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JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
September 02 2012 12:41 GMT
#4821
On September 02 2012 21:05 D u o wrote:
Is it just me or does rivington sound super scripted with everything he says? Lmao

He's not scripted, he's just milling about.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
GeorgeForeman
Profile Joined April 2005
United States1746 Posts
September 02 2012 13:35 GMT
#4822
It's just weird that the casters can't have a conversation with eachother. There's never any synergy with the casting comps they use. A sports broadcast at its best is a back-and-forth between a play-by-play man (who in the case of LoL's job should NOT be yelling incoherently about things that will or will no happen during a teamfight because its simply impossible to describe everything that's going on) and a analyst. There should be a give and take between the two, with the play-by-play guy briefly describing what's going on in the lanes and the analyst making comments like, "That matchup favors the red team because they'll be able to poke more. But if he doesn't win the lane with that, the blue champion will scale better into late game because of blah blah...."

Instead they seem to take turns blathering about random stuff and then screaming during teamfights. :-(

Oh well. Just goes to show we need professional casters doing this rather than people whose main job is to create video content and the like; it's a quite different gig.
like a school bus through a bunch of kids
phyvo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5635 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-02 14:22:46
September 02 2012 14:22 GMT
#4823
On September 02 2012 22:35 GeorgeForeman wrote:
It's just weird that the casters can't have a conversation with eachother. There's never any synergy with the casting comps they use. A sports broadcast at its best is a back-and-forth between a play-by-play man (who in the case of LoL's job should NOT be yelling incoherently about things that will or will no happen during a teamfight because its simply impossible to describe everything that's going on) and a analyst. There should be a give and take between the two, with the play-by-play guy briefly describing what's going on in the lanes and the analyst making comments like, "That matchup favors the red team because they'll be able to poke more. But if he doesn't win the lane with that, the blue champion will scale better into late game because of blah blah...."

Instead they seem to take turns blathering about random stuff and then screaming during teamfights. :-(

Oh well. Just goes to show we need professional casters doing this rather than people whose main job is to create video content and the like; it's a quite different gig.


Actually, Phreak's forum title now says "shoutcaster". huehuehuehueHUE we're stuck with him.

I again lift up Tobiwan as my favorite play by play caster of any game. Like the screen can just be exploding and somehow he makes sense of it into a coherent story while expressing his excitement in varied tones of voice I've never heard anyone else use with any emotional honesty.

Maybe that's a little hyperbolic but IMO he just goes to show that play-by-play casting can have exceptional quality to it and add just as much to the experience as a great analytical caster.
"BE A MANGO TO SLEEP LIKE A SNORING TIGER" - Monte
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-02 14:45:51
September 02 2012 14:40 GMT
#4824
I mean, it's not a lot of commentary because they stop talking during the actual point, but I do enjoy the synergy in tennis commentaries. They have a good balance between a charismatic dude with a great voice (ie Dick Enberg) and then a more stern analytical commentator (John McEnroe). Those aren't their defined roles of course, but they work together very well.

The casters in league just seem like they're trying to grab the spotlight at times and any down time between their voices spewing out random stuff (a lot of it is just pure nonsense if you actually pay attention) seems to be taboo for them.
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Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-02 14:48:14
September 02 2012 14:48 GMT
#4825
On September 02 2012 23:40 Zergneedsfood wrote:
I mean, it's not a lot of commentary because they stop talking during the actual point, but I do enjoy the synergy in tennis commentaries. They have a good balance between a charismatic dude with a great voice (ie Dick Enberg) and then a more stern analytical commentator (John McEnroe). Those aren't their defined roles of course, but they work together very well.

The casters in league just seem like they're trying to grab the spotlight at times and any down time between their voices spewing out random stuff (a lot of it is just pure nonsense if you actually pay attention) seems to be taboo for them.

You might want to specify who you are talking about but I am pretty sure its Rivington and Phreak.
With Jatt and Jaws the roles are pretty clearly defined.
Off-season = best season
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22415 Posts
September 02 2012 14:48 GMT
#4826
On September 02 2012 23:22 phyvo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2012 22:35 GeorgeForeman wrote:
It's just weird that the casters can't have a conversation with eachother. There's never any synergy with the casting comps they use. A sports broadcast at its best is a back-and-forth between a play-by-play man (who in the case of LoL's job should NOT be yelling incoherently about things that will or will no happen during a teamfight because its simply impossible to describe everything that's going on) and a analyst. There should be a give and take between the two, with the play-by-play guy briefly describing what's going on in the lanes and the analyst making comments like, "That matchup favors the red team because they'll be able to poke more. But if he doesn't win the lane with that, the blue champion will scale better into late game because of blah blah...."

Instead they seem to take turns blathering about random stuff and then screaming during teamfights. :-(

Oh well. Just goes to show we need professional casters doing this rather than people whose main job is to create video content and the like; it's a quite different gig.


Actually, Phreak's forum title now says "shoutcaster". huehuehuehueHUE we're stuck with him.

I again lift up Tobiwan as my favorite play by play caster of any game. Like the screen can just be exploding and somehow he makes sense of it into a coherent story while expressing his excitement in varied tones of voice I've never heard anyone else use with any emotional honesty.

