GM / Master map hacker and general hacking and cheating th…

On December 10 2012 08:41 RoarMan wrote:

It's true, Dragon is a known MH but now has reformed.

Reformation is possible, honestly this thread doesn't do much except to give players scapegoats to point fingers too. Now I've never EVER maphacked in my life and I think MAPHACKING IS ABSOLUTELY WRONG in the spirit of the game. However in the grand scope of things, the way in which maphackers are being compared to child predators and other criminals is just unfair and unwarranted.

On December 10 2012 08:31 ErAsc2 wrote:


Perhaps start streaming regularly. Dragon maphacked once aswell. Then he began streaming all of his play and now he's doing really well, featured on TL etc..

On December 07 2012 13:35 Zhearsgu wrote:
Name: Analthaabe sc2ranks profile: sc2ranks profile
Server: EU
Replay: http://drop.sc/282357
League: 689 points Masters
Description: ZvP on Ohana me (z) opening mutalisk (testing to play all matchups without any infestors).
He opens stargate. Does not scout anything (except initial probe scout).
Gets robo, but only builds one immortal (started to build it before i got spire)
When my spire goes down, blink and Templar archives are researched/built ASAP.
Placing down 4 defensive cannons to defend vs mutas before they are revealed.

12:00 Mutalisk harass , he moves units into position before anything is scouted. the same second they are within vision range, army moves to engage.
12:15 Storms hit without watching mutalisks.
camera does not move from 12:14 to 12:26, during mutalisk harass. stalkers move and storms are used.
14:10 Stalkers are built outside of vision.

15:20 : Perfectly mirroring mutalisks moves with his army when they move in to harass at third. ( has no vision of mutalisks)
Mutalisks having greater visionrange then cannons( during warpin), see cannons and move away. His army moves away directly when mutas do. never seeing the mutalisks.

16:27 Moves camera directly over my mutalisks outside my 4th. No vision

17:01 Moves camera directly to my roach army that is moving out. No vision
17:10 Moves units to third to protect against that roach wave.
17:13 Moves perfect timing on mutas moving in to main.
18:02 Moves camera to watch my mutalisks still outside his main. No vision
20:05 Moves army to kill those mutalisks that the camera recently moved over( changes entire army direction before mutalisks are visable).
Not a single observer the entire game!


Talked with him, he encouraged me to post on TL several times saying " Im known on both eu and kr server not cheating. You are always welcome to make a topic on TL if you believe I use any kind of hacks"
Posting entire conversation, he tries to explain some of the things in the replay.

+ Show Spoiler +

So, what do you guys think?

[Edit]
(with regards to his defense that he spotted the shadows of the mutalisks at his third)
Do you guys know if shadows from mutalisks can be spotted by the opponent even if the mutalisks are not in vision?( I did not think you could)
In replay-mode you don't see the shadows if you don't see the mutalisks when having only the protoss players vision.

Noticed now that he moved his army before the shadow was within vision range as well.
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On December 10 2012 11:00 nunez wrote:
Hacker name: etNa
Server: EU
League: master, 365 points, 45 wins / 11 losses
Description:

soulbrother (z, top right) vs etNa (t, bot left) @ antiga shipyard

@2:48 etNa is going cc first, no scout. pulls scv prematurely when my drone scout is entering his nat. attack click next to my drone on minimap, it's not to scout.
when i notice this i decide to test him so i go for a baneling bust off two base (or maybe i'm just a cheesy bastard anyways mahaha).
@6:05 looks into my main (has not scouted my spawn at this time, nor have i sent any overlords into his vision (when i confront him after the game he says he knew from the timing of my overlords). the camera pans down to my natural where i have placed the banenest, and he scans there and sees the baneling nest and puts down 5 bunkers.
i cancel the banenest and take a third after being scanned
@7:30 blindly salvages his bunkers and opens up his front, didn't send out an scv or scout.
@8:50 i am going for a nydus, he's setting his rally points to the main.
@8:55 i put down a nydus in the corner of his base, he immediately sends 5 marines to the smoke from his natural ramp.
@13:46 he has his army in the middle. i put up another nydus in the smoke in his main, he still doesn't have vision. he grabs some units rallying out and stims the marins to the smoke. no vision at all.
@13:59 he sends a group of marines on a queued attack move to the hidden expo at 6 o'clock and then 12 o'clock, but no other bases. he has no scouting.
@14:15 cheeky look into fog of war at my ling bane.

after pming some of the people he had recently played against i got two reps from Kolento who had already reported him twice.

Kolento (t, top left) vs etNa (t, bot right) @ ohana
@4:44 both open reaper expand, Kolentos a bit ahead. instead of moving out with his reaper, etNa moves his reaper and marine to the natural and waits, when Kolentos reaper pops up he is looking at where it comes in and has his marine and reaper selected, ready to pounce.
Kolento immediately calls him out on it.
@5:43 Kolento moves up ramp with his reper, etNa has his units selected and does a catch.
@6:47 looks into fog of war at K's front as he sends his reapers up to the nat.
@7:26 when his reaper dies and his vision is shrouded by FOW the camera jumps back to his natural mineral line, without any selections. not sure about what this is, but seems a bit strange.
@12:20 moves his army to K's fourth exp ramp to kill a marine.

Kolento (t, top right) vs etNa (t, bot right) @ antiga shipyard

@2:20 sends scv to 'scout', queues up a move command into Kolentos base, then a half circle around the place the cc would be and then queues it up to return to his base.
@4:23 both are again going reaper expands, K again ahead. etNa positions a marine and an scv next to the fog in his main, but K is coming up from the nat. he moves the scv and marine towards the ramp instead. has no vision of the reaper.
@6:06 etNa has three reapers sitting in the smoke in his main
@10:46 is presplitting his army as K's bio push comes into vision outside his third and natural ramp. he has no knowledge of this push.
@12:57 K queus up a drop into his main mineral line, etNa is builds 3 turrets there, but none at his third.
@13:07 stims 5 marines to run to his main mineral line where the drop is incoming, he has no vision of it.
@14:07 looks into FOW at K's army.
@14:31 pre splits his army in the middle, and stims his entire army attacking into kolentas army that he has no vision of.
@15:53 stims before he has vision of K's army.

almost doesn't scan in either of the tvts, maybe one or two where he needs vision for his tanks.

Conclusion:

no scouting, blidnly scanning my nat to see the baneling nest when he doesn't even know what spawn, countering builds, perfect unit movement with no knowledge, looking through fog of war. no automation but a maphacker for sure.