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Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
September 29 2011 20:58 GMT
#501
Yes I have legitimate reasons for seeing Palmar as scum but I am scum if he flips Town because people listened and liked my reasons.

Yeah right buddy. If Palmar flips Town the one to be turbolynched is you.
wat
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
September 29 2011 20:59 GMT
#502
Yeah if palmar flips town and I get lynched there will be no one to blame but the retarded townies who don't know how to reason out of a paper bag
Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
September 29 2011 21:01 GMT
#503
You look like you fit that criteria pretty soundly.

You're basically saying whatever wagon I start as long as they are Town I am scum. You also say me and Mig have valid reasons for pushing Palmar but I am still scum because people agree with me.

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wat
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
September 29 2011 21:02 GMT
#504
you suck wbg stop talking semantics

kenpachi
lucidity
incognito

these guys need to say something in this thread right now. you can't just hide, it's 1 hour until deadline and combined you have one noteworthy post, which was incognito saying he wasn't going to be active in this thread.

it's cool and all but you need to vote and you need to put something into this thread.
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wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
September 29 2011 21:04 GMT
#505
You can't read, apparently.

Quote me where I say you're scum because people agree with you.

Quote me where I say you're scum in any situation other than Palmar flipping town.

If Palmar flips scum then you are clean and we should consider who sheeped Palmar for no reason or weak reasons. Basically, players like Forumite and risk.nuke.

If palmar flips town we should probably still consider them but you become a good target cause you push easy mislynches on day 1 as mafia.
Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
September 29 2011 21:05 GMT
#506
Your definition of easy lynch was because people follow along with poor reasoning. And then I am scum because I push easy lynches. Ergo you're saying I'm scum because people agree with me.

Derp.
wat
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
September 29 2011 21:09 GMT
#507
On September 30 2011 06:05 Curu wrote:
Your definition of easy lynch was because people follow along with poor reasoning. And then I am scum because I push easy lynches. Ergo you're saying I'm scum because people agree with me.

Derp.


You're scum when you push an easy lynch of a TOWNIE

Again: an easy lynch of a TOWNIE

We don't know what Palmar is so I'm not accusing you of anything yet. Get your head out of your ass and use your fucking brain.
Erandorr
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
2283 Posts
September 29 2011 21:17 GMT
#508
Oh btw Palmar, since you are such a good scumhunter and still claim to be town, why dont you give us your reads since we are going to lynch you?
Incognito
Profile Joined November 2008
United States2071 Posts
September 29 2011 21:21 GMT
#509
On September 30 2011 05:57 wherebugsgo wrote:
Omfg are you reading anything I'm writing?

YOU ARE SCUM IF PALMAR FLIPS TOWN

Jesus fucking Christ I said nothing about you being scum other than that

Here we go again with the baseless assumptions.

Stop using throwing the word "meta" around. Townies are wrong all the time so this should NOT be a consideration for this lynch.

This Palmar lynch is quite interesting right now, although this is nowhere near a "strong case". I am disturbed by the fact that nobody seems to be defending him in thread, (except perhaps wherebugsgo, underhandedly, and Forumite earlier) or is trying to derail the lynch.

The most interesting thing about Palmar is that he doesn't defend himself at all and just claims alignment cop. The other thing is completely ignoring jackal and switching to Curu AFTER I said that the WBG and Jackal lynches are bad. With that said, there are definitely reasons to see why Palmar is town. Since this is quite an uncontested lynch, I'm going to be looking out for those lurkers who jumped on the wagon in the middle section. Erandorr and jcarlsoniv come to mind.

##Vote Erandorr for this post:

On September 30 2011 02:57 Erandorr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2011 02:49 DropBear wrote:
I don't like the bugs lynch. He is being spammy and annoying and doing bad OMGUS votes. I've seen him play in 2 games before this, both as town and he was spammy and annoying in those and did bad OMGUS votes. Yes it is OMGUS. He claims you are scum, then you vote him. Semantics about him not actually voting are semantics.

I have completely no idea how to read Palmar since he abused the hell out of me in XLIV as town and his derailing of Lord of the Rings. His Jackal vote was weak as hell but then most of his early reads are poor so I'm not sure what to think yet. The headbutting with Curu is just an ego battle.

The Chezinu lynch is bad cos he is renowned for playing like a wierdo and supposedly hasn't even opened his role PM yet.

The Jackal lynch is bad cos he's always quiet on day 1. I fail to see how he has claimed mute. It is true that he hasn't replied to my PM but then PMing me got him killed in Werewolves so I understand, even though I'm hurt

Basically all the lynches with more than 1 vote on them at the moment are poor in my opinion.

