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On April 22 2013 01:38 getmoript wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2013 01:16 Hopeless1der wrote:
I don't see it as particularly telling of either alignment as it was Vivax's first post. I read it and just kind of shook my head. I can follow not wanting to lynch him based on being reckless, though not with the certainty that Palmar has suggested. I'm specifically interested in the bolded. I think there's a reasonable value oddly enought to the Vivax conjecture. Anyone who posted early is more likely, as a general rule, to be town as scum are more likely consult a QT for direction and coordinate first. The problem with the heuristic is quite simply that it doesn't work for everyone equally; as a general rule, I think it's likely to be true, but without applying it to the specific people that posted early makes it more of a generally worthless statement. Sylencia -- As far as I know he is a noob, so I'm guessing more likely town then yamato--I am unaware of his scum tendencies, but don't think that posting early is indicative either way oats--AFAIK he's a vet, in the least he's towards the spammy aggressive side which makes posting early non-alignment indicative WoS--he always rolls scum so there's that I guess geript--Clearly an egotistical maniac and posted in The Game early as scum, so again non-alignment indicative Shaio--No clue as to experience, wanting to kill BM is more likely town Vivax--I'm not familiar enough with his meta, but the odd statement alone makes me think he's more likely town as I don't think he's crazy enough to spout that as scum So far, the list of people that I'm not interested in lynching today: Sylencia Vivax Shaio Palmar
At the time I questioned this post because of the sylencia town read, based on absolutely nothing, here it is:
On April 22 2013 08:43 Palmar wrote:Just for the record I would be pretty heavily leaning scum on geript if it wasn't for the QT thing. The most alarming thing is not actually the random town-read on me, but his explanation of sylencia's alignment: Show nested quote +Sylencia -- As far as I know he is a noob, so I'm guessing more likely town then When this read was made Sylencia had posted the following: Show nested quote +On April 21 2013 17:11 Sylencia wrote:
I would kill to be something other than a VT, but hey. Show nested quote +On April 21 2013 18:04 Sylencia wrote:On April 21 2013 17:12 yamato77 wrote:
I would kill you.
Thoughts? Seems like a bad idea to me. PS: Anyone who tries to analyse my first post in the future is dumb. Show nested quote +On April 21 2013 18:43 Sylencia wrote:On April 21 2013 18:18 yamato77 wrote:
You seem a little too nervous about my post.
Maybe you are a good person to kill. Er, what makes me come off as nervous lol This "read" is based on absolutely nothing, and whether or not Sylencia is a noob has almost nothing to do with his read. I don't understand this read and why on earth it's part of his "analysis".
I did not notice that he did exactly the same thing with shiaopi!
On April 21 2013 17:37 ShiaoPi wrote:
Let me kill Bill Murray first!
On April 21 2013 18:27 ShiaoPi wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2013 18:23 Vivax wrote:
Good morning.
Is it safe to assume scum didn't post yet? Is it safe to assume that we cant assume anything? So many people to kill so little time...
On April 21 2013 18:32 ShiaoPi wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2013 18:28 Vivax wrote:
Well I don't care that you say no, I'll treat everyone who posted before me as confirmed town for a while. ugh, whatever floats your boat I guess
To the point geript made sure he did not want to lynch shiaopi.
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you know what, screw it.
##Vote Geript
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On May 10 2013 05:25 BloodyC0bbler wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2013 05:20 WaveofShadow wrote:
Can we list off TRN's Mason targets in order just so I have a little contextx when filter diving?
Palmar, yamato, me, BC, who else and on which nights? I asked him for this info in the mason qt. Still waiting on a response. I think it went, Palmar, yamato, you, sharrant, me
I've never quite understood what you're supposed to get out of a mason role or being masoned...the ability to use it well seems beyond me. I'll be looking back at my log with him but I doubt I'll find anything useful. If I do find something worth noting it will definitely be in his filter.
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On May 10 2013 05:39 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2013 05:25 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On May 10 2013 05:20 WaveofShadow wrote:
Can we list off TRN's Mason targets in order just so I have a little contextx when filter diving?
