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You have to provide some kind of evidence/proof (screenshots/replays etc.) if you are going to accuse somebody.
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Yes, that was me IMBA. I have alrdy contacted Cloaken about him and he is currently on his case. Shouldn't be long but good to provide additional proof. It seems easy to find out the new accounts hackers make after getting banned since they all play together and it isn't hard to connect the dots really.
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On December 10 2012 09:08 PanN wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2012 08:31 ErAsc2 wrote:On December 10 2012 05:07 Scholera wrote:On December 10 2012 05:05 Zennith wrote:
You also understand we have no way and/or reason to believe you, right? Safer to just label you as a hacker and play cautiously when we see you on ladder.
I mean, frankly, you should just be banned anyway. Of course you do. 2 Replays on the exact same day... my play is the exact same level as when I was hacking.... I was also here explaining it on the exact same day... and nobody has been here with the notion of me hacking since... and despite playing since the day of release, nobody's ever heard of me hacking before... There's no single piece of evidence, explicit or implicit that DOESN'T show that I'm telling the truth. Perhaps start streaming regularly. Dragon maphacked once aswell. Then he began streaming all of his play and now he's doing really well, featured on TL etc.. I don't know why people still to this day believe that if you stream, you don't hack. You can stream and hack at the same time...
...right. I thougt it was kind of obvious that I meant streaming himself playing while not maphacking (lol). If somebody wants to come clean, it's easy by just perhaps streaming all of his play for maybe a couple of weeks and prove that he's still about the same GM rank or whatever.
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Hacker name: Hailey
Server: NA
League: Masters
Replay: http://drop.sc/283735
Description: I play random and roll zerg, he's Terran on Antiga Shipyard. About a minute in, before any of his SCVs have gotten even halfway across the map, he says "no 6 pool? i'm disappointed". He knows what race I am AND that I am building drones, or at least not building a spawning pool. His scout gets to my base on first try, plants Engineering bay to block my natural hatch without scouting my main to confirm I am there (it IS possible that he saw my overlord and decided not to go into my main, but that's very uncommon). I then go for a one base baneling bust. He says "gl with that baneling bust", again without ever having seen the inside of my main (again, could be a guess), he then takes his 6 barracks that he has built and forms a wall at his ramp to prevent against the unscouted baneling bust. I won the game with speedlings and banelings and a spine, but he was taunting me with the fact that he had map hacks.
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On December 12 2012 13:56 ErAsc2 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2012 09:08 PanN wrote:On December 10 2012 08:31 ErAsc2 wrote:On December 10 2012 05:07 Scholera wrote:On December 10 2012 05:05 Zennith wrote:
You also understand we have no way and/or reason to believe you, right? Safer to just label you as a hacker and play cautiously when we see you on ladder.
I mean, frankly, you should just be banned anyway. Of course you do. 2 Replays on the exact same day... my play is the exact same level as when I was hacking.... I was also here explaining it on the exact same day... and nobody has been here with the notion of me hacking since... and despite playing since the day of release, nobody's ever heard of me hacking before... There's no single piece of evidence, explicit or implicit that DOESN'T show that I'm telling the truth. Perhaps start streaming regularly. Dragon maphacked once aswell. Then he began streaming all of his play and now he's doing really well, featured on TL etc.. I don't know why people still to this day believe that if you stream, you don't hack. You can stream and hack at the same time... ...right. I thougt it was kind of obvious that I meant streaming himself playing while not maphacking (lol). If somebody wants to come clean, it's easy by just perhaps streaming all of his play for maybe a couple of weeks and prove that he's still about the same GM rank or whatever.
You're not getting what im saying.
You can stream your gameplay, appear to play legitly, while still map hacking using a 2nd monitor (this won't be shown on the stream obviously.)
Streaming proves nothing.
