Blizzard warns HuK/TLO for account sharing - Page 29

I'm not a lawyer but i don't think that what you talk about is really a contract. Anyway, i'm sure blizzard have good lawyers and they know that putting url to box is enough. Also, please stop posting with lists, it makes you sound disrespectful.

On June 25 2011 06:22 RedHelix wrote:
I think they should ban everyone in the GSTL for sharing their team accounts, no exceptions right, blizzard?

On June 25 2011 06:17 Naphal wrote:
the guy from blizzard was set up!

troll: "hey look TLO is playing!"

victim: "SERIOUSLY OMFG!" <-------- giant TLOfan

*turns on sound*

commentary: "great probe harrass from HUK!"

victim: "FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!"

*gets phone* ...

On June 25 2011 06:23 chickenhawk wrote:


Sorry for posting with lists... its the way I normally think and organize my ideas will try to change.
For the TOS to be legally binding it must be a contract. And no it is not legal to say that the contract must be found somewhere and not at the place where you are going to make a purchase. Do you not find that odd? That a contract is not found at the place where you are going to buy something?

On June 25 2011 03:20 chickenhawk wrote:


TOS in europe = illegal

Any contract you sign after you have bought something in europe is illegal! No one show me the TOS when i bought it, they only show me when i tryed to play the game. THEREFORE it is ILLEGAL.

On June 25 2011 03:23 oBlade wrote:

An EULA that you get to read after you put a $60 charge on your credit card that tells you exactly how you can use the product? And you are fine believing that this agreement would be 100% accurate, 100% legal, not subject to dispute, or abuse by the organization who wrote it? That's fine, but I'll take my rights as they've been demonstrated by people taking trash EULAs to court for years.

On June 25 2011 06:08 jinorazi wrote:
stop defending blizzard/activition. when they deserve criticism, it must be given. i hope TLO/HUK continues what they do, because it'll cause more negativity towards blizzard rather than the players if this issue escalates.

edit: its not the player's fault for not following ToS agreement, the fault is in blizzard's decision to put that in ToS. we, the gamers have no choice to just click on the "accept" button to play the game. i personally dont give a damn whats written on the ToS, i just care about scrolling down, click "accept" and play the game.

On June 25 2011 06:40 Tula wrote:
This thread is a classic example of "a little knowledge is a very dangerous thing".

Let me add some more knowledge, it is true that a contract is not binding until you have read it and agreed to it. It is also true that you can buy SC2 without reading the EULA and TOS. What happens if you buy the game and then read something in the EULA you do not agree with? You uninstall/click decline and can return the product and get your money back.
What you cannot do is click accept and then break it. Or rather you can obviously do so, but you have no legal recourse if Blizzard finds out and bans you.

Sadly i lack some of the english terminology to make my point 100% clear, but i hope i got the main meaning across. Legislation and Jurisdiction are pretty clear on this topic, if you refuse the EULA or TOS for whatever reasons, you can rescind your contract ("vom Vertrag zurücktreten"), meaning you give the game back to whichever shop you bought it from, and they have to take it back and give you your money, you do not "gain" any rights against Blizzard unless their contract is in some way illegal (which would be settled by a class lawsuit from a consumer protection organisation). I haven't read the EULA in a while, but the clauses were clear and understandable at launch and to my knowledge they haven't changed since then.

Anyway, after that lengthy excurse into law, let me just add that i personally agree it's pretty stupid to make a stink about pro gamers who share their account, since they are their best publicity at the moment. Even if they want to protect their ladder, they should have solved it with a simple email to the account owner without raising such a fuss. (Something along the lines of: "please don't do this since the ladder is important etc.") Calling a tournament organiser about something like this seems uncessary and rather over the top.

On June 25 2011 03:51 splinter9 wrote:


im not sure if your fully aware but there are countries outside of the USA that even write there own laws . They also have computers and can play starcraft. On further thought neither of these players are even american, so im not sure how much of what you said applies here.

On June 25 2011 06:40 Tula wrote:
This thread is a classic example of "a little knowledge is a very dangerous thing".

Let me add some more knowledge, it is true that a contract is not binding until you have read it and agreed to it. It is also true that you can buy SC2 without reading the EULA and TOS. What happens if you buy the game and then read something in the EULA you do not agree with? You uninstall/click decline and can return the product and get your money back.
What you cannot do is click accept and then break it. Or rather you can obviously do so, but you have no legal recourse if Blizzard finds out and bans you.

Sadly i lack some of the english terminology to make my point 100% clear, but i hope i got the main meaning across. Legislation and Jurisdiction are pretty clear on this topic, if you refuse the EULA or TOS for whatever reasons, you can rescind your contract ("vom Vertrag zurücktreten"), meaning you give the game back to whichever shop you bought it from, and they have to take it back and give you your money, you do not "gain" any rights against Blizzard unless their contract is in some way illegal (which would be settled by a class lawsuit from a consumer protection organisation). I haven't read the EULA in a while, but the clauses were clear and understandable at launch and to my knowledge they haven't changed since then.

Anyway, after that lengthy excurse into law, let me just add that i personally agree it's pretty stupid to make a stink about pro gamers who share their account, since they are their best publicity at the moment. Even if they want to protect their ladder, they should have solved it with a simple email to the account owner without raising such a fuss. (Something along the lines of: "please don't do this since the ladder is important etc.") Calling a tournament organiser about something like this seems uncessary and rather over the top.

On June 25 2011 00:48 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
Its a lot longer than 15 minutes, Huk can search for hours without finding a game on both EU and US. Its the most absurd and petty warning I have ever seen.

On June 25 2011 00:58 Strike_ wrote:
Blizzard respect -10000000

On June 25 2011 01:04 iNcontroL wrote:
But when blizzard calls them up and asks em not to and then threatens action they get a huge PR mess...