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You have to provide some kind of evidence/proof (screenshots/replays etc.) if you are going to accuse somebody.
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On February 11 2013 02:54 Mavvie wrote:
Replay against wRtCyborg:
- Fails a cannon rush, really nothing suspicious about this game. He sees immortals so he goes into stargate, but dies to Cyborg's 4gate immortal bust.
Replay against Aruncart:
- Another failed cannon rush, transitions into robo shortly after Aruncart plants his robotics facility
- Sort of mirrors his opponent's build (super fast colo bay)
- 9:25 super suspicious probe move commands, looks like he was doing a FoW peek but trying to hide it by issuing commands to his probe. Not condemning, but suspicious
- Gets an observer but doesn't scout at all with it...still knows NOTHING about opponent's tech path.
- Shortly after 10:00 he sees that his opponent is doing a colossus push.
- He then plays with some of the worst positioning I've seen in my life and promptly loses. Instead of using defenders' advantage at the top of his ramp, he does the dumbest unit movement I've ever seen. I can't even explain it...move command into his opponent's army would have probably had better results.
No evidence of maphacking in these PvP replays, just general bad play after the cannon rush. But this could be because of his choice of strategy and lack of experience in standard games.
As a side note, I think it is not impressive at all to make GM by using abusive, no-skill strategies like pylon walling in PvZ.
My read from his Pvz games is obs tab only, no mh.
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Pretty sure he's using map hacks, too. He's mirrored my blink stalker movements pretty obviously with his robo army on scorched haven, which has a huge area to blink in the base. He also sent scvs to expand at the only base I didn't have a ling at on tyrador keep, which was a mindless expansion to take given the context of the game (close hard fought game, not a ninja expo).
But even in those 1v1s, how could he have been certain the terran was retreating without a map hack? And the one where the zerg tries to bane bust him, he sends those zealots out to ridiculous positions at a ridiculous timing and "scouts" the incoming ling bane attack.
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On February 11 2013 04:31 2v2levels wrote:
Pretty sure he's using map hacks, too. He's mirrored my blink stalker movements pretty obviously with his robo army on scorched haven, which has a huge area to blink in the base. He also sent scvs to expand at the only base I didn't have a ling at on tyrador keep, which was a mindless expansion to take given the context of the game (close hard fought game, not a ninja expo).
But even in those 1v1s, how could he have been certain the terran was retreating without a map hack? And the one where the zerg tries to bane bust him, he sends those zealots out to ridiculous positions at a ridiculous timing and "scouts" the incoming ling bane attack.
I should reword it as the existence of an obs tab hack is beyond a doubt to me, whereas a maphack is likely but not as beyond a doubt as the obs tab hack. At least, it doesn't always appear to be on, although there are many highly suspicious moments.
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Hacker name: EsteeLauder ( http://sc2ranks.com/eu/3474029/EsteeLauder )
Server: EU, but he spoke in korean for a moment I think, and there's somebody with the same name on KR server..
League: master, 618 pts, 38w / 15l
Description: in game he told me I was a n00b toss cause I had "slow hands" and "low apm", I wonder how he could know that without a hack.. ? Anyway, after the game he accused me of map hacking, and there was some suspicious moves during the game, so I had a look at the replay.. and it seems he was the one map hacking..
Replay: http://www.gamereplays.org/starcraft2/replays.php?game=33&show=download&id=278408
Proof:
- 4'40: goes for 1 rax triple CC before he scouted I even took my natural. Does not make a bunker to be safe, I could be 4 gating...
- 6'40: moves his marines where my scouting probe goes, without seeing it
- 7'00: makes 2 blind bunkers cause I added a fourth gate. Cancels them later when he sees I'm actually teching.. (all blindly)
- 8'30: moves his third CC from his main to his 3rd. At this point he still hasn't scouted anything I'm doing, minimap is empty, I could be doing a push...
- 9'30: starts a ghost academy blindly as I have warped 2 templars. Seriously, who goes for fast 3 CC dual engy bays and ghost academy without even scouting my first unit or building ? For all he know I could still be on 1 base..
- 10'45: changes his army direction suddenly to intercept a probe I had sneaked out of my base a few seconds before, when he was killing the rocks. Kills my proxy probe at 11' without having a clue it's there..
- 11'38: probably the most conclusive proof. Lifts his 3rd's CC and saves his scvs without seeing me coming. He doesn't even have the xel naga tower.
- 14'55: looks at my third base in the fog
- 15'40: at this point in the game, our Terran still hasn't seen a single building of mine on the minimap. His 4 medivac drop finally gives vision of some of my base.
- 16'00: Has a small group of units in front of my third ( which he hasn't scouted yet ), apparently he wanted to attack during his drop. But he doesn't. In fact he sees in the fog of war that I've splitted my army, so he decides to retreat ( which makes no sense if he didn't have vision of what I was doing ).
I haven't watched the rest of the game, it's basically more of the same, him intercepting harass zealots, making vikings when he doesn't see I'm making colossi, etc.. ), I think there's enough proof in it so far. That guy has a very good win ratio ( 75%+ ) but apparently it's all due to his map hack, he's BM and in fact has no skills of his own.