I want to lynch Sevryn.


What?
So you are saying nothing at all with your first real post and then want to lynch someone while giving no reason or any form of analysis?

Have you made an effort reading this thread? Mig provided some really strong analysis on Palmar, and while I dont like the way Curu has been posting , right now I think Palmar is our best shot at lynching scum today.

##Unvote
## Vote Palmar


Someone please tell me why Erandorr would pop up and pick on DropBear while voting Palmar in the same post.

On September 30 2011 03:28 Erandorr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2011 03:12 DropBear wrote:
Oh for. I should never have made that stupid account.

On September 30 2011 02:57 Erandorr wrote:
On September 30 2011 02:49 DropBear wrote:
I don't like the bugs lynch. He is being spammy and annoying and doing bad OMGUS votes. I've seen him play in 2 games before this, both as town and he was spammy and annoying in those and did bad OMGUS votes. Yes it is OMGUS. He claims you are scum, then you vote him. Semantics about him not actually voting are semantics.

I have completely no idea how to read Palmar since he abused the hell out of me in XLIV as town and his derailing of Lord of the Rings. His Jackal vote was weak as hell but then most of his early reads are poor so I'm not sure what to think yet. The headbutting with Curu is just an ego battle.

The Chezinu lynch is bad cos he is renowned for playing like a wierdo and supposedly hasn't even opened his role PM yet.

The Jackal lynch is bad cos he's always quiet on day 1. I fail to see how he has claimed mute. It is true that he hasn't replied to my PM but then PMing me got him killed in Werewolves so I understand, even though I'm hurt

Basically all the lynches with more than 1 vote on them at the moment are poor in my opinion.

I want to lynch Sevryn.


What?
So you are saying nothing at all with your first real post and then want to lynch someone while giving no reason or any form of analysis?

Have you made an effort reading this thread? Mig provided some really strong analysis on Palmar, and while I dont like the way Curu has been posting , right now I think Palmar is our best shot at lynching scum today.

##Unvote
## Vote Palmar

Yes I have read the thread.

Mig's prime argument against Palmar is that he is a better player than his play in this game. My personal experience is that in fact his early play sucks in this game because his early play sucks in general. This is the guy who was renowned for shooting DTs we are talking about, plus his play in the last 2 games I've been involved in, once as town and once third party, was erratic and disruptive too.

I much prefer to lynch Sevryn than Palmar.


Hmm I need to look closer at Sev then , but you have seen his town play , right? I would say we can give him a couple of more days instead of going for the really easy kill on someone who is known for being scummy as hell when town.


Palmar is also known for being scummy when town.
The bureaucracy is expanding to meet the needs of the expanding bureaucracy
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
September 29 2011 21:27 GMT
#510
Incognito it's not a baseless assumption.

In MLP when we played as scum together Curu admitted that he was fond of leading the lynch on scummy townies on day 1 and then subsequently slipping under the radar. In XLIV he led the Sevryn lynch and in MLP he led the sinani lynch, both of which were relatively uncontested mislynches.

In this game once again we see a relatively uncontested lynch effort led by Curu.
I say that if Palmar flips town Curu is very likely to be mafia because I don't believe that there are good reasons to lynch Palmar.
Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
September 29 2011 21:30 GMT
#511
On September 30 2011 06:09 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2011 06:05 Curu wrote:
Your definition of easy lynch was because people follow along with poor reasoning. And then I am scum because I push easy lynches. Ergo you're saying I'm scum because people agree with me.

Derp.


You're scum when you push an easy lynch of a TOWNIE

Again: an easy lynch of a TOWNIE

We don't know what Palmar is so I'm not accusing you of anything yet. Get your head out of your ass and use your fucking brain.


You're saying if I lynch a Townie I must be scum because regardless of player, regardless of argument, regardless of anything if people agree with me it's somehow an easy lynch.

I'm done talking with you until you grow some sense.
wat
Erandorr
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
2283 Posts
September 29 2011 21:32 GMT
#512
On September 30 2011 06:21 Incognito wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2011 05:57 wherebugsgo wrote:
Omfg are you reading anything I'm writing?

YOU ARE SCUM IF PALMAR FLIPS TOWN

Jesus fucking Christ I said nothing about you being scum other than that

Here we go again with the baseless assumptions.

Stop using throwing the word "meta" around. Townies are wrong all the time so this should NOT be a consideration for this lynch.

This Palmar lynch is quite interesting right now, although this is nowhere near a "strong case". I am disturbed by the fact that nobody seems to be defending him in thread, (except perhaps wherebugsgo, underhandedly, and Forumite earlier) or is trying to derail the lynch.

