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You have to provide some kind of evidence/proof (screenshots/replays etc.) if you are going to accuse somebody.

Additionally, a supporting comment of what people should be looking for and when will be necessary if you are posting replays/evidence.
mindjames
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Israel322 Posts
December 09 2012 23:59 GMT
#3981
On December 10 2012 08:41 RoarMan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2012 08:31 ErAsc2 wrote:
On December 10 2012 05:07 Scholera wrote:
On December 10 2012 05:05 Zennith wrote:
You also understand we have no way and/or reason to believe you, right? Safer to just label you as a hacker and play cautiously when we see you on ladder.

I mean, frankly, you should just be banned anyway.


Of course you do. 2 Replays on the exact same day... my play is the exact same level as when I was hacking.... I was also here explaining it on the exact same day... and nobody has been here with the notion of me hacking since... and despite playing since the day of release, nobody's ever heard of me hacking before...

There's no single piece of evidence, explicit or implicit that DOESN'T show that I'm telling the truth.


Perhaps start streaming regularly. Dragon maphacked once aswell. Then he began streaming all of his play and now he's doing really well, featured on TL etc..

It's true, Dragon is a known MH but now has reformed.

Reformation is possible, honestly this thread doesn't do much except to give players scapegoats to point fingers too. Now I've never EVER maphacked in my life and I think MAPHACKING IS ABSOLUTELY WRONG in the spirit of the game. However in the grand scope of things, the way in which maphackers are being compared to child predators and other criminals is just unfair and unwarranted.

They are being compared to people who do wrong things. That's for making a point. I don't think anyone thinks maphacking is as bad as violent crimes.
PanN
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2828 Posts
December 10 2012 00:08 GMT
#3982
On December 10 2012 08:31 ErAsc2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2012 05:07 Scholera wrote:
On December 10 2012 05:05 Zennith wrote:
You also understand we have no way and/or reason to believe you, right? Safer to just label you as a hacker and play cautiously when we see you on ladder.

I mean, frankly, you should just be banned anyway.


Of course you do. 2 Replays on the exact same day... my play is the exact same level as when I was hacking.... I was also here explaining it on the exact same day... and nobody has been here with the notion of me hacking since... and despite playing since the day of release, nobody's ever heard of me hacking before...

There's no single piece of evidence, explicit or implicit that DOESN'T show that I'm telling the truth.


Perhaps start streaming regularly. Dragon maphacked once aswell. Then he began streaming all of his play and now he's doing really well, featured on TL etc..


I don't know why people still to this day believe that if you stream, you don't hack.

You can stream and hack at the same time...
We have multiple brackets generated in advance. Relax . (Kennigit) I just simply do not understand how it can be the time to play can be 22nd at 9:30 pm PST / midnight the 23rd at the same time. (GGzerg)
Thallis
Profile Joined September 2010
United States314 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-10 01:03:33
December 10 2012 01:02 GMT
#3983
Player: Hailey

Going to add a new name to verify. He proxy 2-gated me cross positions on entombed after sending a probe directly to my base from the start. This was in mid-master so it's nothing huge, but be careful against a player named Hailey around that level.

http://drop.sc/283188
/)*(\
nunez
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway4003 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-10 01:21:41
December 10 2012 01:21 GMT
#3984
Hacker name: Hawkeye
Server: NA
League: master, 1080 pts, 46 wins / 18 losses
Description:

urBADimMAD (t, top left) vs Hawkeye (p, bot right) @ ohana

@0:18 autoprobe production
[image loading]
@1:23 impossible selection, autoprobe.
[image loading]
@1:38 same as above.
@1:47 is sending a probe to build a pylon on the lower side of urBADs ramp, the upper side is blocked by a depot.
[image loading]
@2:17 autoprobe/impossible selection.

