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GeorgeForeman
Profile Joined April 2005
United States1746 Posts
September 02 2012 03:45 GMT
#4781
Ya, I really don't think either TSM or Dig will show anything particularly novel tomorrow. Besides, I feel that both probably already showed their aces in the deciding games of both semi-finals. TSM's hyper speed comp and Dig's poke comp were both things no one had seen before.
like a school bus through a bunch of kids
czylu
Profile Joined June 2012
477 Posts
September 02 2012 03:46 GMT
#4782
saintvicious vs hotshotgg. Time to see who really was bringing down clg.
czylu
Profile Joined June 2012
477 Posts
September 02 2012 03:48 GMT
#4783
On September 02 2012 12:45 GeorgeForeman wrote:
Ya, I really don't think either TSM or Dig will show anything particularly novel tomorrow. Besides, I feel that both probably already showed their aces in the deciding games of both semi-finals. TSM's hyper speed comp and Dig's poke comp were both things no one had seen before.


um... TSM has been using that maneuverability comp since the beginning of this tournament, and poke comp was common months ago although mainly w/ urgot + mundo.
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
September 02 2012 03:49 GMT
#4784
On September 02 2012 12:46 czylu wrote:
saintvicious vs hotshotgg. Time to see who really was bringing down clg.


Umm, we all already knew it was hotshot GG. If he wasn't hurting them before, he sure as hell is now.
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-02 03:54:13
September 02 2012 03:53 GMT
#4785
On September 02 2012 12:45 GeorgeForeman wrote:
Ya, I really don't think either TSM or Dig will show anything particularly novel tomorrow. Besides, I feel that both probably already showed their aces in the deciding games of both semi-finals. TSM's hyper speed comp and Dig's poke comp were both things no one had seen before.


Uh I disagree. IIRC the prize difference for 1st and 2nd is pretty big, not to mention the prestige. Considering it is pretty unlikely that either TSM or Dig can actually win the world championship, winning the NA regional is even more crucial.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-02 04:01:54
September 02 2012 04:00 GMT
#4786
On September 02 2012 12:53 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2012 12:45 GeorgeForeman wrote:
Ya, I really don't think either TSM or Dig will show anything particularly novel tomorrow. Besides, I feel that both probably already showed their aces in the deciding games of both semi-finals. TSM's hyper speed comp and Dig's poke comp were both things no one had seen before.


Uh I disagree. IIRC the prize difference for 1st and 2nd is pretty big, not to mention the prestige. Considering it is pretty unlikely that either TSM or Dig can actually win the world championship, winning the NA regional is even more crucial.


It all depends on how much the NA teams study. I can completely see Dig doing serious HW again and pulling some stuff out. TSM is pretty strong when they want to be and Regi isn't Regitarding. They did beat team CLG.EU last time they played in a tourney and they very well could adapt to the Korean play as they saw it at MLG firsthand the strength (if they learn from getting raped). CLG has tons of experience vs CLG.EU and Asian teams so they can be a wild card. Curse seems the most vulnerable to getting out meta'd/mechanics/shot calling but im not really sure of their theory crafting potential (you have to give it to them though they ARE getting better).

If the NA teams do some serious work (I think Dig is showing what that can do for you) they can perform well. They just don't most of the time compared to EU/Asian teams.
Never Knows Best.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-02 04:08:42
September 02 2012 04:07 GMT
#4787
On September 02 2012 13:00 Slaughter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2012 12:53 Sufficiency wrote:
On September 02 2012 12:45 GeorgeForeman wrote:
Ya, I really don't think either TSM or Dig will show anything particularly novel tomorrow. Besides, I feel that both probably already showed their aces in the deciding games of both semi-finals. TSM's hyper speed comp and Dig's poke comp were both things no one had seen before.


Uh I disagree. IIRC the prize difference for 1st and 2nd is pretty big, not to mention the prestige. Considering it is pretty unlikely that either TSM or Dig can actually win the world championship, winning the NA regional is even more crucial.