The most interesting thing about Palmar is that he doesn't defend himself at all and just claims alignment cop. The other thing is completely ignoring jackal and switching to Curu AFTER I said that the WBG and Jackal lynches are bad. With that said, there are definitely reasons to see why Palmar is town. Since this is quite an uncontested lynch, I'm going to be looking out for those lurkers who jumped on the wagon in the middle section. Erandorr and jcarlsoniv come to mind.

##Vote Erandorr for this post:

Show nested quote +
On September 30 2011 02:57 Erandorr wrote:
On September 30 2011 02:49 DropBear wrote:
I don't like the bugs lynch. He is being spammy and annoying and doing bad OMGUS votes. I've seen him play in 2 games before this, both as town and he was spammy and annoying in those and did bad OMGUS votes. Yes it is OMGUS. He claims you are scum, then you vote him. Semantics about him not actually voting are semantics.

I have completely no idea how to read Palmar since he abused the hell out of me in XLIV as town and his derailing of Lord of the Rings. His Jackal vote was weak as hell but then most of his early reads are poor so I'm not sure what to think yet. The headbutting with Curu is just an ego battle.

The Chezinu lynch is bad cos he is renowned for playing like a wierdo and supposedly hasn't even opened his role PM yet.

The Jackal lynch is bad cos he's always quiet on day 1. I fail to see how he has claimed mute. It is true that he hasn't replied to my PM but then PMing me got him killed in Werewolves so I understand, even though I'm hurt

Basically all the lynches with more than 1 vote on them at the moment are poor in my opinion.

I want to lynch Sevryn.


What?
So you are saying nothing at all with your first real post and then want to lynch someone while giving no reason or any form of analysis?

Have you made an effort reading this thread? Mig provided some really strong analysis on Palmar, and while I dont like the way Curu has been posting , right now I think Palmar is our best shot at lynching scum today.

##Unvote
## Vote Palmar


Someone please tell me why Erandorr would pop up and pick on DropBear while voting Palmar in the same post.

Show nested quote +
On September 30 2011 03:28 Erandorr wrote:
On September 30 2011 03:12 DropBear wrote:
Oh for. I should never have made that stupid account.

On September 30 2011 02:57 Erandorr wrote:
On September 30 2011 02:49 DropBear wrote:
I don't like the bugs lynch. He is being spammy and annoying and doing bad OMGUS votes. I've seen him play in 2 games before this, both as town and he was spammy and annoying in those and did bad OMGUS votes. Yes it is OMGUS. He claims you are scum, then you vote him. Semantics about him not actually voting are semantics.

I have completely no idea how to read Palmar since he abused the hell out of me in XLIV as town and his derailing of Lord of the Rings. His Jackal vote was weak as hell but then most of his early reads are poor so I'm not sure what to think yet. The headbutting with Curu is just an ego battle.

The Chezinu lynch is bad cos he is renowned for playing like a wierdo and supposedly hasn't even opened his role PM yet.

The Jackal lynch is bad cos he's always quiet on day 1. I fail to see how he has claimed mute. It is true that he hasn't replied to my PM but then PMing me got him killed in Werewolves so I understand, even though I'm hurt

Basically all the lynches with more than 1 vote on them at the moment are poor in my opinion.

I want to lynch Sevryn.


What?
So you are saying nothing at all with your first real post and then want to lynch someone while giving no reason or any form of analysis?

Have you made an effort reading this thread? Mig provided some really strong analysis on Palmar, and while I dont like the way Curu has been posting , right now I think Palmar is our best shot at lynching scum today.

##Unvote
## Vote Palmar

Yes I have read the thread.

Mig's prime argument against Palmar is that he is a better player than his play in this game. My personal experience is that in fact his early play sucks in this game because his early play sucks in general. This is the guy who was renowned for shooting DTs we are talking about, plus his play in the last 2 games I've been involved in, once as town and once third party, was erratic and disruptive too.

I much prefer to lynch Sevryn than Palmar.


Hmm I need to look closer at Sev then , but you have seen his town play , right? I would say we can give him a couple of more days instead of going for the really easy kill on someone who is known for being scummy as hell when town.


Palmar is also known for being scummy when town.