autoprobe throughout game.
conspired against by a confederacy of dunces.
nunez
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway4003 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-03 18:47:44
December 10 2012 02:00 GMT
#3985
Hacker name: IIIIIIIIIIII
Server: EU
League: master, 365 points, 45 wins / 11 losses
Description:

soulbrother (z, top right) vs etNa (t, bot left) @ antiga shipyard

@2:48 etNa is going cc first, no scout. pulls scv prematurely when my drone scout is entering his nat. attack click next to my drone on minimap, it's not to scout.
when i notice this i decide to test him so i go for a baneling bust off two base (or maybe i'm just a cheesy bastard anyways mahaha).
@6:05 looks into my main (has not scouted my spawn at this time, nor have i sent any overlords into his vision (when i confront him after the game he says he knew from the timing of my overlords). the camera pans down to my natural where i have placed the banenest, and he scans there and sees the baneling nest and puts down 5 bunkers.
i cancel the banenest and take a third after being scanned
@7:30 blindly salvages his bunkers and opens up his front, didn't send out an scv or scout.
@8:50 i am going for a nydus, he's setting his rally points to the main.
@8:55 i put down a nydus in the corner of his base, he immediately sends 5 marines to the smoke from his natural ramp.
@13:46 he has his army in the middle. i put up another nydus in the smoke in his main, he still doesn't have vision. he grabs some units rallying out and stims the marins to the smoke. no vision at all.
@13:59 he sends a group of marines on a queued attack move to the hidden expo at 6 o'clock and then 12 o'clock, but no other bases. he has no scouting.
@14:15 cheeky look into fog of war at my ling bane.

after pming some of the people he had recently played against i got two reps from Kolento who had already reported him twice.

Kolento (t, top left) vs etNa (t, bot right) @ ohana
@4:44 both open reaper expand, Kolentos a bit ahead. instead of moving out with his reaper, etNa moves his reaper and marine to the natural and waits, when Kolentos reaper pops up he is looking at where it comes in and has his marine and reaper selected, ready to pounce.
Kolento immediately calls him out on it.
@5:43 Kolento moves up ramp with his reper, etNa has his units selected and does a catch.
@6:47 looks into fog of war at K's front as he sends his reapers up to the nat.
@7:26 when his reaper dies and his vision is shrouded by FOW the camera jumps back to his natural mineral line, without any selections. not sure about what this is, but seems a bit strange.
@12:20 moves his army to K's fourth exp ramp to kill a marine.

Kolento (t, top right) vs etNa (t, bot right) @ antiga shipyard

@2:20 sends scv to 'scout', queues up a move command into Kolentos base, then a half circle around the place the cc would be and then queues it up to return to his base.
@4:23 both are again going reaper expands, K again ahead. etNa positions a marine and an scv next to the fog in his main, but K is coming up from the nat. he moves the scv and marine towards the ramp instead. has no vision of the reaper.
@6:06 etNa has three reapers sitting in the smoke in his main
@10:46 is presplitting his army as K's bio push comes into vision outside his third and natural ramp. he has no knowledge of this push.
@12:57 K queus up a drop into his main mineral line, etNa is builds 3 turrets there, but none at his third.
@13:07 stims 5 marines to run to his main mineral line where the drop is incoming, he has no vision of it.
@14:07 looks into FOW at K's army.
@14:31 pre splits his army in the middle, and stims his entire army attacking into kolentas army that he has no vision of.
@15:53 stims before he has vision of K's army.

almost doesn't scan in either of the tvts, maybe one or two where he needs vision for his tanks.

Conclusion:

no scouting, blidnly scanning my nat to see the baneling nest when he doesn't even know what spawn, countering builds, perfect unit movement with no knowledge, looking through fog of war. no automation but a maphacker for sure.

