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bLo0d
58 Posts
On December 13 2012 07:46 iAmJeffReY wrote: Look a few posts back, he was confirmed. Although he was suggested like MONTHS ago and ignored, now he is official a hacker. Ahhh awesome. Sorry I missed that. Thanks for the heads up. And thank you to nunez for making it happen! | ||
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iAmJeffReY
United States4262 Posts
On December 13 2012 07:54 bLo0d wrote: Ahhh awesome. Sorry I missed that. Thanks for the heads up. And thank you to nunez for making it happen! <3 I just hate that guy. How he can mass game, hack, and still suck is beyond me. | ||
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President Dead
97 Posts
On December 10 2012 06:00 crbox wrote: Omg are you freaking serious? Did you just say that lol... Stop acting like a martyr you freaking hacked, you've been posting in this thread all day about the fact that you "only wanted to try". Just shut up, get your shit together stop hacking and fucking leave. Jesus christ. I'm guessing moderators are having a fun time watching this XD. EDIT: Oh and btw in your metaphor you're a kid right? Makes sense. Calm down, dude. Take deep breaths. When someone hacks, yes, it's annoying, but it's certainly not an illegal offense or something that harms another person in such a harsh way. They're kids being kids, playing hookey from school. It's not the end of the world for you or them. In the grand-scheme of ones personal life, trials and tribulations, friends, family, and work and how one can actually do very harmful stuff there, hacking is not a big deal. I, for one, am interested at the rates between those in whom hack and actually get noticed enough. I don't hack, but something tells me if I did I'd be extremely safe about it. I imagine most would be very safe about not letting their secrete be known. Now let's figure the evidence mounting against some people and that these particular people actually allow the evidence to be noted. They won't scout, blind counter, positions and react blindly. However these seem to be (to me anyway) a very small fraction of those in whom don't care about being caught. You can get a new account rather cheap these days. For every one we do suspect I imagine at least one more is added to that list in whom was actually careful and does well to protect his hacking. Furthermore, once a hacker and with the correct program there is a near 100% chance you wont get banned when using external hacks. Simply impossibly to detect without illegally scoping one's computer for other programs, a violation of our Constitutional expectation of Privacy. As SC continues to evolve the number of hackers will only increase, not decrease as a waning interest in doing well or noting other people not getting caught and new accounts will only provoke the situation. As far as Platinum to GM league goes, I'm inclined to believe about 10-15% of people are hacking, much higher then I initially thought due to it's incredible ease of access and installation. It take about 10 minutes when you google it. Blizzard can arrest some of the distributors and creators of these hacks but they can't stop other people's inherent ingenuity and brilliance when it comes to circumventing software. | ||
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oOOoOphidian
United States1402 Posts
On December 13 2012 07:42 bLo0d wrote: Can we get NewChelsea from NA on the list already? Posted about him already. If anyone else has run into him please reinforce my plea to get him on the list. Everytime I play him I have to metagame and go marine tank right after expo because he always does the same 1 base marine tank. So I don't have any good replays other than the first one I posted where I was caught off guard since I just blind counter him now. But, please say something if you've played him as well. Thank you. I'm always matching him and it's such a pain. I've played him a few times about 3 months ago and he didn't appear to be maphacking at the time. He was mid-high masters. I'd be kind of skeptical until I saw solid evidence, but maybe he's just so bad that I couldn't even tell he was maphacking. One of the replays looks really damning though, the one against Xuorig | ||
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Mambo
Denmark1338 Posts
On December 13 2012 07:42 bLo0d wrote: Can we get NewChelsea from NA on the list already? Posted about him already. If anyone else has run into him please reinforce my plea to get him on the list. Everytime I play him I have to metagame and go marine tank right after expo because he always does the same 1 base marine tank. So I don't have any good replays other than the first one I posted where I was caught off guard since I just blind counter him now. But, please say something if you've played him as well. Thank you. I'm always matching him and it's such a pain. Is it considered cheating to do the same build every game? | ||
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FabledIntegral
United States9232 Posts
On December 13 2012 11:15 Mambo wrote: Is it considered cheating to do the same build every game? No...? He's just mentioning it. Because we already know he hacks. | ||
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YellOwSky
Canada156 Posts
Server: AM League: Master http://drop.sc/283911 @0:55 looks into fog of war @1:30 looks into fog of war @2:27 looks into fog of war @2:38 sends all drone and lings cross spawn without scouting @3:10 looks into fog of war, My nexus in his natural @3:12 - 3:37 looks into for of war directly on my base the whole time @4:12 looks into fog of war at his natural where my cannons are @4:23 types out i cannon his expo without seeing anything. RatZDeeze wrote: you just cannoned my expo. There was someone else who reported him already here: + Show Spoiler + On December 11 2012 08:17 Nightshade_ wrote: Hacker name: RatzDeezer Server: NA League: Masters Description: 2 Gates in my base on a 4 player map, obvious maphack by the most obvious maphacker and cheater. http://drop.sc/283459 EDIT: I wasn't actually streaming, I said that as a joke because I know he's a stream cheater. you can check my stream for vods if you like, I haven't streamed in ages. The fact that he was already on the way to my base without having the time to load my stream anyway is a dead giveaway anyway, please use your heads. | ||