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But even in those 1v1s, how could he have been certain the terran was retreating without a map hack? And the one where the zerg tries to bane bust him, he sends those zealots out to ridiculous positions at a ridiculous timing and "scouts" the incoming ling bane attack.[/QUOTE]
you realize i sent them to attack his base, right? how is that "ridiculous positions"? once again, levels, stop being so mad and just get over your stupidity.
and my games today in case you feel the need to look at them too:
my games today:
http://drop.sc/303776
http://drop.sc/303775
http://drop.sc/303774
http://drop.sc/303773
http://drop.sc/303772
http://drop.sc/303771
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Pretty sure that 1 zealot was sent right at the lings... and not a-moved into the base. The camera even only went over where the lings were going. I chalked that up simply due to liking to control zealot movement all along the way, as I do that myself sometimes rather than just straight up a-move into a base, but if you're going to claim you were a-moving into a base....
edit - Also why do you insist on breaking quote format with your posts.
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i have never written in a forum on TL, idk how >.> im sorry...
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On February 11 2013 05:37 Nyast wrote:Hacker name: EsteeLauder ( http://sc2ranks.com/eu/3474029/EsteeLauder ) Server: EU, but he spoke in korean for a moment I think, and there's somebody with the same name on KR server.. League: master, 618 pts, 38w / 15l Description: in game he told me I was a n00b toss cause I had "slow hands" and "low apm", I wonder how he could know that without a hack.. ? Anyway, after the game he accused me of map hacking, and there was some suspicious moves during the game, so I had a look at the replay.. and it seems he was the one map hacking.. Replay: http://www.gamereplays.org/starcraft2/replays.php?game=33&show=download&id=278408Proof: - 4'40: goes for 1 rax triple CC before he scouted I even took my natural. Does not make a bunker to be safe, I could be 4 gating... - 6'40: moves his marines where my scouting probe goes, without seeing it - 7'00: makes 2 blind bunkers cause I added a fourth gate. Cancels them later when he sees I'm actually teching.. (all blindly) - 8'30: moves his third CC from his main to his 3rd. At this point he still hasn't scouted anything I'm doing, minimap is empty, I could be doing a push... - 9'30: starts a ghost academy blindly as I have warped 2 templars. Seriously, who goes for fast 3 CC dual engy bays and ghost academy without even scouting my first unit or building ? For all he know I could still be on 1 base.. - 10'45: changes his army direction suddenly to intercept a probe I had sneaked out of my base a few seconds before, when he was killing the rocks. Kills my proxy probe at 11' without having a clue it's there.. - 11'38: probably the most conclusive proof. Lifts his 3rd's CC and saves his scvs without seeing me coming. He doesn't even have the xel naga tower. - 14'55: looks at my third base in the fog - 15'40: at this point in the game, our Terran still hasn't seen a single building of mine on the minimap. His 4 medivac drop finally gives vision of some of my base. - 16'00: Has a small group of units in front of my third ( which he hasn't scouted yet ), apparently he wanted to attack during his drop. But he doesn't. In fact he sees in the fog of war that I've splitted my army, so he decides to retreat ( which makes no sense if he didn't have vision of what I was doing ). I haven't watched the rest of the game, it's basically more of the same, him intercepting harass zealots, making vikings when he doesn't see I'm making colossi, etc.. ), I think there's enough proof in it so far. That guy has a very good win ratio ( 75%+ ) but apparently it's all due to his map hack, he's BM and in fact has no skills of his own.
Just beated this guy on NA 49-18masters, he sure does hack. He is korean it seems.
He always knew where my obs were, never scouted me. He didn't look at my base with the minimap so i guess he had another screen or something.
replay: http://drop.sc/303913
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I wanted to stop by and let you know that over the past several months appropriate actions have been taken against a large majority of the accounts mentioned in this thread as a result of in-game reports. We appreciate your ongoing efforts to report players you believe to be in violation of our policies, and encourage you to continue submitting in-game reports whenever you come across these players. Visit this support article for more information on how to submit a report.
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On February 12 2013 03:24 Aldrexus wrote:I wanted to stop by and let you know that over the past several months appropriate actions have been taken against a large majority of the accounts mentioned in this thread as a result of in-game reports. We appreciate your ongoing efforts to report players you believe to be in violation of our policies, and encourage you to continue submitting in-game reports whenever you come across these players. Visit this support article for more information on how to submit a report.
nunez should really add all the Blizzard responses from Cloaken along with this post into the OP to show people that they actually do care and read this thread.
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Another quick update for you all. After talking with the team that looks into these cases, they made it clear to me that many of the reports they receive often lack links to replays and the information contained in the report is not all too helpful (e.g. "He's a hacker. Ban him."). In your reports, please be sure to include a link to the replay as well as a brief description of what you believe to be suspicious behavior. Thanks!