Note:
changed name from etNa to Dysphoria, then from Dysphoria to IIIIIIIIIIII.
conspired against by a confederacy of dunces.
nunez
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway4003 Posts
December 10 2012 03:04 GMT
#3986
On December 07 2012 13:35 Zhearsgu wrote:
Name: Analthaabe sc2ranks profile: sc2ranks profile
Server: EU
Replay: http://drop.sc/282357
League: 689 points Masters
Description: ZvP on Ohana me (z) opening mutalisk (testing to play all matchups without any infestors).
He opens stargate. Does not scout anything (except initial probe scout).
Gets robo, but only builds one immortal (started to build it before i got spire)
When my spire goes down, blink and Templar archives are researched/built ASAP.
Placing down 4 defensive cannons to defend vs mutas before they are revealed.

12:00 Mutalisk harass , he moves units into position before anything is scouted. the same second they are within vision range, army moves to engage.
12:15 Storms hit without watching mutalisks.
camera does not move from 12:14 to 12:26, during mutalisk harass. stalkers move and storms are used.
14:10 Stalkers are built outside of vision.

15:20 : Perfectly mirroring mutalisks moves with his army when they move in to harass at third. ( has no vision of mutalisks)
Mutalisks having greater visionrange then cannons( during warpin), see cannons and move away. His army moves away directly when mutas do. never seeing the mutalisks.

16:27 Moves camera directly over my mutalisks outside my 4th. No vision

17:01 Moves camera directly to my roach army that is moving out. No vision
17:10 Moves units to third to protect against that roach wave.
17:13 Moves perfect timing on mutas moving in to main.
18:02 Moves camera to watch my mutalisks still outside his main. No vision
20:05 Moves army to kill those mutalisks that the camera recently moved over( changes entire army direction before mutalisks are visable).
Not a single observer the entire game!


Talked with him, he encouraged me to post on TL several times saying " Im known on both eu and kr server not cheating. You are always welcome to make a topic on TL if you believe I use any kind of hacks"
Posting entire conversation, he tries to explain some of the things in the replay.

+ Show Spoiler +
You: hey

Analthaabe has reconnected.

You: how did you know i was going muta?

Analthaabe: hey. the zerg I played on customs?

You: yes

Analthaabe: Had a feeling on the map. My void ray spotted no roaches or zerglings in front of natural that always indicates muta play. gg btw

You: you placed templar archives before you scouted that

Analthaabe: Havent seen the replay. But my tac was ht not cols, so much likely did go archives even before you went spire. And zergs go muta play 50% of the times on ohana
Feel free to watch the replay no maphack here

You: you opened stargate robo, you stoped doing anything with those, and directly when i built my spire, you started to research blink and placed archives
you place your units in perfect position before you see my mutalisks, and move your units to intersept. you place down storms where you dont even look. (looks like the safety thing built in to mh where the camera freezes if you look at enemies in the fog
at 15 30,. you perfeclty follow my muta army with your stalkers even though you have not seen them
Analthaabe has reconnected.

You: what is the fun in using maphack?
do defence?
?

Analthaabe: I've not watch the replay, but I dont have a maphack and also why I dont look at any of your army in fog. If you talk about the edge of the screen out sync'ed its because I play on normal solution on widescreen display. It's not some kind of cheat heh.
but you are welcome to make a topic on TL.

You: check the replay at 15:30
your army movement
explain that to me

Analthaabe: im in a game right now. I dont use maphack or what you refer to. Im known on both eu and kr server not cheating. You are always welcome to make a topic on TL if you believe I use any kind of hacks.

You: you seam to be honest but im sorry i don't believe you, your army movement, your tech choise, your lack of scouting. it is to much.
would like you to explain the movement at 15:30 when you are done with the game
watched the replay yet?
Analthaabe has reconnected.
You: *?
Analthaabe: okay lets watch this replay 1 moment
one*

You: kk

Analthaabe: Im taking my third. That you are must likely going to attack cuz my main and natural are secured with cannons and HT. I see a muta shadow at 15.23 and walks down to minerals to protect inc attack. That's also how I remember the situation when watching it

You: gonna check for shadow 2 sec
when i watch the replay, you cant see the shadow if you have your perspective on but you can see it if you watch from everyones or mine
but lets leave that for now. what are you looking at at 16:27
17:01
18:02
you move your camera over the entire map and focus it on important events that you have no vision of

Analthaabe: I remember it as I saw a shadow, but alot of stuff when you play this game alot you can sense. As I said make a topic on TL and you can let them say if they think that would be maphack.
You: true, and a shadow could explain that. well spotet if that was the case
but the movement of your camera to unscoutet areas on the other side of the map
focusing on important parts of information
there aint no shadow to explain that
16:27
17:01
and 18:02

He stoped responding here.


