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WhiteDog
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France8650 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-04 15:07:13
September 04 2012 15:03 GMT
#6021
On September 04 2012 12:23 misirlou wrote:
regi talks about bming after the games, then proceeds to BM clg saying they are worse after korea LOL.

Regi outplayed them everytime? His ryze got carried so hard who did he outplay actually?

I do agree Scara saying they didnt do anything is pretty bad and offensive. He should have sayed they played their normal game and we didnt prepare for it. The message is the same and it isnt offensive.

Nice listening skill buddy. Reginald said (two time to make everybody SURE) that CLG didn't get worse, but that they didn't get better, but didn't get worse.

He also said he outplayed scarra this time, and that "they deserved the win" (THAT TRASH TALK), which is true - ryze died 1v1 vs morgana one or two time during the first match, and they just stomped dignitas overall.
"every time WhiteDog overuses the word "seriously" in a comment I can make an observation on his fragile emotional state." MoltkeWarding
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-04 15:07:18
September 04 2012 15:04 GMT
#6022
just saying nobody is going to care about a NA league toruament unless international teams are invited, or someone mans up and beats TSM, because lets face it even if you watched and enjoyed the reigonals, it's unlikely you feel like winning was some big accomplishment for TSM.

And don't intentionally mis-understand me just to stir the pot, obviously regionals have to be NA only but NA is an extremely weak region atm.
Carrilord has arrived.
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-04 15:16:13
September 04 2012 15:14 GMT
#6023
On September 05 2012 00:04 Slusher wrote:
just saying nobody is going to care about a NA league toruament unless international teams are invited, or someone mans up and beats TSM, because lets face it even if you watched and enjoyed the reigonals, it's unlikely you feel like winning was some big accomplishment for TSM.

And don't intentionally mis-understand me just to stir the pot, obviously regionals have to be NA only but NA is an extremely weak region atm.


CLG has an only slightly losing record against TSM. Curse has had admirable showings against TSM recently as they've begun to improve.

I mean, TSM has dropped a series to CLG every single tournament that those two have faced. It's not like TSM is unbeatable by other NA teams it's that Dignitas style doesn't work at all against TSM but for some reason it always seems to work against CLG.

Honestly if TSM and CLG weren't 1/2 seeds always and on the other side of the bracket I think you'd have seen CLG win a lot of the LANs that TSM ended up taking. I think in the future you're going to start seeing Curse take more games off TSM and probably even a series here and there. If Dignitas ever figures out how to play against TSM I think they can probably beat them as well.

edit:
Also, I think your post should read, "I won't care about the NA scene." The NA scene is absurdly popular.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
September 04 2012 15:30 GMT
#6024
fair enough,
For me and me alone,

NA only tournaments are reaching online tournament victory status.
Carrilord has arrived.
GeorgeForeman
Profile Joined April 2005
United States1746 Posts
September 04 2012 15:48 GMT
#6025
On September 04 2012 22:47 misirlou wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2012 22:36 KarlKaliente wrote:
Can anyone explain to me the obsession with gunnars in the league community? Why has it caught on so much in LoL compared to other games?


I dont think TSM really need gunnars to play and wouldnt play without them. Must be part of their contract

I dunno, Chaox at least really seems to like them. He said in a vlog or something that whenever he plays without them, the screen and everything look weird, so I figure at this point he'd use them regardless of sponsorship.
like a school bus through a bunch of kids
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
September 04 2012 17:19 GMT
#6026
they look so nerdy though, and i doubt they help that much since your vision stabilizes after a certain age, they really should just take breaks in between instead of streaming for 8 hours at a time.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35160 Posts
September 04 2012 17:35 GMT
#6027
On September 05 2012 00:30 Slusher wrote:
fair enough,
For me and me alone,

NA only tournaments are reaching online tournament victory status.

To be fair, NA/EU tournaments were like that when M5 was stomping everybody, to me.
Dgiese
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2687 Posts
September 04 2012 18:09 GMT
#6028
On September 05 2012 02:19 zulu_nation8 wrote:
they look so nerdy though, and i doubt they help that much since your vision stabilizes after a certain age, they really should just take breaks in between instead of streaming for 8 hours at a time.