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ZweiGaming
Canada348 Posts
On December 13 2012 09:13 President Dead wrote: Calm down, dude. Take deep breaths. When someone hacks, yes, it's annoying, but it's certainly not an illegal offense or something that harms another person in such a harsh way. They're kids being kids, playing hookey from school. It's not the end of the world for you or them. In the grand-scheme of ones personal life, trials and tribulations, friends, family, and work and how one can actually do very harmful stuff there, hacking is not a big deal. I, for one, am interested at the rates between those in whom hack and actually get noticed enough. I don't hack, but something tells me if I did I'd be extremely safe about it. I imagine most would be very safe about not letting their secrete be known. Now let's figure the evidence mounting against some people and that these particular people actually allow the evidence to be noted. They won't scout, blind counter, positions and react blindly. However these seem to be (to me anyway) a very small fraction of those in whom don't care about being caught. You can get a new account rather cheap these days. For every one we do suspect I imagine at least one more is added to that list in whom was actually careful and does well to protect his hacking. Furthermore, once a hacker and with the correct program there is a near 100% chance you wont get banned when using external hacks. Simply impossibly to detect without illegally scoping one's computer for other programs, a violation of our Constitutional expectation of Privacy. As SC continues to evolve the number of hackers will only increase, not decrease as a waning interest in doing well or noting other people not getting caught and new accounts will only provoke the situation. As far as Platinum to GM league goes, I'm inclined to believe about 10-15% of people are hacking, much higher then I initially thought due to it's incredible ease of access and installation. It take about 10 minutes when you google it. Blizzard can arrest some of the distributors and creators of these hacks but they can't stop other people's inherent ingenuity and brilliance when it comes to circumventing software. You know what would be an easy way to detect hackers, have Blizzard save every ladder replay and scan them with whatever they want just like nunez do to detect the impossible moves. 100% legal. Wouldn't detect the simple maphack, but it would detect all the automatic fonctions that comes with it. | ||
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Erik.TheRed
United States1655 Posts
http://drop.sc/283946 | ||
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nunez
Norway4003 Posts
On December 13 2012 16:17 Erik.TheRed wrote: Just played a barcode who proxied outside my main without scouting on antiga. checked his match history and he's been winning a lot of pvps on 4 player maps by proxying. http://drop.sc/283946 can you bug the players he played for reps? just ask them to upload to drop.sc. | ||
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Erik.TheRed
United States1655 Posts
On December 13 2012 16:21 nunez wrote: can you bug the players he played for reps? just ask them to upload to drop.sc. They're all either not accepting messages from non-friends or are offline now  | ||
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RazerRapter
Germany7 Posts
User was warned for this post | ||
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crbox
Canada1180 Posts
On December 13 2012 09:13 President Dead wrote: Calm down, dude. Take deep breaths. When someone hacks, yes, it's annoying, but it's certainly not an illegal offense or something that harms another person in such a harsh way. They're kids being kids, playing hookey from school. It's not the end of the world for you or them. In the grand-scheme of ones personal life, trials and tribulations, friends, family, and work and how one can actually do very harmful stuff there, hacking is not a big deal. I, for one, am interested at the rates between those in whom hack and actually get noticed enough. I don't hack, but something tells me if I did I'd be extremely safe about it. I imagine most would be very safe about not letting their secrete be known. Now let's figure the evidence mounting against some people and that these particular people actually allow the evidence to be noted. They won't scout, blind counter, positions and react blindly. However these seem to be (to me anyway) a very small fraction of those in whom don't care about being caught. You can get a new account rather cheap these days. For every one we do suspect I imagine at least one more is added to that list in whom was actually careful and does well to protect his hacking. Furthermore, once a hacker and with the correct program there is a near 100% chance you wont get banned when using external hacks. Simply impossibly to detect without illegally scoping one's computer for other programs, a violation of our Constitutional expectation of Privacy. As SC continues to evolve the number of hackers will only increase, not decrease as a waning interest in doing well or noting other people not getting caught and new accounts will only provoke the situation. As far as Platinum to GM league goes, I'm inclined to believe about 10-15% of people are hacking, much higher then I initially thought due to it's incredible ease of access and installation. It take about 10 minutes when you google it. Blizzard can arrest some of the distributors and creators of these hacks but they can't stop other people's inherent ingenuity and brilliance when it comes to circumventing software. Why would you quote like a one week old post that's completely irrelevant to what your saying next. If you actually read the whole thing, I got pissed off at him not for hacking, but because he was acting like a moron. EDIT: And yeah for players that actually try to become better, hacking is a big deal, it makes you lose practice time and by losing to noobs like that, your mmr drops and you play baddies. So, yeah, if it wasn't a big deal there wouldn't be a thread like this, and also you wouldn't post in it  | ||