It all depends on how much the NA teams study. I can completely see Dig doing serious HW again and pulling some stuff out. TSM is pretty strong when they want to be and Regi isn't Regitarding. They did team CLG.EU last time they played in a tourney and they very well could adapt to the korean play as they saw it at MLG firsthand the strength. CLG has tons of experience vs CLG.EU and korean teams so they can be a wild card. Curse seems the most vulnerable to getting out meta'd/mechanics/shot calling.

If the NA teams do some serious work (I think Dig is showing what that can do for you) they can perform well. They just don't most of the time compared to EU/Asian teams.


TSM can pretty much never win against M5. They have difficulties against CLGEU too. Then a month (?) ago, TSM got slaughtered by Azubu Blaze. In their current shape, they have to avoid all the EU/KR teams until the final then pull a rabbit out of a hat to win the whole thing.

Dig is slightly harder to tell due to their recent roster change, but I don't see them suddenly getting super good.

Anyway, I am pretty sure the world champion will belong to either KR or EU. The other teams don't really come close.
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Jaksiel
Profile Joined November 2008
United States4130 Posts
September 02 2012 04:14 GMT
#4788
The World Championships are still over a month away and presumably a couple patches away. I don't think either team should be worried about revealing a 'secret strategy' which might be irrelevant by that tournament, even if the 'only' thing they gain for 1st vs. 2nd is more money. In particular, I think Dignitas will be going all out for the win after the MLG fiasco.
Zero fighting.
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
September 02 2012 04:21 GMT
#4789
If you want to talk strategies for Worlds, Diana is going to be a big part of it. No way you're going to let something like that slip. Jayce will be important too.
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
September 02 2012 04:35 GMT
#4790
i think worlds are going to revolve around gragas honestly
so many players that i think 'he will definitely play gragas this game' just simply aren't. makes me think he's an ace that many teams are going to use

i think soniv mentioned that first and i agree completely. teams are just waiting for an early karthus pick by scarra or regi and gonna unload some real gragas on them
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
September 02 2012 04:36 GMT
#4791
On September 02 2012 13:21 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:
If you want to talk strategies for Worlds, Diana is going to be a big part of it. No way you're going to let something like that slip. Jayce will be important too.


I doubt it. Diana has some serious problems, especially after her nerf. I don't really see her being played professionally.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
nosliw
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2716 Posts
September 02 2012 04:58 GMT
#4792
recommended games?
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
September 02 2012 05:03 GMT
#4793
On September 02 2012 13:58 nosliw wrote:
recommended games?


http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/25122845
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
nosliw
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2716 Posts
September 02 2012 05:09 GMT
#4794
thanks!
Chexx
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)11232 Posts
September 02 2012 06:43 GMT
#4795
Sona will be big at the worlds tournament. Her ult is just too good with her lane dominance.
WriterFollow me @TL_Chexx
Abenson
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada4122 Posts
September 02 2012 07:30 GMT
#4796
I'm more interested in the bans at worlds. If a team has a secret weapon like gragas, can't the other team just ban it?
I highly doubt there are that many super broken OP's that have to be banned over gragas/sona/diana or whatever champ we're talking about.
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-02 07:32:25
September 02 2012 07:32 GMT
#4797
there are not enough bans. Also the two top thing is stupid, can't believe no team has thought of anything that just trashes it, the teams who won just did it better.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22658 Posts
September 02 2012 08:00 GMT
#4798
The thing is there are not really champions why can comfortably 1v2. Some can get by and farm under there tower but no one can 1v2 from lvl 1 and win.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-02 08:52:09
September 02 2012 08:25 GMT
#4799
obviously, there's a restricted champion pool but it's not that difficult to figure out unless you're curse, there's also ways to play around that such as out "guessing" the lanes.
dellesh1ruH
Profile Joined August 2009
Denmark509 Posts
September 02 2012 08:47 GMT
#4800
Sick semifinals for sure!
Pain is temporary, Glory is forever!
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