So, what do you guys think?

[Edit]
(with regards to his defense that he spotted the shadows of the mutalisks at his third)
Do you guys know if shadows from mutalisks can be spotted by the opponent even if the mutalisks are not in vision?( I did not think you could)
In replay-mode you don't see the shadows if you don't see the mutalisks when having only the protoss players vision.

Noticed now that he moved his army before the shadow was within vision range as well.
[/Edit]


Hacker name: Analthaabe
Server: EU
League: master, 732 points, 53 wins/33 losses
Description:

Analthaabe (p, bot right) vs Zhearsgu (z, top left) @ ohana

@0:59 impossible selection and autoprobe
[image loading]
@1:36 autoprobe
@1:48 impossible selection and autoprobe
@2:04 impossible selection and autoprobe
@2:22 impossible selection and autoprobe
@3:56 impossible selection and autoprobe
@4:06 autoprobe.
not going to mention any more of those. i think it's established that this guy uses autoprobe prodcution, but he uses it throughout the rep.
@4:43 selects probes outside of his vision. he has his camera in a very peculiar place when idling. in the middle of the bases.
@4:46 impossible selection of probes.
@5:53 boxes his main mineral line with no vision of it. his camera is hovering between his two nexuses. there's no doubt in my mind that he's using the zoom-out feature from one of the hacks that was screenshotted earlier in this thread. but i'll try to fin a better example to illustrate.
@9:56 impossible placing of buildings and definitive proof for zoom out hack.
the buildings being placed (he queues up four gateways there):
[image loading]
his view during the placement of gateways:
[image loading]

conclusive proof that he is hacking. good call zhear.
conspired against by a confederacy of dunces.
nunez
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway4003 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-10 04:02:39
December 10 2012 03:57 GMT
#3987
Hacker name: llllllllllll
Server: EU
League: master, 48 points, 1 won / 2 lost (1.5k master last season)
Description:
llllllllllll (p, top left) vs nSgNaffy (t, bot left) @ tal'darim altar

@11:48 autoblink.
[image loading]
@11:24 barcode has split up his stalkers and is preparing to blink into naffys main while he's attacking up the ramp to his natural. has he is blinking up to his main a stalker at the ramp gets autoblinked.
barcode's vision:
[image loading]
the blink:
[image loading]
sc2gears showing impossible selection, blink and reseleciton within one frame:
[image loading]

no need to look further.

edit: his hotkeys seem to match up pretty well with the ones from the rainbowdash replay who also blinkhacked, and is claiming someone accessed his account. maybe someone who is a bit more savy than me can make a comparison. here are the reps.
http://drop.sc/282292
http://drop.sc/265941
conspired against by a confederacy of dunces.
nunez
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway4003 Posts
December 10 2012 04:28 GMT
#3988
Hacker name: Hailey
Server: NA
League: master, 540 points, 95 wins / 68 lost
Description:

FFA

calls out red's spawn. constant looking into FOW.
@14:13 sends army to intercept a drop with no knowledge.

Protoss (z, top left) vs Hailey (r spawns z, top right) @ tal'darim altar

blind 6 pool, sends to right spawn.

Hailey (p, bot left) vs Spitfire (p, top right) @ entombed valley

blind double proxy gate cross map.

Allerum (t, bot left) vs Hailey (t, top right) @ daybreak

constant looking into FOW at base and units moving around the map.

