Match Making Rating Tool - Page 148

KillerofGods

United States34 Posts

May 02 2013 02:19 GMT

#2941

On May 02 2013 11:11 HeavenScent wrote:
Good afternoon,

I am not sure if I am posting in the right area, however I am having some real difficulties using MMR stats in the new season. The game are not being compilled correctly and the error message;

- DATACOLLECTION IS LOCKED AT THE MOMENT! (is seen along with)
- FATALERROR WEBGRABBER Wrong Season! Update your DB File! READ: 13 EXPECTED: 12

Could anyone give me some guidance on how to rectfy this. I have downloaded the most up to date version of both sc2gears and mmr stats.

I used it in the previous season but reset it for the new season, knowing my MMR then not having it is worse then not having it at all

Thankyou in advance for your assistance;

MMR stats database is locked atm the blizzard webprofiles haven't updated for NA but once it does they will release an update for mmr stats that will correct it for the new season.

KillerofGods

United States34 Posts

May 02 2013 03:46 GMT

#2942

It looks like NA profiles are updated did/will the new database download automatically? Or do we have to download it manually when its up?

korona

1098 Posts

May 02 2013 03:49 GMT

#2943

On May 02 2013 12:46 KillerofGods wrote:
It looks like NA profiles are updated did/will the new database download automatically? Or do we have to download it manually when its up?

It is updated when sc2gears starts or manually from settings. And counting the US value at the moment. But it may take some time before new DB is published (when ready will send it to skeldark who then uploads it when he has time).

korona

1098 Posts

May 02 2013 03:56 GMT

#2944

On May 02 2013 08:33 _SpiRaL_ wrote:
The tool seems to be off for me, I wonder is it to do with me only having 1/40 games?

It has me at 996 and solidly into masters league but I am not even matching up against many masters players. Nearly all diamonds.

It might be do to the 1/40 games. You have only one good calculation. And all others are estimates based on typical change against even MMR opponent. Yours may have changed more...

And to face only people from your own league is typical for the new matchmaker (since start of s12). It pairs you primarily to others from your league who have similar MMR and secondarily to others from other leagues having similar MMR. I guess Blizzard got enough "why I am matched against people from other leagues" complaints and changed this... --> You cannot anymore estimate when you approach league borders just based on your opponent's leagues.

But it is possible that the offsets / promotion borders have changed for the new season. We will see this quite fast after the new DB is published if the new MMR values from 'good games' seem clearly consistently off.

dejavue

Germany47 Posts

May 02 2013 06:43 GMT

#2945

On May 02 2013 11:19 KillerofGods wrote:

MMR stats database is locked atm the blizzard webprofiles haven't updated for NA but once it does they will release an update for mmr stats that will correct it for the new season.

I am guessing this is the same for EU? Because the tool still shows me squarely in the mid of Gold league while I am now at the upper Platinum league...

Jimmeh

United Kingdom908 Posts

May 02 2013 06:47 GMT

#2946

On May 02 2013 12:49 korona wrote:

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it may take some time before new DB is published (when ready will send it to skeldark who then uploads it when he has time).

Do you want, or whoever else is in charge nowadays, your own FTP access for the server?

skeldark

Germany2223 Posts

May 02 2013 12:43 GMT

#2947

uploaded new Season 13 file.,
I hear bliz changed offsets again:

so old story: first weeks the data may look inaccurate until korona found the new offsets.
Also like always: old data is automatic repaired when new offsets are known

So ladder on...

@Jimmeh wrote pm
@korona pm Jimmeh,
oh and perhaps its time to stop supporting the old versions. the data is not valid anymore anyways and it just creates bandwith.

acidbean

Germany287 Posts

May 02 2013 13:34 GMT

#2948

The season should have started on the 1st of May (for EU at least). At least Feasts Twitter indicates that. So the start date in bnet.data is a day too early I think? Or doesn't it worked like that? I try to calculate the points for myself, that's why I was looking for the start date in the files.

Mackem

United Kingdom470 Posts

May 02 2013 13:49 GMT

#2949

Yeah, I've played 16 games so far this season and MMR Stats is telling me 'Pre-results - need more data'

Zuricko

2 Posts

May 02 2013 15:18 GMT

#2950

Would it be possible to post a mirror of the database files? I have been unable to access the main website for a few weeks now, and it seems others are having a similar problem. MMRTools can't seem to access the website either (since I can't), so I haven't been able to autoupdate (applies to both the plugin and the database files).

korona

1098 Posts

May 02 2013 15:45 GMT

#2951

On May 03 2013 00:18 Zuricko wrote:
Would it be possible to post a mirror of the database files? I have been unable to access the main website for a few weeks now, and it seems others are having a similar problem. MMRTools can't seem to access the website either (since I can't), so I haven't been able to autoupdate (applies to both the plugin and the database files).

