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SamuelLJackson
223 Posts
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SamuelLJackson
223 Posts
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MrZentor
United States1648 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + I'M + Show Spoiler + NOT + Show Spoiler + SCUM Any other questions? | ||
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Forumite
Sweden3280 Posts
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On April 25 2012 06:08 Forumite wrote: What was up with Marvel? Was it more than him avoiding attention? Cursory glance through his filter told me that he´s not very aggressive, but that could be because most of his posts have been used to defend himself from the lynch. Well, I could be more aggressive if you like. You big ninny. Any questions for me while we're here? | ||
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SamuelLJackson
223 Posts
Not to begin with the fact that I was referring to the fact that we had 4 people voting marv and at least 3 more people saying they will vote marv and suddenly out of nowhere everyone screams no-lynch is the way to go. Sadly there's probably not enough mafia in this game to call everyone mafia who were defending their buddy which leaves me with the problem that either a couple of guys are manipulative and the rest is town or I am wrong about marv. However, even if I am wrong that situation was highly strange. Why did everyone back off like that? Anyways. Your turn of asking a question or turning the discussion somewhere else if you like. --- Toad | ||
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Forumite
Sweden3280 Posts
On April 25 2012 06:09 marvellosity wrote: Well, I could be more aggressive if you like. You big ninny. Any questions for me while we're here?  What do you think about snarfs? You and him are the only players I haven´t seen playing before. | ||
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prplhz
Denmark8045 Posts
I'm pushing MrZentor tomorrow by the way. I think that Radfield is town and I respect his opinions but I also think that day1 reads are his biggest (only?) weakness. | ||
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Forumite
Sweden3280 Posts
On April 25 2012 06:11 SamuelLJackson wrote: I think Zentor has a fairly decent point here Not to begin with the fact that I was referring to the fact that we had 4 people voting marv and at least 3 more people saying they will vote marv and suddenly out of nowhere everyone screams no-lynch is the way to go. Sadly there's probably not enough mafia in this game to call everyone mafia who were defending their buddy which leaves me with the problem that either a couple of guys are manipulative and the rest is town or I am wrong about marv. However, even if I am wrong that situation was highly strange. Why did everyone back off like that? Anyways. Your turn of asking a question or turning the discussion somewhere else if you like. --- Toad To clarify, you think what happened was that Marvel is scum, he got too close to getting lynched, and everyone changed their mind and went for a no-lynch? I don´t know, it was very close to the lynch and we didn´t have a clear candidate, going for a no-lynch felt right at the time. | ||
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Forumite
Sweden3280 Posts
On April 25 2012 06:06 MrZentor wrote: Forumirite. + Show Spoiler + I'M + Show Spoiler + NOT + Show Spoiler + SCUM Any other questions? MrZentor, why do you think prplhz is scum? The things he does that you think are suspicious are not suspicous to me, at least not coming from him. | ||
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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
On April 25 2012 02:06 Snarfs wrote: Okay. Another one. If you're town then you're likely to die tonight anyways, so why save your reads for the next 5 hours rather than give them now? If you're going to die, I would like a chance to discuss your reads with you before that happens. Also, it seems more likely that scum would let you live if you were wrong than that they would be more inclined to kill you if you're right. They're probably going to assume you're right until you say something wrong. Just WIFOM, I know, but a thought  Mainly because I didn't think I would have time to before now. Also, if I do die tonight, I don't think you can really read any more into my reads than if I live. Mafia will kill me or let me live regardless of how accurate my reads are. Anyways, here's what I'm looking at after 1 sweep through the game. I guarantee these reads will change, some drastically. People talk a lot about not giving town reads, but I don't really agree with that. I think my strength at this game comes because i have good town reads, so I'm sharing them now. Keep in mind however that this is only Night 1, and these reads are necessarily weaker than normal. Zentor I have commented on already. I think his play is strongly town aligned this