Conclusion:
didn't bother to be that thorough with the replays, but it's blatant so not needed. the blind cheesing on 4 player map combined with constant looking through FOW at base / units moving around the map and calling out a players spawn blindly doesn't leave much to the imagination.
conspired against by a confederacy of dunces.
nunez
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway4003 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-10 04:56:48
December 10 2012 04:40 GMT
#3989
Hacker name: pokey
Server: NA
League: master, 359 points, 32 won / 10 lost
Description:

Names (t, top right) vs pokey (t, bot left) @ daybreak

@3:36 no scout from pokey. Names hides the scouting scv behind gas at natural. pokey queues up an attack command behind the gas and back to his ramp, indicating he knew where exactly it was.
@7:26 completely no scouting. pokey is going for speedreaper, hellion medevac. pokey is going for: +1, 2 rax and a reactored starport, with a bunker on top of his ramp.
@8:41 after some pressure Names has pulled back and is expanding. pokey loads up his two medevacs and queues up a drop into his main, passing over the xel naga tower, which Names luckily didn't take.
@9:08 Names has a viking on patrol where the drop was heading in, pokey redirects it below the natural instead.

Cross (z, bot right) vs pokey (t, top left) @ ohana

@4:00 pokey is proxy 2 raxing. some careful control close to an overlord he has no vision of.
@7:16 runs into the natural just as an overlord is moving out from it.
@11:19 his clicking follows an escaping drone at the third before he has vision of it.
@12:40 as he scans the main his camera pans to the natural

note: the first ovi kill he could have inferred from when he sees it at 4:15

still one more rep would be nice.
conspired against by a confederacy of dunces.
oGkCross
Profile Joined October 2012
United States4 Posts
December 10 2012 04:43 GMT
#3990
Player : pokey
Server : NA
League Masters
I find this player suspicious when i watched the replay. he knew where my overlords were and just A-moved into my overlords. He tried to snipe one when it was coming down from a ramp without having vision.

http://drop.sc/283230
nunez
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway4003 Posts
December 10 2012 04:45 GMT
#3991
aha, ask and ye' shall receive.
conspired against by a confederacy of dunces.
nunez
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway4003 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-31 03:31:14
December 10 2012 10:10 GMT
#3992
redundant, moved to Demonoid aka this barcodes analysis post.
conspired against by a confederacy of dunces.
nunez
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway4003 Posts
December 10 2012 10:19 GMT
#3993
Hacker name: THUNDERbird
Server: NA
League: master, 704 points, 17 wins / 9 losses
Description:

THUNDERbird(p, bot right) vs LGHiaTa (z, top right) @ entombed valley

@2:35 impossible selection and autoprobe
[image loading]
@2:46 same as above.
@2:57 same as above.

combined with blind pylon wall at PaNN's main it's a nobrainer. on its own it's also a nobrainer. just like THUNDERbird.
conspired against by a confederacy of dunces.
nunez
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway4003 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-05 10:39:39
December 10 2012 10:32 GMT
#3994
IlIlIlIlIlIl(t, top right) vs fapy (p, bot left) @ entombed valley
Hacker name: IlIlIlIlIlIl
Server: NA
League: Master, 713 points, 158 wins / 124 losses
Description:

@1:00 is sending an scv crossmap
@1:10 autoscv production
[image loading]
@1:40 starts up a barrack fapys base, has no scouting info.
@3:20 walls off the top of his ramp with a depot just as the probe pops up. he has a rax building there and hasn't even started his orbital yet, even though he has a rax done in fapys base.
conspired against by a confederacy of dunces.
nunez
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway4003 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-10 11:24:27
December 10 2012 11:18 GMT
#3995
Hacker name: shinrei
Server: EU
League: master, 558 points, 31 wins / 29 losses
Description:

shinrei (p, bot left) vs predator (t, top right) @ daybreak

@2:22 sends probe around to third base instead straight to predators base, dodging predators scv scout.
@8:25 looking at predators army through fog of war
@11:03 predator has sent a double drop alone the bottom of the map, shinrei is moving his army out of the map, towards the third, then pulls back and moves down to blindly intercept the drop.
@14:50 is looking in his main where a drop appears, instead of warping in there, he warps in units at his third. outside the third there is a double drop waiting he had no vision of.
@14:58 looks into fog of war at predators natural
@17:52 predator is walking through the top part of the map towards shinreis fourth, shinrei moves to intercepts and takes a peak at his army through FOW.
the only time he moves to the xel naga tower is to kill marines on them when predator has taken them. he never holds one of his own.
@19:32 weird selection at the very edge at his screen, might be aspect ratio but still worth noting, considering the existence of the zoom out hack. hard to see in my screenshot, but it's the probe at the ramp.
screen at moment of selection:
[image loading]
@19:44 blink hack. as he's being engaged by the main army and trying to spam forcefields while having his entire army selected, one stalker gets selected, blinked back and army reselected by boxing. definitive proof.
the blink
[image loading]
sc2gears print
[image loading]

no need to look further, but there are more autoblinks and blind army ovement etc throughout.
conspired against by a confederacy of dunces.
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
December 10 2012 14:16 GMT
#3996
Very nice job with the thread, nunez.
-ChrisJ-
Profile Joined August 2011
France21 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-10 16:26:28
December 10 2012 16:25 GMT
#3997
And again, i'm here ; D

Hacker name: Zaphix
Server: EU
League: master, 796 points, 22 wins / 5 losses
Description: PVP > Going to make a 2gates proxy on Ohana, BUT yeah he have anticipate, second gateways without scoot !
And when he make this second gateways he sends his probe on my proxy...
Weird, Strange, It's starcraft 2 ; (

REPLAY : http://drop.sc/283341
hellokittySC2
Profile Joined September 2009
United States395 Posts
December 10 2012 16:47 GMT
#3998
interesting, didnt realize hawkeye was hacking, i think we played a few times and i got blindly hard countered every game
twitter.com/hellokittyhots facebook.com/hellokittysc2 hellokitty.278, http://twitch.tv/noobeater5 为中国人在星际上争气!
kcdc
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2311 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-10 17:16:05
December 10 2012 17:15 GMT
#3999
This one isn't 100% definitive, but I'll post it as one piece of evidence:

Name: CriscoCube
Server: NA
League: New Account--he's top Masters MMR with 35 wins
Replay: http://drop.sc/283344
Description: PvP, he doesn't scout at all or ever leave base with a single unit. I go for a blink all-in build and send a probe to south of his base for proxy pylon. He starts robo immediately after my twilight council, but this is standard timing for robo build, so it's not too suspicious. Still without having left his base at all, his camera scrolls south toward where my probe is making a proxy pylon, but freezes at the edge of his vision. The camera locks over the south of his base for ~5 seconds for no reason. He goes for 3 gates and starts two immortals immediately before observer. 3 gate robo is not an opening at his MMR. This is purely a "blind" counter to my build. Moreover, if it were an opening, it would get an observer first. And it would DEFINITELY get an observer before a second immortal.

I asked him about the replay, and he claimed he was just bad, and did a bad opening because he doesn't know any better--he said he's only had the game for 5 days. That's definitely a lie. If he doesn't MH, he must know the blink timing down to a tee because without vision or advanced warning, he forcefielded the bottom of his ramp right as my stalkers arrived.