Palmar, yamato, me, BC, who else and on which nights? I asked him for this info in the mason qt. Still waiting on a response. I think it went, Palmar, yamato, you, sharrant, me I've never quite understood what you're supposed to get out of a mason role or being masoned...the ability to use it well seems beyond me. I'll be looking back at my log with him but I doubt I'll find anything useful. If I do find something worth noting it will definitely be in his filter.
Masoning can be incredibly powerful if you have two people who mesh well together sharing their thoughts. This is why hydras are generally stronger townies than normal players.
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I don't know.
I just read sharrant's last day. He was pretty adamant about not lynching BC so that makes me happier not to lynch bc.
*shrug*
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On May 10 2013 05:38 Palmar wrote:
you know what, screw it.
##Vote Geript
I kinda like this. If we lynch you and you flip town it makes me have faith that I'll know where to look for some reason.
You know what? Palmar, you've inspired me.
The last time a couple posts REALLY struck me as scummy instantly was my second newbie game; I went with my gut on it and was right.
TRN, you should remember it well; you helped me lynch Arctic Daishi.
Well guess what?
##Vote: TheRavensName
I will still be going through your filter but god damn were those last posts scummy.
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On May 08 2013 22:26 kushm4sta wrote:Show nested quote +On May 08 2013 22:22 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
If we're going to policy lynch anyone it'll be you, kush. yeah i deserve it no doubt, but at least the policy lynch on palmar has a chance of hitting scum here is the lynch order imo 1 hopeless 2 palmar (half policy lynch because he annoys me/half scum lynch) 3 BC
On May 08 2013 08:20 kushm4sta wrote:Show nested quote +On May 08 2013 07:08 kushm4sta wrote:
it was lolz to kill him though because yamato was the towniest person in this game.
On May 08 2013 00:58 kushm4sta wrote:
we can lynch bc tomorrow when yamato flips town
On May 07 2013 13:02 kushm4sta wrote:
i think town is making a huge mistake lynching yamato
(inb4 omg town in 3rd person scumslip1!!!!)
but I dont mind it actually because I am so horny for flips. It's like when you haven't had sex in 2 years and you will have sex with anyone just to have it. exactly like that.
On May 06 2013 10:28 kushm4sta wrote:
Can we lynch bc now though? I wanna see a flip.
These are just some of his posts he makes this game about shit. There is no justification on why to lynch who he wants and they are really not in any way I can see it town. He wants to lynch people for flips? Its actively not giving a shit about player alignment, just getting lynches over with and the flips done. Says someone is 100% townie? still votes for them because why not? Then tries to get someone lynched because of push made for that lynch. No way in hell can the guy be town off that. However there is more
On May 02 2013 05:42 kushm4sta wrote:
I want to lynch yamato because he soft defended shiaopi and clarity. too much of a coincidence imo. i already posted the quote 2 times.
plus there are a ton of other reasons other people have posted.
yamato...lurker doesn't make you scum. Town easily can lurk for a million different reasons and I was doing it myself for the middle part of this game.
Your case against hopeless..i do not find it convincing in the least.
Keep in mind this is 8 days ago, however. He calls yamato scum for soft defending (he calls yamato town for no reason a few days later) he also says he doesn't agree with the hopeless case, but hes been pushing hopeless for days.
Lets keep going shall we
On May 01 2013 08:30 kushm4sta wrote:
i wish the player list was updated so i knew who is even still in the game
Not even reading the game. Not the only instance of a post like this
On April 25 2013 14:52 kushm4sta wrote:hi ace. you aren't town this game so i'm not listening to your suggestions and nor should anyone else. VE is town. He is town from his first post in the game. Show nested quote +On April 21 2013 23:02 VisceraEyes wrote:
THANKS FOR MAKING ME HAVE TO READ THE DAMNED OP BH THAT WAS COOL OF YOU NOT
Sup guys I'm here and I'm very town. So whazzup? only town would complain about having to read the op (because the role names weren't colored) I am gonna vote for shiaopi. I don't want to go for clarity because now Ace is pushing it. A very similar thing happened yesterday. Yamato was the popular lynch, then Ace pushed Oats, claiming the case on Oats was really good (even though in retrospect it sucked).