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On December 09 2012 18:47 Scholera wrote:Show nested quote +On December 09 2012 08:42 andrea20 wrote:
Your only regret is that you got caught. Actually, the worst thing to do was to actually acknowledge it. Regret? Got Caught? I clicked a button and it took 3 seconds downloading something and then I spent a few hours seeing if it worked and what it was like and then I was done, you're being ridiculous, why would I deny that? @Rickyvalle: Bronze cant get masters with maphacks... diamond, yes, top plat possible but unlikely, but bronze noway has anywhere near the mechanics
i beg to differ http://drop.sc/283747
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On December 12 2012 14:14 PanN wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2012 13:56 ErAsc2 wrote:On December 10 2012 09:08 PanN wrote:On December 10 2012 08:31 ErAsc2 wrote:On December 10 2012 05:07 Scholera wrote:On December 10 2012 05:05 Zennith wrote:
You also understand we have no way and/or reason to believe you, right? Safer to just label you as a hacker and play cautiously when we see you on ladder.
I mean, frankly, you should just be banned anyway. Of course you do. 2 Replays on the exact same day... my play is the exact same level as when I was hacking.... I was also here explaining it on the exact same day... and nobody has been here with the notion of me hacking since... and despite playing since the day of release, nobody's ever heard of me hacking before... There's no single piece of evidence, explicit or implicit that DOESN'T show that I'm telling the truth. Perhaps start streaming regularly. Dragon maphacked once aswell. Then he began streaming all of his play and now he's doing really well, featured on TL etc.. I don't know why people still to this day believe that if you stream, you don't hack. You can stream and hack at the same time... ...right. I thougt it was kind of obvious that I meant streaming himself playing while not maphacking (lol). If somebody wants to come clean, it's easy by just perhaps streaming all of his play for maybe a couple of weeks and prove that he's still about the same GM rank or whatever. You're not getting what im saying. You can stream your gameplay, appear to play legitly, while still map hacking using a 2nd monitor (this won't be shown on the stream obviously.) Streaming proves nothing.
err... no you can't.
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On December 12 2012 16:52 ErAsc2 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2012 14:14 PanN wrote:On December 12 2012 13:56 ErAsc2 wrote:On December 10 2012 09:08 PanN wrote:On December 10 2012 08:31 ErAsc2 wrote:On December 10 2012 05:07 Scholera wrote:On December 10 2012 05:05 Zennith wrote:
You also understand we have no way and/or reason to believe you, right? Safer to just label you as a hacker and play cautiously when we see you on ladder.
I mean, frankly, you should just be banned anyway. Of course you do. 2 Replays on the exact same day... my play is the exact same level as when I was hacking.... I was also here explaining it on the exact same day... and nobody has been here with the notion of me hacking since... and despite playing since the day of release, nobody's ever heard of me hacking before... There's no single piece of evidence, explicit or implicit that DOESN'T show that I'm telling the truth. Perhaps start streaming regularly. Dragon maphacked once aswell. Then he began streaming all of his play and now he's doing really well, featured on TL etc.. I don't know why people still to this day believe that if you stream, you don't hack. You can stream and hack at the same time... ...right. I thougt it was kind of obvious that I meant streaming himself playing while not maphacking (lol). If somebody wants to come clean, it's easy by just perhaps streaming all of his play for maybe a couple of weeks and prove that he's still about the same GM rank or whatever. You're not getting what im saying. You can stream your gameplay, appear to play legitly, while still map hacking using a 2nd monitor (this won't be shown on the stream obviously.) Streaming proves nothing. err... no you can't.
afaik it is possible (not only possible but even a feature of f.ex xsplit) to hide processes (hacks do not modify sc2 directly), so you wouldn't even need two monitors.
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On December 12 2012 14:06 envisioN . wrote:Hacker name: Hailey Server: NA League: Masters Replay: http://drop.sc/283735Description: I play random and roll zerg, he's Terran on Antiga Shipyard. About a minute in, before any of his SCVs have gotten even halfway across the map, he says "no 6 pool? i'm disappointed". He knows what race I am AND that I am building drones, or at least not building a spawning pool. His scout gets to my base on first try, plants Engineering bay to block my natural hatch without scouting my main to confirm I am there (it IS possible that he saw my overlord and decided not to go into my main, but that's very uncommon). I then go for a one base baneling bust. He says "gl with that baneling bust", again without ever having seen the inside of my main (again, could be a guess), he then takes his 6 barracks that he has built and forms a wall at his ramp to prevent against the unscouted baneling bust. I won the game with speedlings and banelings and a spine, but he was taunting me with the fact that he had map hacks.
indeed, check out my post
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=340614¤tpage=196#3901
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I just want to say how flabbergasted i am by the number of people using hacks. I've always known that there are hackers, but so many? It's just sad.
