that happened (With YJY, and Team Cube players), and they will all be explained fully once the more important things are chased up.
Until then, lay off.
EDIT: I'm not going to argue with anyone anymore on this thread, take it or leave it. I don't give a flying f*ck what you think. Follow the rumors / false accusations all you want.
When the truth comes out you're just going to look pathetic. At least stop talking about yourself in third person, like you're someone else Gus - It's pretty pathetic He's not Gus, but apparently he knows what went down ' behind the scenes'. What's confusing about his post is how he's insulting the people who weren't involved in the incident, saying they're ' no name randoms' (that pretty much translates to 'scrubs'), hopping on a bandwagon. So, by his logic, people who don't actually know what went down shouldn't talk at all. Yet he requested several times to speak on State of the Game about the issue. From that I can assume that he's NOT a ' no name random', and he's definitely NOT someone who just wanted to get on State of the Game to boost his fame, and that he actually knows what went down. So... why haven't you commented on your own accord? Clear some shit up? No offense, but I'm pretty sure I'm makin' sense here. Or is there something else? Show nested quote +On November 14 2011 01:54 tsuxiit wrote:
This situation is so confusing. Are you Gus? What is this.
Is this real life?
No, he's not. But he claims to be one of the few people who truly know what went down. Show nested quote +On November 14 2011 01:52 Roggay wrote:
Lol... this guy is Gus? Or are you just joking / suspecting? Definitely one or the other. Or both.
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Gus: I'll give the details right now! But I lost my mic so I can't!
AZKiek: No one is going the details until later on!
Whoops looks like you two are saying two completely different things. Jeez can't you guys get your stories straight?
Edit: Wow, whoops, looks like Gus has problems getting his own story to match. Multiple personality disorder? Looks like even his split personalities can't get their/his stories straight.
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On November 14 2011 02:02 ELA wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2011 01:56 Xpace wrote:On November 14 2011 01:42 ELA wrote:On November 14 2011 01:37 AZKziek wrote:
I wasn't looking for support, I'm just sick of every no name random commenting on the issue, when they know absolutely nothing, they're just hopping on the bandwagon because it's what everyone else is doing.
There's no actual `proof` of fraudulent behavior yet, and until there is lay off it, honestly.
Gus has been super busy as he also has a full time job to attend to (that has crazy hours), and has restricted his availability.
Until everything is finished, there's absolutely no reason to give anyone "updates" on what's happening.
The only people that matter to it are the sponsors and staff of the event, no random scrub from the community that derps along with everyone else, and their stupid rumors.
Sure, there was a few things that happened (With YJY, and Team Cube players), and they will all be explained fully once the more important things are chased up.
Until then, lay off.
EDIT: I'm not going to argue with anyone anymore on this thread, take it or leave it. I don't give a flying f*ck what you think. Follow the rumors / false accusations all you want.
When the truth comes out you're just going to look pathetic. At least stop talking about yourself in third person, like you're someone else Gus - It's pretty pathetic He's not Gus, but apparently he knows what went down ' behind the scenes'. What's confusing about his post is how he's insulting the people who weren't involved in the incident, saying they're ' no name randoms' (that pretty much translates to 'scrubs'), hopping on a bandwagon. So, by his logic, people who don't actually know what went down shouldn't talk at all. Yet he requested several times to speak on State of the Game about the issue. From that I can assume that he's NOT a ' no name random', and he's definitely NOT someone who just wanted to get on State of the Game to boost his fame, and that he actually knows what went down. So... why haven't you commented on your own accord? Clear some shit up? No offense, but I'm pretty sure I'm makin' sense here. Or is there something else? On November 14 2011 01:54 tsuxiit wrote:
This situation is so confusing. Are you Gus? What is this.
Is this real life?
No, he's not. But he claims to be one of the few people who truly know what went down. On November 14 2011 01:52 Roggay wrote:
Lol... this guy is Gus? Or are you just joking / suspecting? Definitely one or the other. Or both. Dude... It's Gus... http://sea.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/163736469#19http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=3398¤tpage=229#4810gg
That doesn't really prove anything?
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