On April 26 2013 07:17 kushm4sta wrote:
Hmmm I agree with VE and BC that Palmar is useless and scummy. Only thing that gives me reservations is his roleblock but now that BC says he was roleblocked, that opens up new possibilities.
Palmar's tunnel on VE makes ZERO sense and Palmar is unwilling to explain.
##vote palmar
On April 27 2013 13:47 kushm4sta wrote:
so who we lynching now? palmar still or what?
On April 27 2013 22:18 kushm4sta wrote:
just read dome shit in the thread. palmer lynch looks really bad.
clarity lynch looks good.
unvote
vote clarity
On April 28 2013 06:47 kushm4sta wrote:
palmar convinced me to vote clarity!
In the span of 5 posts he says he wont vote clarity because ace is pushing it. He says he finds palmar useless and scummy and that he wants to lynch palmar. He then realizes clarity wagon is picking up, jumps on board and says "palmar lynch looks bad, clarity looks good and palmar convinced me to vote clarity"
His top scum read who he wants to kill and a guy he says isn't town this game say "lets kill clarity" and he just jumps on board with no explanation whatsoever. This is something a mafia would do if his teammate is dying to buy cred. Townie has no reason to behave like this.
On April 30 2013 09:37 kushm4sta wrote:
I will not vote for shiaopi or cc ever. I think they are both town.
On April 30 2013 10:11 kushm4sta wrote:
eh ill vote shiao if he got a red check
See this?
He outright says he will not vote to lynch shiaopi ever, or cc (flipped town) then says will only vote shiaopi if there is a dt check. Why would a townie require a dt check to lynch mafia? If a case is good enough its good enough. More importantly, he suspected yamato in this post
On May 01 2013 10:56 kushm4sta wrote:yamato your one claim to towniness is pushing shiaopi d2. But the other wagon was clarity. So in reality you were just picking between 2 scum. scum literally had to bus. Also that quote from earlier in which you explicitly soft defend 2 known scum. here it is again: Show nested quote +On April 26 2013 00:35 yamato77 wrote:+ Show Spoiler +The reason I'm running through all this is that I'm not particularly happy with any of the lynches that most of town is talking about. VE of yesterday feels somewhat town. I feel like more time would only bury scum VE or give chance to solidify a town read on VE. There's absolutely no rush for his lynch to be finalized.
Shaio is easy to mislynch, as evidenced by the suspicion on him in day 2 of British Empire 1, also an instant lynch where he was lurkish, and eventually replaced. The worst part of his filter is the hammer sequence, but even that could be explained by overly eager town who got caught up in the game emotionally.
Clarity is always inactive, and him being fixated on Sharrant is not alignment indicative. His case is objectively something that scum like to do, but in the context of the game, I can see a town Clarity who had a late start feeling the need to get his thoughts about the game on the table, even if they weren't about the main lynch candidates. The fact that he basically has no other reads in the game is a point in his favor, but just like VE, we can afford to play a waiting game with him, seeing as we have unlimited time.
At the very least, we need real discussion about the alignments of Ace/BC/Palmar before we move forward with any lynch. Ace is the most town out of the three, and BC the least, in my eyes. I'd say a long day is in order, and town need to consolidate pressure upon just a few people so that we can determine their alignments more clearly. that's why i want to lynch you now
You know what? A guy who is completely hypocritical by suspecting someone for the same behaviour you are guilty of is something I rarely see in the hands of town. This is something mafia does as its an "easy" reason to suspect someone as it looks like a scum slip. If you are not guilty of the same behaviour I can see someone using it as a reason to lynch you, but given that kush is guilty of defending / outright saying he wouldn't vote for the two confirmed mafia for reasons and then finding an excuse to vote for clarity (following his top scum read / voting for a person another of someone he called not town) is fishy, and only saying he will vote for another if a dt check is on the guy is also weird as hell.