Mirror of the DB file. Note that this is compatible only with HotS versions of the tool (9.0 or later):
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?t28o1gad1gmb5s6

It should be put to following directory (unzip it):
[PATH_TO]\Sc2gears\User content\Plugin file cache\mmr.plugin.MMRPlugin\

By using this db file it should solve the problems that some were having last week when they could not reach the website (bugs regarding emergency DB if no DB file is available. If does not solve let me know).

Edit: Others who have access to the website remember to restart sc2gears so the tool can fetch the new DB file. It's version number is 13.0 (It should print this to the main log when you start sc2gears: "hh:mm:ss OK Loading DB version 13.0 done", where hh:mm:ss is the time)

Edit2: Unzip the contents to that directory.

korona

1098 Posts

May 02 2013 15:46 GMT

#2952

On May 02 2013 22:34 acidbean wrote:
The season should have started on the 1st of May (for EU at least). At least Feasts Twitter indicates that. So the start date in bnet.data is a day too early I think? Or doesn't it worked like that? I try to calculate the points for myself, that's why I was looking for the start date in the files.

The date is correct. Blizzard set the starting date to past so that there would be some bonus pool available when season began.

On May 02 2013 21:43 skeldark wrote:
uploaded new Season 13 file.,
I hear bliz changed offsets again:

so old story: first weeks the data may look inaccurate until korona found the new offsets.
Also like always: old data is automatic repaired when new offsets are known

Thanks Skeldark. Will contact later Jimmeh.

The offset changes are not yet certain. We will have to see if there are changes. Although I have at least one personal match from yesterday that could suggest changes (have not checked the source data nor looked at general data uploaded after new DB yet). But if there are changes, it will take couple of weeks to collect enough data to be able to calculate offsets.

On May 02 2013 22:49 Mackem wrote:
Yeah, I've played 16 games so far this season and MMR Stats is telling me 'Pre-results - need more data'

Play more. Eventually you get a 'good game' from which your MMR can be calculated.

Edit: Offsets seem same or close the same for HotS. Will observe...

MrMatt

Canada225 Posts

May 03 2013 03:14 GMT

#2953

something seems weird. The tool is showing me around 927. just under masters line and I am playing plats plus diamond once in a while. getting quality 75 on most games. some 100 some 50. got a big jump up between two opponents as well that seems suspicious.

DoubleDice

Brazil21 Posts

May 03 2013 13:49 GMT

#2954

LOG FILE:
+ Show Spoiler +

9:20:36 MMR-Stats 9.2
9:20:36 --------INIT START--------
9:20:36 OK Sc2Gears auto-save is enabled.
9:20:36 OK File-Encoding UTF-8
9:20:36 Loading HOTS DB file...
9:20:36 OK Loading DB version 13.0 done
9:20:38 OK DB up to date!
9:20:38 Loading character profiles:
9:20:38 Profile: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/612917/2/DoubleDice/
9:20:38 OK Settings loaded!
9:20:38 OK Gamedata: 42 Games loaded.
9:20:38 Loading Archive...
9:20:38 OK Gamedata: 7 Games loaded.
9:20:38 Mac-OS detected!
9:20:38 Disabling Memory reader...
9:20:38 Disabling Game observer....
9:20:38 Memory scanner is disabled
9:20:38 OK Triggers ready!
9:20:39 OK: Program is up to date
9:20:39 --------INIT END--------
9:36:45 Post-trigger: Reading web profiles
9:36:49 Webgrabber: Player true
9:36:53 Webgrabber: Opponent true
9:36:53 Post-trigger: Done reading web profiles
9:36:53 Calculating adjusted points for the players (either Alg. A or B needs to succceed for certain player)
9:36:53 DATA Alg. A : failed, No pre-game data (RAM scanner possibly off) or pre-game data bad:
9:36:53 DATA Alg.B: failed, Unknown change points for player: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/612917/2/DoubleDice/
9:36:53 A -9999 B -9999

