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Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
April 24 2012 22:29 GMT
#421
I am a one-shot cop.

Last night I used my check on Ace, he flipped clean. Given that only 1 KP was fired last night, and it was predictably fired at Toad/Sandro, I think we can safely assume there is only 1 anti-town KP in play(ie, no SK).

This means that mafia cannot kill me without simultaneously confirming Ace as town.

Now, why should you believe me? I can state with 100% accuracy that there exists no other 1 shot cops in this game. If you check the C9++ setup, there can never be multiple 1-shot cops. There can be regular cops in conjunction with 1-shot cops, but never more than 1 one-shot. (WBG did state he was altering the setup, but I highly doubt he altered it in that way).

If I am faking, than any 1-shot cop out there should be instantly counter-claiming me and coming out with their checks. That will not happen however, as mafia then run the risk of losing a member and confirmed both me and Ace in one swoop.

At any rate, this should confirm Ace as town to everyone. It's possibly he is godfather, but with RNGed roles, and only a 75% chance of a GF existing in the setup, I am willing to gamble that I'm not THAT unlucky.

Maybe you think me AND ace are scum, but realize that would be an exceptionally foolish play for a stacked mafia team that could probably cruise to victory on standard play.

If you think I am mafia, and trying to buy cred(or get ace of my back) by faking a clean check, then you STILL need to see Ace as Town.


Ace is Town, I am a cop, and the masons need to claim if they are in play.
Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
April 24 2012 22:31 GMT
#422
and now I'm off to play SC!
MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
April 24 2012 22:37 GMT
#423
Yeah, if masons claim, we'll have a really good idea on who scum are.
Falling’s just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination.
Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
April 24 2012 23:05 GMT
#424
Radfield, how can you be sure there is only one 1-shot Cop? Did you get this confirmed from the hosts, or is it just you expecting this setup to be exactly like the C9++ setup? What do you base that on?
:3
Snarfs
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1006 Posts
April 24 2012 23:08 GMT
#425
On April 25 2012 06:39 Forumite wrote:
Was the case on Marvel that strong? What I saw at the time felt like it was more about him staying under the radar than him actually doing anything weird, on the other hand my readthrough was kind of rushed with just an hour before the lynch.

I'm curious if you think "staying under the radar" is a town-tell or a scum-tell. The reason I called out marvellous are because I thought this "staying under the radar" was a scum-tell, do you think differently? Keep in mind that while I pointed out what I believed were soft-defences of other players (they may have just been marv contributing in his own way), the main emphasis of my point was that that was all he had done at that point in time.

How do you expect scum to act? All in your face like MrZentor?



Also, VisceraEyes has disappeared again. This does not sit well with me.
Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
April 24 2012 23:14 GMT
#426
On April 25 2012 08:08 Snarfs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2012 06:39 Forumite wrote:
Was the case on Marvel that strong? What I saw at the time felt like it was more about him staying under the radar than him actually doing anything weird, on the other hand my readthrough was kind of rushed with just an hour before the lynch.

I'm curious if you think "staying under the radar" is a town-tell or a scum-tell. The reason I called out marvellous are because I thought this "staying under the radar" was a scum-tell, do you think differently? Keep in mind that while I pointed out what I believed were soft-defences of other players (they may have just been marv contributing in his own way), the main emphasis of my point was that that was all he had done at that point in time.

How do you expect scum to act? All in your face like MrZentor?



Also, VisceraEyes has disappeared again. This does not sit well with me.

The other way around, I hadn´t seen anything weird from Marvel, which made me think he was town with a slow start. I understand how several got suspicious of him precisely because he hadn´t done much, I just didn´t pick up on that at the time of the lynch.
:3
Snarfs
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1006 Posts
April 24 2012 23:16 GMT
#427
On April 25 2012 08:14 Forumite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2012 08:08 Snarfs wrote:
On April 25 2012 06:39 Forumite wrote:
Was the case on Marvel that strong? What I saw at the time felt like it was more about him staying under the radar than him actually doing anything weird, on the other hand my readthrough was kind of rushed with just an hour before the lynch.

I'm curious if you think "staying under the radar" is a town-tell or a scum-tell. The reason I called out marvellous are because I thought this "staying under the radar" was a scum-tell, do you think differently? Keep in mind that while I pointed out what I believed were soft-defences of other players (they may have just been marv contributing in his own way), the main emphasis of my point was that that was all he had done at that point in time.

How do you expect scum to act? All in your face like MrZentor?



Also, VisceraEyes has disappeared again. This does not sit well with me.

The other way around, I hadn´t seen anything weird from Marvel, which made me think he was town with a slow start. I understand how several got suspicious of him precisely because he hadn´t done much, I just didn´t pick up on that at the time of the lynch.