He actively says he doesn't find yamatos case on hopeless convincing he also openly says
On May 02 2013 05:44 kushm4sta wrote:
sorry to double post, but I want to add something about hopeless..
every single game i played with the guy, I wanted to lynch him. He always looks like this.
this says nothing about hopeless alignment, only about how kush likes lynching him.
However when you realize that he has been pushing yamato as scum all game, and actively says he disagrees with yamato's case/read and then just says "Hopeless always looks like this" saying his behaviour is not alignment indicator. Given that then him saying he thought hopeless was scum all game (hypocritical given that he didn't want to lynch this high end scum suspect, nor does he ever push it before this point) I would say he is likely mafia. He jumps on thread sentiment like mad and never pushes his own views. Guy cannot be town.
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Don't count too heavily on my reads even if I flip, I'm like waffling back and forth here.
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and off to work i go, be back in like 6-7 hours
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bc im flattered you spent to much time on little old me
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BC has gotta be third party or something. I guess he's not scum though because of the roleblock thing.
Getmorpt is modconfirmed town remember?
Palmar is an unknown for me.
HOPELESS let us lynch him. I have not seen a good defense of him ever.
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dat triple post
On May 10 2013 05:54 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
He jumps on thread sentiment like mad and never pushes his own views. Guy cannot be town.
Funny, because I am town and you probably know that.
As I have explained many times before, I was not reading in the middle of game at all. I was very aware that my opinion was uninformed and incredibly shitty. I had no idea what was going on with prs, roleblocks, masons, etc. So it only made sense for me to jump on thread sentiment.
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Alright thoughts on Hopeless:
Looks town early then the fucking Oats vote. Hopeless why would you do this as town? It just looks horrible---you didn't even MENTION him in the thread before that point.
And then the pressure on Sharrant...like...wtf.....
I guess bad town is possible here but damn. Calls Shiao town based on the Clarity lynch which means he was either voting Shiao just to spite Sharrant and make his scumread of him earlier look good? You could fucking vote for Shiao based on the fact that he was scum like I did...just really looks awful. I'm trying to find ways Hopeless can be town here but failing.
Howdoes he clearly defend me regarding the Miller claim issue when nobody else (aside from Ace) sees it? He even sees it from a completely different perspective than Ace yet comes to similar conclusions. Seems more likely to be scum here imo since he knows I'm town. Like....it's POSSIBLE he's town with that read but when NO ONE ELSE in the town shared it?
Haha oh unrelated I found something interesting: Shiao's WIFOMBomb he left before he died isn't WIFOM at all.
On May 01 2013 00:23 ShiaoPi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2013 00:19 Hopeless1der wrote:On May 01 2013 00:13 ShiaoPi wrote:On May 01 2013 00:01 yamato77 wrote:On April 30 2013 23:48 ShiaoPi wrote:On April 30 2013 23:47 yamato77 wrote:On April 30 2013 23:43 ShiaoPi wrote:
yo guys,
kill gigyas, stutters and VE thats the scum team and kush or the cobbler are 3rd party.... What is this supposed to be? Just leaving behind my point of view, before someone stupid hammers me Looks like a WifomBomb® you dont say? Lets kill yamato too while we are at it so you're calling three scum, two 3rd parties and a Planar Dragon in there somewhere? dont forget two traitors: BM and Sharrant no in all seriousness, I am farily sure in gigyas and stutters, coinflipping between VE and palmar and I do think one of kush/cobbler are 3rd party
Looking at the first bomb he dropped (no mention of sharrant/BM/Palmar) I want to say everyone in that list is town. Then I bet he was yelled at in the scum QT by whoever the 'active' scum is to add a few. The 2nd Bomb is paranoia setting in; can't be 100% sure of the others he named but no mention of TRN/Geript is interesting. You can ignore the above if you want it's just something I noticed. (Personally since I see BM as town and so was Sharrant it almost makes me wonder if literally everyone in his 2nd bomb is town too...including Palmar.)