9:36:53
9:36:53 ERROR AFTERCHECK Both alg. A and B failed: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/612917/2/DoubleDice/
9:36:53 DATA Alg. A : failed, No pre-game data (RAM scanner possibly off) or pre-game data bad:
9:36:53 DATA Alg.B: failed, No Bonus Win: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/4539601/1/GeOrgi/
9:36:53 A -9999 B -9999

9:36:53
9:36:53 ERROR AFTERCHECK Both alg. A and B failed: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/4539601/1/GeOrgi/
9:36:53 ERROR LASTCHECK : Both players invalid
9:36:53 Gamecheck: false
9:36:53 GAME:
HotS
9:36:53 PREPLAYER 1:
Data: false
Reading: false
Adjusted: false
Dmmr: false
id:
playerlink:
game: Unknown
server:
league: ERROR
division_name: ERROR
Main race: unkown
Game race: unkown
gamedate: ERROR
mapname: ERROR
totalbonuspool: -9999
Wins: -9999
Looses: -9999
points: -9999
bonus: -9999
change_points: -9999
adjusted_points: -9999

9:36:53 PREPLAYER 2:
Data: false
Reading: false
Adjusted: false
Dmmr: false
id:
playerlink:
game: Unknown
server:
league: ERROR
division_name: ERROR
Main race: unkown
Game race: unkown
gamedate: ERROR
mapname: ERROR
totalbonuspool: -9999
Wins: -9999
Looses: -9999
points: -9999
bonus: -9999
change_points: -9999
adjusted_points: -9999

9:36:53 POSTPLAYER 1:
Data: false
Reading: false
Adjusted: false
Dmmr: false
id: 2-612917
playerlink: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/612917/2/DoubleDice/
game: HotS
server: US
league: diamond
division_name: kagg epsilon
Main race: z
Game race: z
gamedate: 5/3/2013
mapname: Star Station
totalbonuspool: 48
Wins: 6
Looses: 2
points: 132
bonus: 0
change_points: -9999
adjusted_points: 84

9:36:53 POSTPLAYER 2:
Data: false
Reading: false
Adjusted: false
Dmmr: false
id: 1-4539601
playerlink: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/4539601/1/GeOrgi/
game: HotS
server: US
league: diamond
division_name: vulture mu
Main race: t
Game race: t
gamedate: 5/3/2013
mapname: Star Station
totalbonuspool: 48
Wins: 21
Looses: 22
points: 108
bonus: 0
change_points: -9999
adjusted_points: 60

9:36:53 Dataset: (GAME: HotS)
--- GAMESTART ---
TIME: 1367584556477
VALID: false
Result for player 1: L
--- GAMEEND ---

9:36:53 POST-Trigger done
9:36:53 Data quality needs to be 100% to be able to calculate MMR
9:36:53 Data quality for calculating Player's MMR: 50% 
9:36:53 Data quality for calculating Opponent's MMR: 50% 
9:36:54 OK Uploader: game uploaded
9:36:54 Ladder Game Done!
9:36:54 --------------------------
10:31:57 Post-trigger: Reading web profiles
10:32:1 Webgrabber: Player true
10:32:5 Webgrabber: Opponent true
10:32:5 Post-trigger: Done reading web profiles
10:32:5 Calculating adjusted points for the players (either Alg. A or B needs to succceed for certain player)
10:32:5 DATA Alg. A : failed, No pre-game data (RAM scanner possibly off) or pre-game data bad:
10:32:5 DATA Alg.B: failed, Unknown change points for player: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/612917/2/DoubleDice/
10:32:5 A -9999 B -9999

10:32:5
10:32:5 ERROR AFTERCHECK Both alg. A and B failed: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/612917/2/DoubleDice/
10:32:5 DATA Alg. A : failed, No pre-game data (RAM scanner possibly off) or pre-game data bad:
10:32:5 DATA Alg.B: failed, No Bonus Win: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/4571678/1/Numo/
10:32:5 A -9999 B -9999

10:32:5
10:32:5 ERROR AFTERCHECK Both alg. A and B failed: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/4571678/1/Numo/
10:32:5 ERROR LASTCHECK : Both players invalid
10:32:5 Gamecheck: false
10:32:5 GAME:
HotS
10:32:5 PREPLAYER 1:
Data: false
Reading: false
Adjusted: false
Dmmr: false
id:
playerlink:
game: Unknown
server:
league: ERROR
division_name: ERROR
Main race: unkown
Game race: unkown
gamedate: ERROR
mapname: ERROR
totalbonuspool: -9999
Wins: -9999
Looses: -9999
points: -9999
bonus: -9999
change_points: -9999
adjusted_points: -9999