They don't. It's like those magnet wrist bands you see pro athletes advertising, except for nerds.
RajaF
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada530 Posts
September 04 2012 18:14 GMT
#6029
On September 05 2012 03:09 Dgiese wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2012 02:19 zulu_nation8 wrote:
they look so nerdy though, and i doubt they help that much since your vision stabilizes after a certain age, they really should just take breaks in between instead of streaming for 8 hours at a time.

They don't. It's like those magnet wrist bands you see pro athletes advertising, except for nerds.


Actually for some ppl they do help quite a lot. Personally if I don't wear my glasses (not gunnars, but got on Rx with some coating on a vanilla lens which is essentially the exact same thing) and play more than 4 hours straight, I get terrible headaches. Put my glasses on and I can play for 10 hours straight no problems.
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-04 18:33:45
September 04 2012 18:32 GMT
#6030
On September 05 2012 03:14 RajaF wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2012 03:09 Dgiese wrote:
On September 05 2012 02:19 zulu_nation8 wrote:
they look so nerdy though, and i doubt they help that much since your vision stabilizes after a certain age, they really should just take breaks in between instead of streaming for 8 hours at a time.

They don't. It's like those magnet wrist bands you see pro athletes advertising, except for nerds.


Actually for some ppl they do help quite a lot. Personally if I don't wear my glasses (not gunnars, but got on Rx with some coating on a vanilla lens which is essentially the exact same thing) and play more than 4 hours straight, I get terrible headaches. Put my glasses on and I can play for 10 hours straight no problems.

I don't wear glasses, but I've taken to wearing gunnars at work (I got them off woot.com for a fraction of MSRP) and since doing so, I don't have twitchy eyes after a full day on the computer in the office. It could be a placebo effect I suppose; all I've seen is purely anecdotal evidence. I like them, though.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-04 19:06:59
September 04 2012 19:03 GMT
#6031
On September 05 2012 02:35 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2012 00:30 Slusher wrote:
fair enough,
For me and me alone,

NA only tournaments are reaching online tournament victory status.

To be fair, NA/EU tournaments were like that when M5 was stomping everybody, to me.


to which I would say, it's different if someone dominates and they are the best, like, if I thought TSM would dominate just the same with 1 top euro team and 1 top asian team there, then it is fine, but when they are just dominating opponents who don't have a chance, when there are viable opponents out there, it loses value.

On September 05 2012 03:14 RajaF wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2012 03:09 Dgiese wrote:
On September 05 2012 02:19 zulu_nation8 wrote:
they look so nerdy though, and i doubt they help that much since your vision stabilizes after a certain age, they really should just take breaks in between instead of streaming for 8 hours at a time.

They don't. It's like those magnet wrist bands you see pro athletes advertising, except for nerds.


Actually for some ppl they do help quite a lot. Personally if I don't wear my glasses (not gunnars, but got on Rx with some coating on a vanilla lens which is essentially the exact same thing) and play more than 4 hours straight, I get terrible headaches. Put my glasses on and I can play for 10 hours straight no problems.


like do you mean not wearing glasses at all? because then thats just your eyes hurting from having to constantly focus (when you have bad vision your eyes will constantly try to correct it via focus when you don't wear glasses, and it's as fatiguing as it sounds.)
Carrilord has arrived.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35160 Posts
September 04 2012 22:00 GMT
#6032
On September 05 2012 04:03 Slusher wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2012 02:35 Gahlo wrote:
On September 05 2012 00:30 Slusher wrote:
fair enough,
For me and me alone,

NA only tournaments are reaching online tournament victory status.

To be fair, NA/EU tournaments were like that when M5 was stomping everybody, to me.


to which I would say, it's different if someone dominates and they are the best, like, if I thought TSM would dominate just the same with 1 top euro team and 1 top asian team there, then it is fine, but when they are just dominating opponents who don't have a chance, when there are viable opponents out there, it loses value.

Show nested quote +
On September 05 2012 03:14 RajaF wrote:
On September 05 2012 03:09 Dgiese wrote:
On September 05 2012 02:19 zulu_nation8 wrote:
they look so nerdy though, and i doubt they help that much since your vision stabilizes after a certain age, they really should just take breaks in between instead of streaming for 8 hours at a time.