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On December 12 2012 16:57 nunez wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2012 16:52 ErAsc2 wrote:On December 12 2012 14:14 PanN wrote:On December 12 2012 13:56 ErAsc2 wrote:On December 10 2012 09:08 PanN wrote:On December 10 2012 08:31 ErAsc2 wrote:On December 10 2012 05:07 Scholera wrote:On December 10 2012 05:05 Zennith wrote:
You also understand we have no way and/or reason to believe you, right? Safer to just label you as a hacker and play cautiously when we see you on ladder.
I mean, frankly, you should just be banned anyway. Of course you do. 2 Replays on the exact same day... my play is the exact same level as when I was hacking.... I was also here explaining it on the exact same day... and nobody has been here with the notion of me hacking since... and despite playing since the day of release, nobody's ever heard of me hacking before... There's no single piece of evidence, explicit or implicit that DOESN'T show that I'm telling the truth. Perhaps start streaming regularly. Dragon maphacked once aswell. Then he began streaming all of his play and now he's doing really well, featured on TL etc.. I don't know why people still to this day believe that if you stream, you don't hack. You can stream and hack at the same time... ...right. I thougt it was kind of obvious that I meant streaming himself playing while not maphacking (lol). If somebody wants to come clean, it's easy by just perhaps streaming all of his play for maybe a couple of weeks and prove that he's still about the same GM rank or whatever. You're not getting what im saying. You can stream your gameplay, appear to play legitly, while still map hacking using a 2nd monitor (this won't be shown on the stream obviously.) Streaming proves nothing. err... no you can't. afaik it is possible (not only possible but even a feature of f.ex xsplit) to hide processes (hacks do not modify sc2 directly), so you wouldn't even need two monitors.
I wouldn't believe that until I see it to be honest. Is there any evidence of this ever happening/being possible or is this just all speculations? Would be interesting to see one of you guys claiming this is possible to just download a hack and stream doing it real quick on a trail account or something.
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On December 12 2012 17:41 ErAsc2 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2012 16:57 nunez wrote:On December 12 2012 16:52 ErAsc2 wrote:On December 12 2012 14:14 PanN wrote:On December 12 2012 13:56 ErAsc2 wrote:On December 10 2012 09:08 PanN wrote:On December 10 2012 08:31 ErAsc2 wrote:On December 10 2012 05:07 Scholera wrote:On December 10 2012 05:05 Zennith wrote:
You also understand we have no way and/or reason to believe you, right? Safer to just label you as a hacker and play cautiously when we see you on ladder.
I mean, frankly, you should just be banned anyway. Of course you do. 2 Replays on the exact same day... my play is the exact same level as when I was hacking.... I was also here explaining it on the exact same day... and nobody has been here with the notion of me hacking since... and despite playing since the day of release, nobody's ever heard of me hacking before... There's no single piece of evidence, explicit or implicit that DOESN'T show that I'm telling the truth. Perhaps start streaming regularly. Dragon maphacked once aswell. Then he began streaming all of his play and now he's doing really well, featured on TL etc.. I don't know why people still to this day believe that if you stream, you don't hack. You can stream and hack at the same time... ...right. I thougt it was kind of obvious that I meant streaming himself playing while not maphacking (lol). If somebody wants to come clean, it's easy by just perhaps streaming all of his play for maybe a couple of weeks and prove that he's still about the same GM rank or whatever. You're not getting what im saying. You can stream your gameplay, appear to play legitly, while still map hacking using a 2nd monitor (this won't be shown on the stream obviously.) Streaming proves nothing. err... no you can't. afaik it is possible (not only possible but even a feature of f.ex xsplit) to hide processes (hacks do not modify sc2 directly), so you wouldn't even need two monitors. I wouldn't believe that until I see it to be honest. Is there any evidence of this ever happening/being possible or is this just all speculations? Would be interesting to see one of you guys claiming this is possible to just download a hack and stream doing it real quick on a trail account or something.
some hacks (i can't speak for all) extract memory from sc2 and presenting the data in an overlay (take a quick look at repo at opensource hack from hacking site to confirm this). combine them with f.ex stream privacy and voila. xsplit also has 'gamesource' which only captures the game you specify, so any hacks external you'd use wouldn't show up.
