EPTBlizzard warns HuK/TLO for account sharing - Page 28
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Pleiades
United States472 Posts
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Gobbles
Canada91 Posts
On June 25 2011 06:00 Sina92 wrote: Hey you naive fanboys! Blizzard has to warn them. 20k+ people are watching the pros play live and if they see that HuK & TLO are sharing accounts, they might think it is OK, because the pros do it. Since they set examples it is extra important that they follow the Blizzard ToS. We might think its OK because it is OK. Buy a video game my friends cant play? Yea right. If we are playing and swapping out game for game we sure as hell aren't going to swap accounts every time even though we have them. Its stupid. Pirating is illegal, sharing isn't. | ||
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Golgotha
Korea (South)8418 Posts
On June 25 2011 05:57 IcedBacon wrote: Laddering on other peoples' accounts is just dumb. Use it for customs and no one cares. apparently blizzard cares bro. | ||
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jinorazi
Korea (South)4948 Posts
starcraft 2 is not made with the same people that was behind starcraft: brood war. they will have different standards and that standard is set with money as priority. their claim(why it is reasonable-) to not haveLAN, limited region play, and no multiple account, etc. are fallacies that many intelligent people in this community can stomp down. stop defending blizzard/activition. when they deserve criticism, it must be given. i hope TLO/HUK continues what they do, because it'll cause more negativity towards blizzard rather than the players if this issue escalates. edit: its not the player's fault for not following ToS agreement, the fault is in blizzard's decision to put that in ToS. we, the gamers have no choice to just click on the "accept" button to play the game. i personally dont give a damn whats written on the ToS, i just care about scrolling down, click "accept" and play the game. cheating, hacking, unethical stuff, etc is a separate issue and it doesnt matter if it is stated on the ToS or not. | ||
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RoyalCheese
Czech Republic745 Posts
On June 25 2011 06:00 chickenhawk wrote: 1- Contract must be done before purchase 2- Saying that there will be a contract or that it can me found somewhere is irrelevant I'm not a lawyer but i don't think that what you talk about is really a contract. Anyway, i'm sure blizzard have good lawyers and they know that putting url to box is enough. Also, please stop posting with lists, it makes you sound disrespectful. | ||
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Gospadin
United States84 Posts
On June 25 2011 00:46 moltenlead wrote: If they do this, there will be some kind of community revolt. You can't expect pros to shell out 60*4 or whatever to get all the regions so that they can play. The ball is in Blizzard's court for this one, and they have a pretty small margin of error. I expect pros or their sponsors to shell out $240 to be pros. | ||
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TheGreenBee
64 Posts
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Shockk
Germany2269 Posts
On June 25 2011 06:10 TheGreenBee wrote: Fuck Activision Blizzard and their greedy EULA!! TLO bought the game; he can lend it to whoever the hell he wants!!!! :D If he agreed to a document that said it's not OK then he can't, that's the point. I don't like it, I also think that there should be LAN and the a lot of other things should be different - but if you agree to play by Blizzard's rules then don't be surprised when they're enforced. Especially when it's about "role models" with tens of thousands of online viewers. | ||
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PlosionCornu
Italy814 Posts
On June 25 2011 06:08 Gobbles wrote: We might think its OK because it is OK. Buy a video game my friends cant play? Yea right. If we are playing and swapping out game for game we sure as hell aren't going to swap accounts every time even though we have them. Its stupid. Pirating is illegal, sharing isn't. Apparently you are wrong, because when you buy a car you buy the whole car. And it's yours, and yours alone, and you can even resell it because it belongs to you and noone else. (well the government can take it from you if you disregard road rules that bad, but w/e) For software related goods it does not work like this. When you buy any software it belongs to it's creator, always, forever (until they recede its possession), you are only buying a license to use it. At least that's from what I can understand | ||
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Gobbles
Canada91 Posts
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Arcanne
United States1519 Posts
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Mohdoo
United States15686 Posts
On June 25 2011 06:10 TheGreenBee wrote: Fuck Activision Blizzard and their greedy EULA!! TLO bought the game; he can lend it to whoever the hell he wants!!!! :D Playing custom games, sure, but laddering makes things different because of the GM league. Qualifiers may be determined by GM ranking, so sharing accounts to ladder is a big deal and Blizzard has banned people for doing so in the WC3 pro-ladder as well. I don't think Blizzard's warning was because of purely custom games. I am pretty sure HuK was also laddering. | ||
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Naphal
Germany2099 Posts
troll: "hey look TLO is playing!" victim: "SERIOUSLY OMFG!" <-------- giant TLOfan *turns on sound* commentary: "great probe harrass from HUK!" victim: "FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!" *gets phone* ... | ||
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IcedBacon
Canada906 Posts
HuK was laddering on the account bro, learn to read the thread. Accounts were shared in all the early tournaments and even some recent ones and nothing happened. Not going to repeat myself again, just stay away from laddering on someone's account and no one cares. | ||
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Steel
Japan2283 Posts
Hopefully just trolling... | ||
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Criptos
Canada128 Posts
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Sinborn
United States275 Posts
On June 25 2011 06:06 HoldenR wrote: This really depends on how the law would be interpreted in the eyes of a European court. I, for example, don't own an Iphone/smart phone. However, it would be assumed that if one was willing to buy the product they would go home, visit the URL and read the contract. That would hold. However, what I do know is from the few law classes I've followed, is that a EULA basically never holds when it says "We hold the right to revoke your license at any time, for any reason". Basically, what they need is justification, and if it's not given then the entire document is thrown out. Even if it was not considered unreasonably burdensome to go home to your computer, visit the URL(that you should remember because you can't take the box with you!), read the contract and then return to purchase the product(it probably wouldn't, though), the terms themselves are considered unreasonably burdensome. Almost always. It's because EULAs are usually extremely draconic in what they provide for what you buy. It can best be translated as saying this, basically. "We are offering a service, but can't be held liable if this service is not available, and if at any point, for any reason, we see fit to deny you this service, we will". Then again, I haven't read the full document, but since video games basically have this requirement in there almost always, a proper lawyer would probably get them dismissed from court. I was just taking a jab at the fact that you didn't consider smartphones. It was well worth it. However, your second point can be explored. The example you give is not a reasonable one given that the ability to control a service by excluding accounts is part of a reasonable, standard practice of the game industry. The ability to lock you out is neither excessive nor unnecessary. You are presenting a situation that may be abused, but the utility behind having such a clause is necessary for maintaining the service itself. The alternative is a game where you simply cannot ban in an expeditious manner. | ||
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Oxslow
United Kingdom42 Posts
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Rayansaki
Portugal1266 Posts
On June 25 2011 06:00 Sina92 wrote: Hey you naive fanboys! Blizzard has to warn them. 20k+ people are watching the pros play live and if they see that HuK & TLO are sharing accounts, they might think it is OK, because the pros do it. Since they set examples it is extra important that they follow the Blizzard ToS. That would all be ok if Huk's account actually worked. Except since blizzard screwed the high rating matchmaking, it's his only option if he actually wants to train in ladder. The problem is that he used it in the custom games too, but why would he have to relog every time he wanted to change practice method. Blizzard would be 100% in the right if the matchmaking wasnt crap, this way they aren't. | ||
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Qzy
Denmark1121 Posts
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