They don't. It's like those magnet wrist bands you see pro athletes advertising, except for nerds.


Actually for some ppl they do help quite a lot. Personally if I don't wear my glasses (not gunnars, but got on Rx with some coating on a vanilla lens which is essentially the exact same thing) and play more than 4 hours straight, I get terrible headaches. Put my glasses on and I can play for 10 hours straight no problems.


like do you mean not wearing glasses at all? because then thats just your eyes hurting from having to constantly focus (when you have bad vision your eyes will constantly try to correct it via focus when you don't wear glasses, and it's as fatiguing as it sounds.)


And when M5 was destroying everybody it was the same thing for me. TSM(M5) are destorying(ed) everybody in X region(s) and only CRS(CLG.EU) stand a chance if they got a bit better.
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
September 04 2012 22:10 GMT
#6033
On September 05 2012 00:03 WhiteDog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2012 12:23 misirlou wrote:
regi talks about bming after the games, then proceeds to BM clg saying they are worse after korea LOL.

Regi outplayed them everytime? His ryze got carried so hard who did he outplay actually?

I do agree Scara saying they didnt do anything is pretty bad and offensive. He should have sayed they played their normal game and we didnt prepare for it. The message is the same and it isnt offensive.

Nice listening skill buddy. Reginald said (two time to make everybody SURE) that CLG didn't get worse, but that they didn't get better, but didn't get worse.

He also said he outplayed scarra this time, and that "they deserved the win" (THAT TRASH TALK), which is true - ryze died 1v1 vs morgana one or two time during the first match, and they just stomped dignitas overall.

Regi didn't outplay scarra at all lol, he got a lvl1 blue buff and just got to shove the lane. I outplay my opponent if he's 2300elo above me too if I get blue buff on morg at lvl1.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
September 04 2012 22:12 GMT
#6034
I'd consider killing scarra 1v1 as morg vs Ryze at lvl 6, where bluebuff didnt matter anymore and+ morg vs gragas baiting him making him whiff his Q while oddone kills him as outplaying him.
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
September 04 2012 22:13 GMT
#6035
On September 05 2012 07:10 JackDino wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2012 00:03 WhiteDog wrote:
On September 04 2012 12:23 misirlou wrote:
regi talks about bming after the games, then proceeds to BM clg saying they are worse after korea LOL.

Regi outplayed them everytime? His ryze got carried so hard who did he outplay actually?

I do agree Scara saying they didnt do anything is pretty bad and offensive. He should have sayed they played their normal game and we didnt prepare for it. The message is the same and it isnt offensive.

Nice listening skill buddy. Reginald said (two time to make everybody SURE) that CLG didn't get worse, but that they didn't get better, but didn't get worse.

He also said he outplayed scarra this time, and that "they deserved the win" (THAT TRASH TALK), which is true - ryze died 1v1 vs morgana one or two time during the first match, and they just stomped dignitas overall.

Regi didn't outplay scarra at all lol, he got a lvl1 blue buff and just got to shove the lane. I outplay my opponent if he's 2300elo above me too if I get blue buff on morg at lvl1.

Except Regi killed Scarra 1v1. That's the definition of outplayed.
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
RajaF
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada530 Posts
September 04 2012 22:39 GMT
#6036
On September 05 2012 04:03 Slusher wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2012 02:35 Gahlo wrote:
On September 05 2012 00:30 Slusher wrote:
fair enough,
For me and me alone,

NA only tournaments are reaching online tournament victory status.

To be fair, NA/EU tournaments were like that when M5 was stomping everybody, to me.


to which I would say, it's different if someone dominates and they are the best, like, if I thought TSM would dominate just the same with 1 top euro team and 1 top asian team there, then it is fine, but when they are just dominating opponents who don't have a chance, when there are viable opponents out there, it loses value.

Show nested quote +
On September 05 2012 03:14 RajaF wrote:
On September 05 2012 03:09 Dgiese wrote:
On September 05 2012 02:19 zulu_nation8 wrote:
they look so nerdy though, and i doubt they help that much since your vision stabilizes after a certain age, they really should just take breaks in between instead of streaming for 8 hours at a time.

They don't. It's like those magnet wrist bands you see pro athletes advertising, except for nerds.