game, though I have no meta to compare to. He's been cavalier in his actions and attitude, and nothing he has done really rubs me the wrong way. His case on prplhz was weak, but I don't think it stemmed from a mafia mindset. SamuelLJackson I have difficulty with. My normal scum hunting heuristics fail me when it comes to Toad. I mentioned in 'I'm a Cop you Idiot' that I struggle with scum players who put in a lot of effort and post a lot of content(whether good content or bad). Toad falls heavily into that category, and has fooled me the last two times we have played together(him scum, me town). However, Sandro does NOT fall into that category. In my mind Sandro has a fairly well established scum meta, and this is to be far less active than normal. So far his activity level fits squarely with him being scum. I won't say I have a scum read on these two, but I am leaning that way. At any rate, I expect them to die quickly(especially if a SK exists), and if they last till lylo they are very likely scum. Snarfs I read as probably town. I like his play so far, as it reminds me of my own at times. He's asking a lot of questions, and poking people when he sees something he doesn't like. However, this is a legit mafia strat as well. Altogether though he lands on the town side for me. VE: Not really sure right now. I need more content, and need to go over his filter a few more times. Solidly null read right now. phagga looks scummy to me right now. That's a day 1 read though, so it could change drastically. I don't intend on building a case right now(I would need to spend some time and make sure), but something looks off. prplhz, prob town. His posting seems pretty standard town prplhz, though I'd really like to see him stop focusing on Zentor as I think that is a dead end. Strongandbig gets bonus points for his mason breadcrumb scheme. Fact is, it's a good plan, and shows a good mindset. He's been reading filters and putting in effort, though I don't agree with his snarfs post. So far I see strong town play, though I really don't like his most recent post about Zentor being the SK. That post really rubbed me the wrong way. Tentative town. The only reason I'm not more pro town on him is that his type of play is the type I get thrown by. Forumite has been strong and forward in his posts this game, so far I like them. I've only filtered him the one time though, but I'm leaning town. I need to look into him again, because I can't really remember specifics of why I had him written down prob town. Sbrubbles hasn't been super active, but I like all his posts. In particular I feel like he has some good thought processes going on in his posts, and I have a strong town read on him. He needs to pick up his activity level though, or my read will slowly degrade. Marvellosity. I still need to compare this game to the Newbie VI game I hosted, but so far I think marv is probably town, and not a good lynch. I need to do a bit more legwork though to see if that opinion holds up. bluelightz I have no idea. If I had no prior knowledge of him I would lean strongly scum, but as such.... who knows. Ace I'm not going to worry about. Every game I have ever seen him play(or played with him) I think he is scum(and this game is no exception). I mean that literally - every game. I think the reason Ace has such a strong scum game is because his town play is scummy as hell. As such, I'm hoping mafia(or SK) shoot him tonight, and make my life easier I'll delve into him on Day 2 if we are both alive.Honestly, typing this out is more for me than for anyone else, but here's my current breakdown: Town Sbrubbles(my roommate's convinced he's scum )Zentor Leaning Town snarfs prplhz Forumite? Somewhat Scummy Ace phagga In the event of my death, do with this what you will. I'm heading to dinner and will be back after the Daypost. | ||
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SamuelLJackson
223 Posts
On April 25 2012 06:16 Forumite wrote: To clarify, you think what happened was that Marvel is scum, he got too close to getting lynched, and everyone changed their mind and went for a no-lynch? I don´t know, it was very close to the lynch and we didn´t have a clear candidate, going for a no-lynch felt right at the time. I don't know if marv is scum but I think some of the guys changing their mind last second seem pretty suspicious to me. I just don't know which of those. Radfield sounds like the best bet for tomorrow to me. He's basicly involved as mafia in every scenario I can think of. But that's all under the assumption that we don't have 3 to 4 vets, all being town and all chickening out last second for their own reasons. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On April 25 2012 06:12 Forumite wrote: What do you think about snarfs? You and him are the only players I haven´t seen playing before. Having had a look through his filter, he seems to be posting quite normally. Perhaps s&b's case on him was a little forced on him after all. I found his going after me for my 'soft-defences' to be really quite odd. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