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updated op with new batch.
On December 10 2012 04:29 kcdc wrote:
Has Blizz acted on any of the confirmed hackers in months? Does this thread have any effect on reducing the number of hackers on ladder?
no, it doesn't seem like it. will probably try to make a summary post on battle.net/reddit/whatever before christmas with the latest additions to see if that helps, but keep in mind that that is only one of the purposes of this thread.
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On December 12 2012 18:31 nunez wrote:updated op with new batch. Show nested quote +On December 10 2012 04:29 kcdc wrote:
Has Blizz acted on any of the confirmed hackers in months? Does this thread have any effect on reducing the number of hackers on ladder? no, it doesn't seem like it. will probably try to make a summary post on battle.net/reddit/whatever before christmas with the latest additions to see if that helps, but keep in mind that that is only one of the purposes of this thread.
Even if Blizzard doesn't do anything, I'm glad this thread exists. Thanks for all the work you put in.
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On December 12 2012 17:41 ErAsc2 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2012 16:57 nunez wrote:On December 12 2012 16:52 ErAsc2 wrote:On December 12 2012 14:14 PanN wrote:On December 12 2012 13:56 ErAsc2 wrote:On December 10 2012 09:08 PanN wrote:On December 10 2012 08:31 ErAsc2 wrote:On December 10 2012 05:07 Scholera wrote:On December 10 2012 05:05 Zennith wrote:
You also understand we have no way and/or reason to believe you, right? Safer to just label you as a hacker and play cautiously when we see you on ladder.
I mean, frankly, you should just be banned anyway. Of course you do. 2 Replays on the exact same day... my play is the exact same level as when I was hacking.... I was also here explaining it on the exact same day... and nobody has been here with the notion of me hacking since... and despite playing since the day of release, nobody's ever heard of me hacking before... There's no single piece of evidence, explicit or implicit that DOESN'T show that I'm telling the truth. Perhaps start streaming regularly. Dragon maphacked once aswell. Then he began streaming all of his play and now he's doing really well, featured on TL etc.. I don't know why people still to this day believe that if you stream, you don't hack. You can stream and hack at the same time... ...right. I thougt it was kind of obvious that I meant streaming himself playing while not maphacking (lol). If somebody wants to come clean, it's easy by just perhaps streaming all of his play for maybe a couple of weeks and prove that he's still about the same GM rank or whatever. You're not getting what im saying. You can stream your gameplay, appear to play legitly, while still map hacking using a 2nd monitor (this won't be shown on the stream obviously.) Streaming proves nothing. err... no you can't. afaik it is possible (not only possible but even a feature of f.ex xsplit) to hide processes (hacks do not modify sc2 directly), so you wouldn't even need two monitors. I wouldn't believe that until I see it to be honest. Is there any evidence of this ever happening/being possible or is this just all speculations? Would be interesting to see one of you guys claiming this is possible to just download a hack and stream doing it real quick on a trail account or something.
Hacking on a second monitor doesn't sound possible.. I heard someone claim you could stream while map hacking without the map hacks showing if you used xsplit to capture a game source instead of screen region. It was just some random guy bragging about map hacking in the team liquid chat channel though, so he might have been talking out of his ass.