Okay. What do you think of VE disappearing combined with his contributions so far?
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
April 24 2012 23:20 GMT
#428
Radfield: If there is an SK and he/she aimed at the same target as Mafia then we wouldn't know.

But ehhhhh I'm buying your claim for now unless there is a counter-claim. I don't even think your balls are big enough (unlike mine) to claim fake claim Cop so quickly into Day 2.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
April 24 2012 23:21 GMT
#429
There is also the possibility of a framer.
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 24 2012 23:24 GMT
#430
:/

I was hoping Sandro would come in and balance out some of this Toad. Not that I disliked Toad's posting (in spite of the majority of it being about me :S), but there was just so much TOAD and so little Sandro.

Unless Rad and Ace are both scum (imba?) I have to believe that Rad is telling the truth about his claim. However, unlike Radfield I'm not so willing to dismiss the idea that Ace is GF based on "Radfield's luck". However, facts is facts, and I don't see Radfield fake-claiming DT just to clear someone. Therefor, I'm willing to believe Radfield's claim and I'm also willing to reserve judgement on Ace until I see more of his play.

I didn't mind it so much yesterday, but today MrZentor's self-vote seems...very strange. Like, he claims the point yesterday was to gauge reactions and stuff, but he never unvoted and he never really did anything with that information. And today, it feels more like trying to stay consistent - I mean, what reactions are there to gauge that he couldn't have observed yesterday?

I don't like it. MrZentor, can you explain in detail why you felt the need to vote for yourself again today?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Snarfs
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1006 Posts
April 24 2012 23:26 GMT
#431
On April 25 2012 08:24 VisceraEyes wrote:
:/

I was hoping Sandro would come in and balance out some of this Toad. Not that I disliked Toad's posting (in spite of the majority of it being about me :S), but there was just so much TOAD and so little Sandro.

Unless Rad and Ace are both scum (imba?) I have to believe that Rad is telling the truth about his claim. However, unlike Radfield I'm not so willing to dismiss the idea that Ace is GF based on "Radfield's luck". However, facts is facts, and I don't see Radfield fake-claiming DT just to clear someone. Therefor, I'm willing to believe Radfield's claim and I'm also willing to reserve judgement on Ace until I see more of his play.

I didn't mind it so much yesterday, but today MrZentor's self-vote seems...very strange. Like, he claims the point yesterday was to gauge reactions and stuff, but he never unvoted and he never really did anything with that information. And today, it feels more like trying to stay consistent - I mean, what reactions are there to gauge that he couldn't have observed yesterday?

I don't like it. MrZentor, can you explain in detail why you felt the need to vote for yourself again today?

There you are! What happened to the VE from C9++? . So you mislynched C_C... coulda happened to anyone! You were still awesome at finding scum and I wouuldn't mind your help on this one as well! So, get back in the game, man! Be that awesome dominating VE we all love! Find us some scum!
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
April 24 2012 23:26 GMT
#432
Check my filter bro - I got mad plays.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 24 2012 23:31 GMT
#433
On April 25 2012 08:26 Snarfs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2012 08:24 VisceraEyes wrote:
:/

I was hoping Sandro would come in and balance out some of this Toad. Not that I disliked Toad's posting (in spite of the majority of it being about me :S), but there was just so much TOAD and so little Sandro.

Unless Rad and Ace are both scum (imba?) I have to believe that Rad is telling the truth about his claim. However, unlike Radfield I'm not so willing to dismiss the idea that Ace is GF based on "Radfield's luck". However, facts is facts, and I don't see Radfield fake-claiming DT just to clear someone. Therefor, I'm willing to believe Radfield's claim and I'm also willing to reserve judgement on Ace until I see more of his play.

I didn't mind it so much yesterday, but today MrZentor's self-vote seems...very strange. Like, he claims the point yesterday was to gauge reactions and stuff, but he never unvoted and he never really did anything with that information. And today, it feels more like trying to stay consistent - I mean, what reactions are there to gauge that he couldn't have observed yesterday?

I don't like it. MrZentor, can you explain in detail why you felt the need to vote for yourself again today?

There you are! What happened to the VE from C9++? . So you mislynched C_C... coulda happened to anyone! You were still awesome at finding scum and I wouuldn't mind your help on this one as well! So, get back in the game, man! Be that awesome dominating VE we all love! Find us some scum!


No one loves "dominating VE", but I'll certainly try and keep more active than most of D1.

/salute

How do you feel about MrZentor? I feel like a lot of people were throwing around "town" a lot in conjunction with MrZentor, so the fact that he didn't die overnight is kinda surprising to me. Taken with his mystifying self-vote immediately into D2, what do you think about him now?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
April 24 2012 23:36 GMT
#434
VE, voting for yourself is terribly fun.

You should try it sometime.