Actually for some ppl they do help quite a lot. Personally if I don't wear my glasses (not gunnars, but got on Rx with some coating on a vanilla lens which is essentially the exact same thing) and play more than 4 hours straight, I get terrible headaches. Put my glasses on and I can play for 10 hours straight no problems.


like do you mean not wearing glasses at all? because then thats just your eyes hurting from having to constantly focus (when you have bad vision your eyes will constantly try to correct it via focus when you don't wear glasses, and it's as fatiguing as it sounds.)


I don't wear glasses at all. I have 20/20 vision and no issues with light, focusing or anything like that. The glasses that I do wear for computer use don't do any vision correction. They just have a protective (reflexive or something like that) coating that helps with staring at a light source for extended ammounts of time. Same thing as Gunnars supposedly but not 100$ a pair.
WhiteDog
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France8650 Posts
September 04 2012 22:46 GMT
#6037
On September 05 2012 07:10 JackDino wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2012 00:03 WhiteDog wrote:
On September 04 2012 12:23 misirlou wrote:
regi talks about bming after the games, then proceeds to BM clg saying they are worse after korea LOL.

Regi outplayed them everytime? His ryze got carried so hard who did he outplay actually?

I do agree Scara saying they didnt do anything is pretty bad and offensive. He should have sayed they played their normal game and we didnt prepare for it. The message is the same and it isnt offensive.

Nice listening skill buddy. Reginald said (two time to make everybody SURE) that CLG didn't get worse, but that they didn't get better, but didn't get worse.

He also said he outplayed scarra this time, and that "they deserved the win" (THAT TRASH TALK), which is true - ryze died 1v1 vs morgana one or two time during the first match, and they just stomped dignitas overall.

Regi didn't outplay scarra at all lol, he got a lvl1 blue buff and just got to shove the lane. I outplay my opponent if he's 2300elo above me too if I get blue buff on morg at lvl1.

And when he dodged Scarra's Gragas spells and stayed mid just to let oddone come and get the kill ? It's ridiculous, he just won accept it.
"every time WhiteDog overuses the word "seriously" in a comment I can make an observation on his fragile emotional state." MoltkeWarding
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35160 Posts
September 05 2012 01:07 GMT
#6038
On September 05 2012 07:46 WhiteDog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2012 07:10 JackDino wrote:
On September 05 2012 00:03 WhiteDog wrote:
On September 04 2012 12:23 misirlou wrote:
regi talks about bming after the games, then proceeds to BM clg saying they are worse after korea LOL.

Regi outplayed them everytime? His ryze got carried so hard who did he outplay actually?

I do agree Scara saying they didnt do anything is pretty bad and offensive. He should have sayed they played their normal game and we didnt prepare for it. The message is the same and it isnt offensive.

Nice listening skill buddy. Reginald said (two time to make everybody SURE) that CLG didn't get worse, but that they didn't get better, but didn't get worse.

He also said he outplayed scarra this time, and that "they deserved the win" (THAT TRASH TALK), which is true - ryze died 1v1 vs morgana one or two time during the first match, and they just stomped dignitas overall.

Regi didn't outplay scarra at all lol, he got a lvl1 blue buff and just got to shove the lane. I outplay my opponent if he's 2300elo above me too if I get blue buff on morg at lvl1.

And when he dodged Scarra's Gragas spells and stayed mid just to let oddone come and get the kill ? It's ridiculous, he just won accept it.

No, no, no, you see when TSM does well it isn't because they played well. When they are destroying everything it's because their opponents didn't play well and when they lose they're the worst team ever that needs to change their lineup.

Every damn tournament, I swear. -.-
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-05 16:07:20
September 05 2012 16:05 GMT
#6039
Oh btw.

During the finals I sat next to the guy with the "ban scarra" sign. During the inter-game session, there were a lot of SWAGs being tossed around. By chance, one shirt landed on the feet of the "ban scarra" guy, but he decided to give it to me instead.

I think he deserves some recognition. Good "ban scarra" guy. I was very thankful of what he did because I was never able to get the shirt (Kog'Maw airgun too stronk; hit me directly once on Friday.... it hurt a lot.... plus I didn't even get the shirt that time)
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