Zentor is being actively unhelpful. In fact that's all he's doing. Where is this town read coming from? | ||
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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
If we only have 1 kill tonight though, then if the vigilante hits on night 2 he can confirm himself when he claims the extra KP. I can't remember if people are informed about protected hits though(or even if that matters), and I gotta run. | ||
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prplhz
Denmark8045 Posts
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MrZentor
United States1648 Posts
On April 25 2012 06:20 Forumite wrote: MrZentor, why do you think prplhz is scum? The things he does that you think are suspicious are not suspicous to me, at least not coming from him. I don't think prphlz is scum anymore. I posted this. On April 24 2012 06:11 MrZentor wrote: Hey guys! Here are my thoughts. Forumrite and Prphlz are being stupid for attacking me even though it's obvious that I'm innocent. I have a feeling scum would switch over to an easier lynch such as Marv or Sbrubbles. Everybody who keeps repeating how innocent I am is annoying for being ridiculously ridiculously redundant. I feel at this point talking about how innocent I am is like talking about what the masons should do. We need to do four things. 1. Decide if we have a lynch or not- I feel we should because of what somebody said about it not helping us all if we don't lynch somebody, because we'll end up losing on the same day anyways. 2. Decide if we want to lynch a lurker or an active person- I would like to lynch a lurker, because currently there isn't any solid case on any active person, and I would prefer to lose a lurker over an active person. 3. Lower the number of possible lynch victims- I believe right now 6 different people are being voted for. That means scum have complete control of the lynch; we need to have 1-2 suspects, or we're not going to get a good lynch. 4. We need to decide who to lynch. I'll be back soon with a suitable lurker to lynch. I posted that I posted it. Now you're making me post that I posted that I posted it and posted it. Anymore questions? | ||
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Forumite
Sweden3280 Posts
On April 25 2012 06:25 marvellosity wrote: Having had a look through his filter, he seems to be posting quite normally. Perhaps s&b's case on him was a little forced on him after all. I found his going after me for my 'soft-defences' to be really quite odd. Snarf went after you for soft-defending? Meh, you are not the only one called out for soft-defending. On April 25 2012 06:23 SamuelLJackson wrote: I don't know if marv is scum but I think some of the guys changing their mind last second seem pretty suspicious to me. I just don't know which of those. Radfield sounds like the best bet for tomorrow to me. He's basicly involved as mafia in every scenario I can think of. But that's all under the assumption that we don't have 3 to 4 vets, all being town and all chickening out last second for their own reasons. Was the case on Marvel that strong? What I saw at the time felt like it was more about him staying under the radar than him actually doing anything weird, on the other hand my readthrough was kind of rushed with just an hour before the lynch. There were a few players up for a lynch. If there were scum voting for a no-lynch, then it could have been to defend anyone of the frontrunners. | ||
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Forumite
Sweden3280 Posts
On April 25 2012 06:27 Radfield wrote: Oh yeah, I meant to mention this earlier, but I don't think vigilantes should shoot tonight. Knowing whether or not there is a serial killer is going to be really important knowledge. Consider that if we get two kills tonight, the vigilante is not confirmed even if he hits scum. If we only have 1 kill tonight though, then if the vigilante hits on night 2 he can confirm himself when he claims the extra KP. I can't remember if people are informed about protected hits though(or even if that matters), and I gotta run. Makes sense. People are informed if they are roleblocked, which they are by both jailors and roleblockers, but neither the jailed nor the jailor is informed if a kill take place. | ||
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Forumite
Sweden3280 Posts
On April 25 2012 06:34 MrZentor wrote: I don't think prphlz is scum anymore. I posted this. I posted that I posted it. Now you're making me post that I posted that I posted it and posted it. Anymore questions? I don´t follow your reasoning, you are saying that prplhz and I must be town because we are going after you, an obvious town who won´t ever get lynched? That sounds like you defending us, while defending yourself at the same time. "Let´s be friends, we´re all town here" | ||
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