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On February 12 2013 04:00 Aldrexus wrote:
Another quick update for you all. After talking with the team that looks into these cases, they made it clear to me that many of the reports they receive often lack links to replays and the information contained in the report is not all too helpful (e.g. "He's a hacker. Ban him."). In your reports, please be sure to include a link to the replay as well as a brief description of what you believe to be suspicious behavior. Thanks!
Would be a lot easier to do if the max characters in the report weren't so low xD.
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On February 12 2013 03:48 Cokefreak wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2013 03:24 Aldrexus wrote:I wanted to stop by and let you know that over the past several months appropriate actions have been taken against a large majority of the accounts mentioned in this thread as a result of in-game reports. We appreciate your ongoing efforts to report players you believe to be in violation of our policies, and encourage you to continue submitting in-game reports whenever you come across these players. Visit this support article for more information on how to submit a report. nunez should really add all the Blizzard responses from Cloaken along with this post into the OP to show people that they actually do care and read this thread.
the post itself is not really interesting to anyone who is familiar with this thread, but what you can read between the lines (if you are feeling optimistic) is:
aldrexus is not admitting to actually using this thread, but is more saying 'hey, we caught some number of these guys and gave them some punishment through our own system' (maybe some of these reports were a consequence of this thread, but who knows).
what is slightly ironic about that is that this thread does not exist because people do not know how or where blizzards report system is, but rather because their system was found lacking in some sense by members of the communitiy (the same one he is linking us to).
the post is really saying, "hi, we know you exist and we are alive also", but nothing more. the rest is without real substance. this is of course good. if this thread keeps evolving / growing, people keep contributing, maybe blizzard at some point will say, ok, we can use this. and if they don't we will have to do it ourselves.
and lastly i don't think that they are so stupid that they don't use this thread in their pursuits of keeping sc2 ladder abuser free in some way when they know it exists.
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Hacker name:  Malloc
Server: EU
League: master, 679 points
Description:
Malloc vs REQǂInfiniTe @ clound kingdom
@6:58 autoinject
26756 Malloc Hotkey Select 4
26756 Malloc [MinimapClick] Spawn Larva (Queen); target: Hatchery (3029c);
26756 Malloc Hotkey Select 0
@7:42 autoinject
29592 Malloc Hotkey Select 5
29592 Malloc [MinimapClick] Spawn Larva (Queen); target: Hatchery (1024c);
29592 Malloc Hotkey Select 0
@8:27 autoinject
32448 Malloc Hotkey Select 5
32448 Malloc [MinimapClick] Spawn Larva (Queen); target: Hatchery (1024c);
32448 Malloc Hotkey Select 0
Note: previously named Mira.
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On February 04 2013 10:17 Grimmyman123 wrote:Not yet reported Name: IlIlIlIlIlIl Profile: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/4009806/1/IlIlIlIlIlIl/Server: NA League: GrandMaster Replay: http://drop.sc/301957Notes: Map hacking 2:08 Blind low ground pylon placement for cannon rush, and successful cannon rush. Does not scout actual location of opponent (Entombed valley). Last season was a Diamond league player with 900 pts. This season is GM with a 81 Wins and 37 Losses for a 69.6% Win rate.
previous name: sGEpicName
going to wait for a couple of more reps from this guy.
hopefully shouldn't take long if this is his MO.
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Hacker Name: NITRIXSOPHOS
Server: NA
League: master, 236 points
Hacker Name: NITRIXeDRINK (formerly NITRIXENERGY)
Server: NA
League: not ranked 1v1
Description:
3v3 Replay NA Ladder
http://drop.sc/304012
This is a 3v3 Game with NITRIXSOPHOS, NITRIXeDRINK and NITRIXdSuki
NITRIXSOPHOS and NITRIXeDRINK both hacked pretty obviously.
SOPHOS:
@5:07 Auto Inject
@5:48 Auto Inject
@7:24 Auto Inject
eDRINK:
@3:41 Auto Scv Production
@3:58 Auto Scv Production
@4:49 Auto Scv Production
@5:06 Auto Scv Production
@5:23 Auto Scv Production
@6:13 Auto Scv Production
@6:30 Auto Scv Production
@6:47 Auto Scv Production
@7:04 Auto Scv Production
@7:21 Auto Scv Production
Scv Production stopped after 30 Scvs are mining
EDIT: http://i.imgur.com/gsCInXp.png Conversation with dSuki after the game
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i feel with the clicking of units you don't have vision off, combined with the portugese thread linked by bush( (i am not good at portugese, but there are a lot of pics and reps are provided there with a lot of pretty suspicious evidence) and all the other replays analyzed in this thread it's safe to add dakkon to the list. if anyone disagrees please let me know.
anyhow it needs to be compiled into one report.
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did anyone analyze the replays between mango and tankz yet?
mango vs tankz
how does he intercept the warp prism play in his main at 8:38?
if that's a lucky coincidence i am the earl of doncaster.
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if somebody is caught hacking, there is absolutely no point trying to say: "but it was another person playing on my account" or "i was playing on his account" (but feel free to provide replays of you hacking on your own account as well). the account name that was caught hacking will be put up on the list.
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