I think it's very likely he maphacks, but we'll need more replays to prove it. The account is brand new, and it's something like 35-2. If his defense for his bad build that just happened to blind counter my all-in is that he's new and didn't know the build is bad, how is he 35-2? And if he's new but just naturally good, why wouldn't he probe scout? And why would his screen lock over empty space at the edge of his vision right when I plant a proxy pylon nearby?
snailz
Profile Joined April 2011
Croatia900 Posts
December 10 2012 17:24 GMT
#4000
On December 10 2012 11:00 nunez wrote:
Hacker name: etNa
Server: EU
League: master, 365 points, 45 wins / 11 losses
Description:

soulbrother (z, top right) vs etNa (t, bot left) @ antiga shipyard

@2:48 etNa is going cc first, no scout. pulls scv prematurely when my drone scout is entering his nat. attack click next to my drone on minimap, it's not to scout.
when i notice this i decide to test him so i go for a baneling bust off two base (or maybe i'm just a cheesy bastard anyways mahaha).
@6:05 looks into my main (has not scouted my spawn at this time, nor have i sent any overlords into his vision (when i confront him after the game he says he knew from the timing of my overlords). the camera pans down to my natural where i have placed the banenest, and he scans there and sees the baneling nest and puts down 5 bunkers.
i cancel the banenest and take a third after being scanned
@7:30 blindly salvages his bunkers and opens up his front, didn't send out an scv or scout.
@8:50 i am going for a nydus, he's setting his rally points to the main.
@8:55 i put down a nydus in the corner of his base, he immediately sends 5 marines to the smoke from his natural ramp.
@13:46 he has his army in the middle. i put up another nydus in the smoke in his main, he still doesn't have vision. he grabs some units rallying out and stims the marins to the smoke. no vision at all.
@13:59 he sends a group of marines on a queued attack move to the hidden expo at 6 o'clock and then 12 o'clock, but no other bases. he has no scouting.
@14:15 cheeky look into fog of war at my ling bane.

after pming some of the people he had recently played against i got two reps from Kolento who had already reported him twice.

Kolento (t, top left) vs etNa (t, bot right) @ ohana
@4:44 both open reaper expand, Kolentos a bit ahead. instead of moving out with his reaper, etNa moves his reaper and marine to the natural and waits, when Kolentos reaper pops up he is looking at where it comes in and has his marine and reaper selected, ready to pounce.
Kolento immediately calls him out on it.
@5:43 Kolento moves up ramp with his reper, etNa has his units selected and does a catch.
@6:47 looks into fog of war at K's front as he sends his reapers up to the nat.
@7:26 when his reaper dies and his vision is shrouded by FOW the camera jumps back to his natural mineral line, without any selections. not sure about what this is, but seems a bit strange.
@12:20 moves his army to K's fourth exp ramp to kill a marine.

Kolento (t, top right) vs etNa (t, bot right) @ antiga shipyard

@2:20 sends scv to 'scout', queues up a move command into Kolentos base, then a half circle around the place the cc would be and then queues it up to return to his base.
@4:23 both are again going reaper expands, K again ahead. etNa positions a marine and an scv next to the fog in his main, but K is coming up from the nat. he moves the scv and marine towards the ramp instead. has no vision of the reaper.
@6:06 etNa has three reapers sitting in the smoke in his main
@10:46 is presplitting his army as K's bio push comes into vision outside his third and natural ramp. he has no knowledge of this push.
@12:57 K queus up a drop into his main mineral line, etNa is builds 3 turrets there, but none at his third.
@13:07 stims 5 marines to run to his main mineral line where the drop is incoming, he has no vision of it.
@14:07 looks into FOW at K's army.
@14:31 pre splits his army in the middle, and stims his entire army attacking into kolentas army that he has no vision of.
@15:53 stims before he has vision of K's army.

almost doesn't scan in either of the tvts, maybe one or two where he needs vision for his tanks.

Conclusion:

no scouting, blidnly scanning my nat to see the baneling nest when he doesn't even know what spawn, countering builds, perfect unit movement with no knowledge, looking through fog of war. no automation but a maphacker for sure.


that guy is such an obvious hacker, he even bm's after the game...
"I am saying that there are 300 current pros and semi-pros that have the potential to come in and dominate SC2 at any moment, with a latency of a few months from the day they switch." - intrigue
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