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Grildrak
Sweden44 Posts
Server EU League Diamond Descriptions Game 1: ~1:32 he sends a second scv to my base to proxy rax me before the first scouts me. Look at my natural expantions ramp and you will see him sending the second scv down there (to the right) without knowing where I am (he is also not looking at the place he is sending it as if he was using the mini map for it.) When I first saw it I thought he first had sent the scv to his ramp too build his rax there in the wall and that he just changed his mind after his scout saw me. But he never sends it to the ramp, he is sending it straight down to my base for the proxy. His proxy fails he gg and leaves. Game 2 Matched against him a second game No scouting until he sends a reaper to my base. Doesn't really prove anything (my base spawn would be the first anyone would scout) but his reaper dies before seeing anything I have. And he never scans my base so he is playing 100% blindly all game. 6:17 Interesting blind barrack rally to my natural expansion without knowing if I have any army there or not (had I had my army out there his marines would have walked in and died one by one). No prof but interesting. 8-9 Multiple peeks towards my high ground tanks in fog of war 9:05 The first ever scan by him gives him vision of my just forward moved tank at my ramp (just after a very notable peek into fog of war) 12:24 I take my third base. At this time he just selected his armoury and started an upgrade and does nothing for 2 seconds (with the armoury selected, normally if you dont have anything to do for that long you circle production buildings or look for something to do). He then selects his army and sends it for my expansion. I would argue that the time he was doing nothing (not even moving the camera) with the armoury selected he was looking at me and my expo in the fog of war. I guess you could argue that he just had a feeling I was expanding. Sure but there is no clear third expansion on shakuras. I could have taken the other one as well (like he had) but he went for the one further away. The only building he have seen of me is my expansion cc I built next to my ramp that he saw when he scanned too kill my tank at 9:05 While he is moving out I am doing the same. 12:58 he sees that our armies will meet and pulls his further down south letting me pass without seeing him. At the same time he is also taking a obvious peek at my army as I am moving down my ramp and we pass. Ends with a semi base race. | ||
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ProteiNSheikH
South Africa49 Posts
Gonna check replay now and add it if I see anything suspicious. Gj guys. | ||
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Zoku
307 Posts
http://drop.sc/284134 http://drop.sc/284135 Seriously though blizzard, why are people like this still not banned? How bad are you guys at your jobs? | ||
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President Dead
97 Posts
On December 14 2012 08:03 Zoku wrote: Me raping nerffy in 2 games. How can you be that bad when you hack? http://drop.sc/284134 http://drop.sc/284135 Seriously though blizzard, why are people like this still not banned? How bad are you guys at your jobs? For most hacks, not their fault, man. :/ It's easy to criticize people when you don't have to deal with what they do. On December 14 2012 03:42 crbox wrote: Why would you quote like a one week old post that's completely irrelevant to what your saying next. If you actually read the whole thing, I got pissed off at him not for hacking, but because he was acting like a moron. EDIT: And yeah for players that actually try to become better, hacking is a big deal, it makes you lose practice time and by losing to noobs like that, your mmr drops and you play baddies. So, yeah, if it wasn't a big deal there wouldn't be a thread like this, and also you wouldn't post in it Because I'm allowed to make two different points in one thread. Getting better has very little to do with the frustration of dealing with hackers. :/ It's an annoyance and does make you lose points, but it's just a game, man. You're trying to get better at a video game and in one's life it has very little importance in the grand-scheme of things. There are much more important things in life and someone in whom hacks will do much worse things in their life then hack. I simply chose to add my 2 cents since the thread exists. | ||
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Mudkipnick
Korea (South)241 Posts
North American Masters No scouting, knew that my baneling bust was coming, never scouted my base during the entire game. Put three bunkers in his ramp, knowing exactly when my bust was coming when he never scouted my base at all. Never sent a SCV, nothing. http://drop.sc/284202. Thank you OP. Hope everyone avoids this pathetic player... | ||
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oOOoOphidian
United States1402 Posts
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( bush
321 Posts
On December 14 2012 13:03 oOOoOphidian wrote: lost the replay, but a high masters terran on NA called Tragic is maphacking lately really? played him twice today and havent found anything weird. | ||
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