ANYWAY BACK TO HOPELESS READ
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On May 10 2013 05:25 BloodyC0bbler wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2013 05:20 WaveofShadow wrote:
Can we list off TRN's Mason targets in order just so I have a little contextx when filter diving?
Palmar, yamato, me, BC, who else and on which nights? I asked him for this info in the mason qt. Still waiting on a response. I think it went, Palmar, yamato, you, sharrant, me
Geript was the night before Yamato.
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On May 10 2013 05:47 Palmar wrote:
I don't know.
I just read sharrant's last day. He was pretty adamant about not lynching BC so that makes me happier not to lynch bc.
*shrug*
He also told me in the QT to lynch you if you pull a guilty check. So... you might not want to be too happy.
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On May 10 2013 05:47 WaveofShadow wrote:I kinda like this. If we lynch you and you flip town it makes me have faith that I'll know where to look for some reason. You know what? Palmar, you've inspired me. The last time a couple posts REALLY struck me as scummy instantly was my second newbie game; I went with my gut on it and was right. TRN, you should remember it well; you helped me lynch Arctic Daishi. Well guess what? ##Vote: TheRavensNameI will still be going through your filter but god damn were those last posts scummy.
You have no idea how hard it is to resist all the analysis on you I did with Sharrant. (The only person who seem to actually want to use the QT for analysis and case building. I wish I could have been perm masoned with him.)
If were going off gut scummy, there have been people who have been far scummier all game. Such as Kush, or Hopeless, or you and palmar.
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On May 10 2013 06:12 TheRavensName wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2013 05:47 WaveofShadow wrote:On May 10 2013 05:38 Palmar wrote:
you know what, screw it.
##Vote Geript I kinda like this. If we lynch you and you flip town it makes me have faith that I'll know where to look for some reason. You know what? Palmar, you've inspired me. The last time a couple posts REALLY struck me as scummy instantly was my second newbie game; I went with my gut on it and was right. TRN, you should remember it well; you helped me lynch Arctic Daishi. Well guess what? ##Vote: TheRavensNameI will still be going through your filter but god damn were those last posts scummy. You have no idea how hard it is to resist all the analysis on you I did with Sharrant. (The only person who seem to actually want to use the QT for analysis and case building. I wish I could have been perm masoned with him.) If were going off gut scummy, there have been people who have been far scummier all game. Such as Kush, or Hopeless, or you and palmar.
lol me.
Bring it, Raven.
Kush is probably town, god help me I'm thinking Hopeless might be town now as I finish my read, and Palmar is Palmar right now.
My vote on you remains until I see a reason to remove it.
And there are two things right now that will make me remove it.
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On May 10 2013 06:04 kushm4sta wrote:
BC has gotta be third party or something. I guess he's not scum though because of the roleblock thing.
Getmorpt is modconfirmed town remember?
Palmar is an unknown for me.
HOPELESS let us lynch him. I have not seen a good defense of him ever.
AND YOU! You show up out of no where and just post random little bursts of useless crap. Your entire filter is these shrot bursts of nothing without a single case that contains more then 1 or 2 reasonings. The fuck man? Have you pushed an original idea yet?
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You're trying to 'resist' the analysis? What does that even mean? You don't want to being it to the thread for fear of derailing a lynch? You don't want to analyze me? If you did all sorts of work with Sharrant why not help the fucking town with it? I really don't understand your motivation here.
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~~~ Vote Count ~~~
Hopeless1der: (2) GiygaS, kushm4sta,
Palmar: (2) Artanis[Xp], getmoript
GiygaS: (3) Bill Murray, Hopeless1der, TheRavensName
getmoript: (1) Palmar
kushm4sta: (1) BloodyCobbler
Remember, this Day ends when a majority is reached. As soon as a majority is reached, please stop posting until the Night Post has been posted. Only votes in the voting thread will be counted! The voting thread can be found here: (link)
Please keep in mind that with 10 alive it now only takes 6 votes to lynch! If there are any mistakes in the vote count, please inform us.
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