Maybe that's a little hyperbolic but IMO he just goes to show that play-by-play casting can have exceptional quality to it and add just as much to the experience as a great analytical caster.


Toby does have a big advantage tho. As far as i know he has done professional voice work. His voice is a ton better then almost anyone in the business.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-02 14:52:37
September 02 2012 14:51 GMT
#4827
On September 02 2012 23:48 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2012 23:40 Zergneedsfood wrote:
I mean, it's not a lot of commentary because they stop talking during the actual point, but I do enjoy the synergy in tennis commentaries. They have a good balance between a charismatic dude with a great voice (ie Dick Enberg) and then a more stern analytical commentator (John McEnroe). Those aren't their defined roles of course, but they work together very well.

The casters in league just seem like they're trying to grab the spotlight at times and any down time between their voices spewing out random stuff (a lot of it is just pure nonsense if you actually pay attention) seems to be taboo for them.

You might want to specify who you are talking about but I am pretty sure its Rivington and Phreak.
With Jatt and Jaws the roles are pretty clearly defined.


As far as the second part of my post was directed at most casters, and the first part is probably just me thinking there's not enough fun people to listen to. (I think I like Deman, if I'm thinking of the right person. He has a very entertaining voice).

Well, in most cases, everyone sounds like they're spouting nonsense at least 50% of the time. Just from a content standpoint, it's not very appealing to listen to because they spend a significant amount of time just using crutch phrases and filler words to fill up time.

It's kind of like how when I first did speech and debate, in order to not flub, I just used as many filler words as physically possible so I could bridge the gap between the actual content, which was awful because it was annoying to listen to.
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koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
September 02 2012 14:54 GMT
#4828
Has that riven icon code already been distributed?
Takkara
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2503 Posts
September 02 2012 14:55 GMT
#4829
Funny how people regard the casters how they're starting to regard the players in LoL:

Korea > EU > NA

huehue

</lighttroll>
Gee gee gee gee baby baby baby
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22415 Posts
September 02 2012 15:15 GMT
#4830
On September 02 2012 23:55 Takkara wrote:
Funny how people regard the casters how they're starting to regard the players in LoL:

Korea > EU > NA

huehue

</lighttroll>


Deman/Jatt/Joe > Korea > the rest.
And i dont even speak Korean
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Jaso
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2147 Posts
September 02 2012 15:25 GMT
#4831
Wow this kinda sucks for the teams. Both of the teams which have put money (or plan to) into a nice gaming house are now in the 3rd place match and only one of them will actually be able to fully use it for S2 championship. Probably more financial burden for CLG though since they don't have a huge organization like Curse behind them.
derp
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35173 Posts
September 02 2012 15:29 GMT
#4832
On September 02 2012 23:54 koreasilver wrote:
Has that riven icon code already been distributed?

Finals for Worlds.
Gondlem
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia642 Posts
September 02 2012 15:33 GMT
#4833
If Curse/CLG miss out, there is still another chance to qualify for the season finals, right?
IceSin
Profile Joined March 2012
Canada81 Posts
September 02 2012 15:36 GMT
#4834
On September 03 2012 00:33 Gondlem wrote:
If Curse/CLG miss out, there is still another chance to qualify for the season finals, right?


nope. only 3 teams from NA are going
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-02 15:37:46
September 02 2012 15:37 GMT
#4835
On September 03 2012 00:33 Gondlem wrote:
If Curse/CLG miss out, there is still another chance to qualify for the season finals, right?

Not for the Season 2 World Championships no.

Afaik, for Season 3 though, when it starts there will be additional qualifiers and Relegation matches. Think how in GSL Code S has people seeded into Code S and then Up/Down matches from Code A. It's going to be sort of like that.

Sort of.
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
September 02 2012 15:40 GMT
#4836
Once blood brothers now mortal enemy's.
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What a cruel word we live in
Cackle™
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35173 Posts
September 02 2012 15:44 GMT
#4837
Does Riot want feedback from the VOD playback on their channel?
SnK-Arcbound
Profile Joined March 2005
United States4423 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-02 15:56:27
September 02 2012 15:55 GMT
#4838
On September 03 2012 00:44 Gahlo wrote:
Does Riot want feedback from the VOD playback on their channel?

If it's on uStream, pretty sure they want feedback.

edit: Also 2 hours from this post is when it starts again.
Jaksiel
Profile Joined November 2008
United States4130 Posts
September 02 2012 15:55 GMT
#4839
On September 03 2012 00:25 Jaso wrote:
Wow this kinda sucks for the teams. Both of the teams which have put money (or plan to) into a nice gaming house are now in the 3rd place match and only one of them will actually be able to fully use it for S2 championship. Probably more financial burden for CLG though since they don't have a huge organization like Curse behind them.


Doesn't TSM have a gaming house also? Maybe I'm misinterpreting the point you're making.
Zero fighting.
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
September 02 2012 16:04 GMT
#4840
Is it allowed to restream this championship? I might as well do it since I don't have any problems with ustream and have good quality but I don't want to get trouble :O
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