So you think that right now based on me calling out DP for a really scummy post and then giving my own vote in a very short form since all I wanted to say had been said already makes me the most likely to flip scum today? And then you seem to not have read what Mig wrote about palmar , or you would not have made that second statement..
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
September 29 2011 21:34 GMT
#513
what the hell are you and radfield having a competition about who can get erandorr bangwagon'd with the least amount of time left in the game?

you make a big ass post about how baller pm land is and how you're going to spend your time here and then you come here, saying questionable stuff such as "the palmar lynch is terrible" (it isn't) and then you build a case NOT BASED ON PMS but on two silly posts from erandorr

aren't you supposed to be good at this game or something? you say it in the god damn post "making a mistake doesn't make you scum" and then you highlight a mistake from a new player and say "oh he's definitely scum, not palmar who lies about arguments and hides when he's about to get lynched". do you really think that erandorr is better lynch than palmar?

"my/his town play is scummy" is really no excuse for anything.
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wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
September 29 2011 21:37 GMT
#514
On September 30 2011 06:30 Curu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2011 06:09 wherebugsgo wrote:
On September 30 2011 06:05 Curu wrote:
Your definition of easy lynch was because people follow along with poor reasoning. And then I am scum because I push easy lynches. Ergo you're saying I'm scum because people agree with me.

Derp.


You're scum when you push an easy lynch of a TOWNIE

Again: an easy lynch of a TOWNIE

We don't know what Palmar is so I'm not accusing you of anything yet. Get your head out of your ass and use your fucking brain.


You're saying if I lynch a Townie I must be scum because regardless of player, regardless of argument, regardless of anything if people agree with me it's somehow an easy lynch.

I'm done talking with you until you grow some sense.


Nope. You still can't read, Curu, and that's really sad.

I guess we'll find out when Palmar gets lynched whether you're purposely being incompetent or you're just not able to comprehend my arguments because you're not thinking.

Incognito
Profile Joined November 2008
United States2071 Posts
September 29 2011 21:56 GMT
#515
On September 30 2011 06:34 prplhz wrote:
what the hell are you and radfield having a competition about who can get erandorr bangwagon'd with the least amount of time left in the game?

you make a big ass post about how baller pm land is and how you're going to spend your time here and then you come here, saying questionable stuff such as "the palmar lynch is terrible" (it isn't) and then you build a case NOT BASED ON PMS but on two silly posts from erandorr

aren't you supposed to be good at this game or something? you say it in the god damn post "making a mistake doesn't make you scum" and then you highlight a mistake from a new player and say "oh he's definitely scum, not palmar who lies about arguments and hides when he's about to get lynched". do you really think that erandorr is better lynch than palmar?

"my/his town play is scummy" is really no excuse for anything.

Lol.

I hope the first sentence is a joke, as there is no indication that I am "trying to start a bandwagon". I am just trying to point out things that nobody is talking about. Palmar is clearly about to be lynched, so I might as well move on.

There isn't a strong enough case for me to defend him, but he isn't scummy enough for me to jump on the wagon and say "Yes! Plamar is 100% mafia" either.

I never said the second statement. I am saying the case against him is questionable. Everyone is running around saying "Palmar is a great lynch" when it clearly isn't. Palmar isn't playing like his usual town OR usual mafia. Of course, if he survives this lynch I'll go back and examine his past games later when I have time. You all keep screaming "Lynch All Liars" which is one of those other buzzwords that have little meaning.

The 3rd bolded statement is flat out a lie. I never said or even hinted that Palmar is 100% town.

I'm curious that you have never actually contributed anything to the Palmar case except for this. And then you go beserk when I decide to vote for Erandorr instead of Palmar. If this isn't a blatant misrepresentation of my post, I don't know what is. Congratulations, you just became number 1 on my suspect list.
The bureaucracy is expanding to meet the needs of the expanding bureaucracy
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
September 29 2011 21:56 GMT
#516
Night 1


Palmar the RED Pyro got lynched

Lucidity needs a replacement, he will get modkilled (without any punishment) if noone replaces him till Day 2
Sinani206 gets a warning for a no vote
sorry for doing that couple of minutes earlier
good night
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Incognito
Profile Joined November 2008
United States2071 Posts
September 29 2011 21:57 GMT
#517
Whoops sorry misread there. Should have been:

"The 3rd bolded statement is flat out a lie. I never said or even hinted that Erandorr is 100% red."
The bureaucracy is expanding to meet the needs of the expanding bureaucracy
Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
September 29 2011 21:57 GMT
#518
BEST EVER
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Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
September 29 2011 22:00 GMT
#519
=)

Scumhunters supreme.
:3
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
September 29 2011 22:01 GMT
#520
Since Palmar flipped red I'm interested in pursuing these players:

Forumite, risk.nuke, Incognito.

Jackal is still pretty scummy to me as well, but his link to Palmar was weaker than the others.

Also I don't believe either Nisani nor Sinani ever really mentioned Palmar either.
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