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Just wanna say I called out Demonoid for maphacking months ago in the previous topic and no one agreed with me, just out of curiosity can you check this replay for any weird clicks nunez?
http://drop.sc/202248
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On December 12 2012 19:32 RemarK wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2012 17:41 ErAsc2 wrote:On December 12 2012 16:57 nunez wrote:On December 12 2012 16:52 ErAsc2 wrote:On December 12 2012 14:14 PanN wrote:On December 12 2012 13:56 ErAsc2 wrote:On December 10 2012 09:08 PanN wrote:On December 10 2012 08:31 ErAsc2 wrote:On December 10 2012 05:07 Scholera wrote:On December 10 2012 05:05 Zennith wrote:
You also understand we have no way and/or reason to believe you, right? Safer to just label you as a hacker and play cautiously when we see you on ladder.
I mean, frankly, you should just be banned anyway. Of course you do. 2 Replays on the exact same day... my play is the exact same level as when I was hacking.... I was also here explaining it on the exact same day... and nobody has been here with the notion of me hacking since... and despite playing since the day of release, nobody's ever heard of me hacking before... There's no single piece of evidence, explicit or implicit that DOESN'T show that I'm telling the truth. Perhaps start streaming regularly. Dragon maphacked once aswell. Then he began streaming all of his play and now he's doing really well, featured on TL etc.. I don't know why people still to this day believe that if you stream, you don't hack. You can stream and hack at the same time... ...right. I thougt it was kind of obvious that I meant streaming himself playing while not maphacking (lol). If somebody wants to come clean, it's easy by just perhaps streaming all of his play for maybe a couple of weeks and prove that he's still about the same GM rank or whatever. You're not getting what im saying. You can stream your gameplay, appear to play legitly, while still map hacking using a 2nd monitor (this won't be shown on the stream obviously.) Streaming proves nothing. err... no you can't. afaik it is possible (not only possible but even a feature of f.ex xsplit) to hide processes (hacks do not modify sc2 directly), so you wouldn't even need two monitors. I wouldn't believe that until I see it to be honest. Is there any evidence of this ever happening/being possible or is this just all speculations? Would be interesting to see one of you guys claiming this is possible to just download a hack and stream doing it real quick on a trail account or something. Hacking on a second monitor doesn't sound possible.. I heard someone claim you could stream while map hacking without the map hacks showing if you used xsplit to capture a game source instead of screen region. It was just some random guy bragging about map hacking in the team liquid chat channel though, so he might have been talking out of his ass.
Actually if you have a second monitor it would be pretty easy. I know there's a hack that shows you what's going on in the game (sort of like a production tab) in a separate window. That's enough to be able to hack and stream.
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On December 12 2012 19:32 TylerThaCreator wrote:Just wanna say I called out Demonoid for maphacking months ago in the previous topic and no one agreed with me, just out of curiosity can you check this replay for any weird clicks nunez? http://drop.sc/202248
a quick glance at sc2gears reveals scv autoprod in this rep for sure. not at my windows pc so can't check for other weirdness. nice call. :>
and thanks fenneth.
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Just want to let you guys know that I am friends with RainbowDash. I didn't know he was a maphacker, but I don't mind exposing his other account, Unleashed. He is also known as Patrizio. He is italian.
If any of that information helps expose him, then I am glad to help.
When I get home, I will try to find his sc2ranks profile for his Unleashed account.
I knew he was terrible. He had me level his account from rank 100 masters to top 8 for him and then a week later he gets Grandmasters. I asked how and his response was "I just got really good!"
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Can we get NewChelsea from NA on the list already? Posted about him already. If anyone else has run into him please reinforce my plea to get him on the list. Everytime I play him I have to metagame and go marine tank right after expo because he always does the same 1 base marine tank. So I don't have any good replays other than the first one I posted where I was caught off guard since I just blind counter him now. But, please say something if you've played him as well. Thank you. I'm always matching him and it's such a pain.
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On December 13 2012 07:42 bLo0d wrote:
Can we get NewChelsea from NA on the list already? Posted about him already. If anyone else has run into him please reinforce my plea to get him on the list. Everytime I play him I have to metagame and go marine tank right after expo because he always does the same 1 base marine tank. So I don't have any good replays other than the first one I posted where I was caught off guard since I just blind counter him now. But, please say something if you've played him as well. Thank you. I'm always matching him and it's such a pain.
Look a few posts back, he was confirmed. Although he was suggested like MONTHS ago and ignored, now he is official a hacker.
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