Also, I tried to unvote myself and vote for no lynch yesterday, but I accidentally forgot to bold it. -.-
Falling’s just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination.
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
April 24 2012 23:36 GMT
#435
I actually think Zentor is the right lynch today. It wasn't until the end of the day yesterday that he really got run up on anyway. So lets get active today. Maybe he'll stop self-voting at L-1.

##vote Mr.Zentor
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Snarfs
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1006 Posts
April 24 2012 23:39 GMT
#436
On April 25 2012 08:31 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2012 08:26 Snarfs wrote:
On April 25 2012 08:24 VisceraEyes wrote:
:/

I was hoping Sandro would come in and balance out some of this Toad. Not that I disliked Toad's posting (in spite of the majority of it being about me :S), but there was just so much TOAD and so little Sandro.

Unless Rad and Ace are both scum (imba?) I have to believe that Rad is telling the truth about his claim. However, unlike Radfield I'm not so willing to dismiss the idea that Ace is GF based on "Radfield's luck". However, facts is facts, and I don't see Radfield fake-claiming DT just to clear someone. Therefor, I'm willing to believe Radfield's claim and I'm also willing to reserve judgement on Ace until I see more of his play.

I didn't mind it so much yesterday, but today MrZentor's self-vote seems...very strange. Like, he claims the point yesterday was to gauge reactions and stuff, but he never unvoted and he never really did anything with that information. And today, it feels more like trying to stay consistent - I mean, what reactions are there to gauge that he couldn't have observed yesterday?

I don't like it. MrZentor, can you explain in detail why you felt the need to vote for yourself again today?

There you are! What happened to the VE from C9++? . So you mislynched C_C... coulda happened to anyone! You were still awesome at finding scum and I wouuldn't mind your help on this one as well! So, get back in the game, man! Be that awesome dominating VE we all love! Find us some scum!


No one loves "dominating VE", but I'll certainly try and keep more active than most of D1.

/salute

How do you feel about MrZentor? I feel like a lot of people were throwing around "town" a lot in conjunction with MrZentor, so the fact that he didn't die overnight is kinda surprising to me. Taken with his mystifying self-vote immediately into D2, what do you think about him now?

I feel like he's playing weird, just like everyone else feels. Whether it's weird town or weird scum is hard to tell. I really didn't like his list, as I mentioned. I also don't like the fact that currently, since he's discounted prplhz, he doesn't have a single scum read down in thread. Why would a town person not want his scum-reads in the thread to discuss with others. The only explanation I can think of there is that he thinks he's better than everyone else in the game and wants to do all the work himself. Judging by the player list, I doubt this is the case.

One thing to note is he got quite cocky as scum near the end of DFM2. Perhaps this has carried over to this game.
Snarfs
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1006 Posts
April 24 2012 23:40 GMT
#437
Based on what I just posted, I'm also feeling a Zentor lynch. That said, it's still VERY early in the day so I'm not going to stop questioning other people.

##Vote MrZentor
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
April 24 2012 23:42 GMT
#438
##vote: MrZentor.
He just doesn't seem like he's trying, or if he is trying it's at something other than "helping the town."

If he can prove that there's some meat to this weirdness of his then I'll change my vote.
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
Snarfs
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1006 Posts
April 24 2012 23:42 GMT
#439
On April 25 2012 08:31 VisceraEyes wrote:
No one loves "dominating VE"

Off-topic, but I do <3. Scum hates it a lot more than town does.
Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
April 24 2012 23:42 GMT
#440
On April 25 2012 08:16 Snarfs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2012 08:14 Forumite wrote:
On April 25 2012 08:08 Snarfs wrote:
On April 25 2012 06:39 Forumite wrote:
Was the case on Marvel that strong? What I saw at the time felt like it was more about him staying under the radar than him actually doing anything weird, on the other hand my readthrough was kind of rushed with just an hour before the lynch.

I'm curious if you think "staying under the radar" is a town-tell or a scum-tell. The reason I called out marvellous are because I thought this "staying under the radar" was a scum-tell, do you think differently? Keep in mind that while I pointed out what I believed were soft-defences of other players (they may have just been marv contributing in his own way), the main emphasis of my point was that that was all he had done at that point in time.

How do you expect scum to act? All in your face like MrZentor?



Also, VisceraEyes has disappeared again. This does not sit well with me.

The other way around, I hadn´t seen anything weird from Marvel, which made me think he was town with a slow start. I understand how several got suspicious of him precisely because he hadn´t done much, I just didn´t pick up on that at the time of the lynch.

Okay. What do you think of VE disappearing combined with his contributions so far?

I don´t like him not being active, that´s unusual. I expect people to be suspicious of him though. Right now I´m grouping him with Marvel, I´ll hold my judgement for a while and see if they start posting substance.
:3
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