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ExoFun
Netherlands2041 Posts
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Zhiroo
Kosovo2724 Posts
On September 02 2012 10:13 TheKefka wrote: I don't think I would have made it through another game lol Kinda glad it ended there. Yeah another game would've been too much for my already weakened heart from game 2 | ||
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AUGcodon
Canada536 Posts
The similarity is eerie, M5 went 2:1 against fanatic. And we all know what happened with SK and CLG EU. | ||
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little fancy
Germany2504 Posts
My prediction is that Chaulift has to carry hard or they will lose to Crs in 3 close games. Not that I want to belittle CLG's other member's abilites, but bot lane is the only lane that constantly really shines and makes all the difference in the end. Chauster + DL give CLG the all so needed winning lane in the majority of the games. Personally, I hope for some crazy Alistar + Vayne Action. However, Nyjacky > jiji currently and even though Voyboy might have potential, he didn't really find a rythm playing with the rest of the team yet (and his performance was mixed the last games; yesterday this retarded 800 ELO greed flash over a wall into 5 people in G2 vs Legion and today a 5/0/4 Rumble when I joined G2 still losing by 60+ CS and not having any significant impact lategame). Well, tomorrow evening will show. I'm so going to watch this. | ||
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Affenaffe
Germany1386 Posts
On September 02 2012 10:35 little fancy wrote: though Voyboy might have potential, he didn't really find a rythm playing with the rest of the team yet (and his performance was mixed the last games; yesterday this retarded 800 ELO greed flash over a wall into 5 people in G2 vs Legion and today a 5/0/4 Rumble when I joined G2 still losing by 60+ CS and not having any significant impact lategame). did he have rylai's lategame? i was not paying attention, seems to me they needed every CC they could get against the squishy we-wont-fight escape artist playstyle of DIG | ||
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little fancy
Germany2504 Posts
On September 02 2012 10:44 Affenaffe wrote: did he have rylai's lategame? i was not paying attention, seems to me they needed every CC they could get against the squishy we-wont-fight escape artist playstyle of DIG Yes, he had. But as it is the nature of a poke comp, he didn't really get close and once the 3rd inhibitor was down, they couldn't afford to spent time to chase away Dignitas' members away so the pushing continued until the Nexus finally exploded. | ||
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Haasts
New Zealand4445 Posts
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Kavas
Australia3421 Posts
On September 02 2012 10:44 Affenaffe wrote: did he have rylai's lategame? i was not paying attention, seems to me they needed every CC they could get against the squishy we-wont-fight escape artist playstyle of DIG He did. It was his last item. I think he was trying to get zhonya but changed his mind but I think it was too late. It didn't help his farm when he had to run around with the team when Dig grouped up to push. But it really shows that the current CLG is far far away from reaching the synergy the old CLG had. I was like "WTF VOY!" when he was the first who flashed out of the baron pit and left his team to die ( and had a small sigh and giggle when hotshot failed flash...). At this point, I feel that their synergy is due to their experience and knowing how to react to certain situations rather than any real team chemistry. Jiji on teleport felt subpar, although I think it's partly because of the champion and can't really think of a better summoner he could take. Felt like Hotshot should have gotten a shurelia so they could force more fights, but with the lack of targeted CC it was kinda obvious they would struggle against a poke comp. Very well played by dignitas, smart picks. If they are running this against TSM tomorrow I expect a Jayce ban. | ||
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WhiteDog
France8650 Posts
Also the game they deliver are never impressing, they never give that feeling of dominance other top NA or EU team shows - much like SK in this regard. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On September 02 2012 10:58 Kavas wrote: He did. It was his last item. I think he was trying to get zhonya but changed his mind but I think it was too late. It didn't help his farm when he had to run around with the team when Dig grouped up to push. But it really shows that the current CLG is far far away from reaching the synergy the old CLG had. I was like "WTF VOY!" when he was the first who flashed out of the baron pit and left his team to die ( and had a small sigh and giggle when hotshot failed flash...). At this point, I feel that their synergy is due to their experience and knowing how to react to certain situations rather than any real team chemistry. Jiji on teleport felt subpar, although I think it's partly because of the champion and can't really think of a better summoner he could take. Felt like Hotshot should have gotten a shurelia so they could force more fights, but with the lack of targeted CC it was kinda obvious they would struggle against a poke comp. Very well played by dignitas, smart picks. If they are running this against TSM tomorrow I expect a Jayce ban. I am surprised that Dig didn't go for a Jayce pick. To be honest, it would have been far more effective than AP nid in lane. | ||
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zulu_nation8
China26351 Posts
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Scip
Czech Republic11293 Posts
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On September 02 2012 11:13 Scip wrote: Dignitas really deserved to win the game 2 after the draft phase. CLG really seemed to just pick some generic good champions with no real synergy while dignitas went for a solid plan that they passably executed. After Janna+Gragas they might have picked some real hard engage, though even I didn't see a poke comp coming. After Cho Gath Orianna picks the trap was complete though, support pick couldn't have saved it. CLG shoulda picked Nunu earlier anyway and postpone Orianna or Cho pick. I think Nunu would have been worse against a poke comp. Nunu does not bring sustain to his team and his own sustain is melee ranged. | ||
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Jacobs Ladder
United States1705 Posts
On September 02 2012 11:11 Sufficiency wrote: I am surprised that Dig didn't go for a Jayce pick. To be honest, it would have been far more effective than AP nid in lane. Nid's lich bane ended up being pretty important. | ||
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Scip
Czech Republic11293 Posts
On September 02 2012 11:14 Sufficiency wrote: I think Nunu would have been worse against a poke comp. Nunu does not bring sustain to his team and his own sustain is melee ranged. Nunu wouldn't be better against poke comp, no, but he should have been picked instead of Oriana or Cho'Gath (Nunu is in general a better support for Kog'maw than Sona is). Then Dig either wouldn't go for full poke comp, because CLG could pick a mid/jungler with hard engage, or they would pick it and CLG could pick some thing like Amumu jungle or (Galio? Xerath? dunno how they do in middle lane vs. Gragas) About the Nidalee vs. Jayce, the idea is that you splitpush with Nidalee until the lategame, then you eventually poke with her. Unfortunately for Dig, CLG lost all but inhib turrets really fast, so they didn't get to do much of that. Jayce is stronger at poking, but Nidalee split pushes better. | ||
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courtpanda
866 Posts
On September 02 2012 11:20 Jacobs Ladder wrote: Nid's lich bane ended up being pretty important. AP nid was perfect for the poke, plus lich bane destroyed towers/inhibs. | ||
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Celestial
United States652 Posts
On September 02 2012 11:13 Scip wrote: Dignitas really deserved to win the game 2 after the draft phase. CLG really seemed to just pick some generic good champions with no real synergy while dignitas went for a solid plan that they passably executed. After Janna+Gragas they might have picked some real hard engage, though even I didn't see a poke comp coming. After Cho Gath Orianna picks the trap was complete though, support pick couldn't have saved it. CLG shoulda picked Nunu earlier anyway and postpone Orianna or Cho pick. I would chalk this up to the pressure riding up too high onto CLG than anything regarding their picks and play. It's easy to say they should pick any other champs but in the heat of the moment they chose to go with their best "safe" picks. When they were down a game it seemed they couldn't handle the pressure to make real aggressive plays and so decided to play safe and let Doublelift carry. Dig however saw yesterday CLG's default choice when they were at risk of losing yesterday and came well prepared and countered Ori/Cho hard. Most of this I feel was good work by Dig, so more credit to them. In the end CLG/Curse are going to be grasping for straws in desperation, based on today's play they'll play very safe and play the same champs again. TSM and Dig now don't have the pressure on them and will play more akin to how they usually are, which will show some great games. Great week for LoL. I remember reading earlier from the EU regionals about how CLG.eu played "boring" and one commenting that "Of course we played safe, you'd have to be insane otherwise" or something similar. | ||
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Zess
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
On September 02 2012 11:37 Celestial wrote: I would chalk this up to the pressure riding up too high onto CLG than anything regarding their picks and play. It's easy to say they should pick any other champs but in the heat of the moment they chose to go with their best "safe" picks. When they were down a game it seemed they couldn't handle the pressure to make real aggressive plays and so decided to play safe and let Doublelift carry. Dig however saw yesterday CLG's default choice when they were at risk of losing yesterday and came well prepared and countered Ori/Cho hard. Most of this I feel was good work by Dig, so more credit to them. scarra said he's been doing a ton of homework for these regionals. I wouldn't be surprised to see them pull out a great anti-comp vs TSM in game 2 or 3 tomorrow. | ||
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Kavas
Australia3421 Posts
On September 02 2012 11:53 xes wrote: scarra said he's been doing a ton of homework for these regionals. I wouldn't be surprised to see them pull out a great anti-comp vs TSM in game 2 or 3 tomorrow. Not so sure about that. Both teams already qualified for World Championship so I don't think dignitas wants to show more or allow TSM to power up. The scary thing about TSM is they are very willing to learn and will copy and practice the strategy that beat them until they make it their own. They might not be as smart and innovative as Dig and Chauster but they make up for this with hardwork. If anything Dig will probably keep their strats until the World finals. | ||
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Celestial
United States652 Posts
On September 02 2012 12:22 Kavas wrote: Not so sure about that. Both teams already qualified for World Championship so I don't think dignitas wants to show more or allow TSM to power up. The scary thing about TSM is they are very willing to learn and will copy and practice the strategy that beat them until they make it their own. They might not be as smart and innovative as Dig and Chauster but they make up for this with hardwork. If anything Dig will probably keep their strats until the World finals. I believe this to be true, if anything CLG and Curse are the ones who have to force their hands. Dig will probably go for really good counter strategies to TSM's first picks, but they've been early picking Shen, Maokai, Blitz and Nunu in that order of importance for so long I don't know if they'd be willing to hard counter it with specific champions just yet. Today was a great day to see how teams worked under the pressure of being dropped to 4th. I was thoroughly entertained. | ||
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