10:32:5 PREPLAYER 2:
Data: false
Reading: false
Adjusted: false
Dmmr: false
id:
playerlink:
game: Unknown
server:
league: ERROR
division_name: ERROR
Main race: unkown
Game race: unkown
gamedate: ERROR
mapname: ERROR
totalbonuspool: -9999
Wins: -9999
Looses: -9999
points: -9999
bonus: -9999
change_points: -9999
adjusted_points: -9999

10:32:5 POSTPLAYER 1:
Data: false
Reading: false
Adjusted: false
Dmmr: false
id: 2-612917
playerlink: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/612917/2/DoubleDice/
game: HotS
server: US
league: diamond
division_name: kagg epsilon
Main race: z
Game race: z
gamedate: 5/3/2013
mapname: Derelict Watcher TE
totalbonuspool: 48
Wins: 6
Looses: 3
points: 119
bonus: 0
change_points: -9999
adjusted_points: 71

10:32:5 POSTPLAYER 2:
Data: false
Reading: false
Adjusted: false
Dmmr: false
id: 1-4571678
playerlink: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/4571678/1/Numo/
game: HotS
server: US
league: diamond
division_name: colossus x-ray
Main race: z
Game race: z
gamedate: 5/3/2013
mapname: Derelict Watcher TE
totalbonuspool: 48
Wins: 7
Looses: 6
points: 127
bonus: 0
change_points: -9999
adjusted_points: 79

10:32:5 Dataset: (GAME: HotS)
--- GAMESTART ---
TIME: 1367587868306
VALID: false
Result for player 1: L
--- GAMEEND ---

10:32:5 POST-Trigger done
10:32:5 Data quality needs to be 100% to be able to calculate MMR
10:32:5 Data quality for calculating Player's MMR: 50% 
10:32:5 Data quality for calculating Opponent's MMR: 50% 
10:32:6 OK Uploader: game uploaded
10:32:6 Ladder Game Done!
10:32:6 --------------------------
10:44:37 Post-trigger: Reading web profiles
10:44:41 Webgrabber: Player true
10:44:45 Webgrabber: Opponent true
10:44:45 Post-trigger: Done reading web profiles
10:44:45 Calculating adjusted points for the players (either Alg. A or B needs to succceed for certain player)
10:44:45 DATA Alg. A : failed, No pre-game data (RAM scanner possibly off) or pre-game data bad:
10:44:45 DATA Alg.B: failed, No Bonus Win: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/612917/2/DoubleDice/
10:44:45 A -9999 B -9999

10:44:45
10:44:45 ERROR AFTERCHECK Both alg. A and B failed: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/612917/2/DoubleDice/
10:44:45 DATA Alg. A : failed, No pre-game data (RAM scanner possibly off) or pre-game data bad:
10:44:45 DATA Alg.B: failed, Unknown change points for player: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/4293318/1/Rainmaker/
10:44:45 A -9999 B -9999

10:44:45
10:44:45 ERROR AFTERCHECK Both alg. A and B failed: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/4293318/1/Rainmaker/
10:44:45 ERROR LASTCHECK : Both players invalid
10:44:45 Gamecheck: false
10:44:45 GAME:
HotS
10:44:45 PREPLAYER 1:
Data: false
Reading: false
Adjusted: false
Dmmr: false
id:
playerlink:
game: Unknown
server:
league: ERROR
division_name: ERROR
Main race: unkown
Game race: unkown
gamedate: ERROR
mapname: ERROR
totalbonuspool: -9999
Wins: -9999
Looses: -9999
points: -9999
bonus: -9999
change_points: -9999
adjusted_points: -9999

10:44:45 PREPLAYER 2:
Data: false
Reading: false
Adjusted: false
Dmmr: false
id:
playerlink:
game: Unknown
server:
league: ERROR
division_name: ERROR
Main race: unkown
Game race: unkown
gamedate: ERROR
mapname: ERROR
totalbonuspool: -9999
Wins: -9999
Looses: -9999
points: -9999
bonus: -9999
change_points: -9999
adjusted_points: -9999

10:44:45 POSTPLAYER 1:
Data: false
Reading: false
Adjusted: false
Dmmr: false
id: 2-612917
playerlink: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/612917/2/DoubleDice/
game: HotS
server: US
league: diamond
division_name: kagg epsilon
Main race: z
Game race: z
gamedate: 5/3/2013
mapname: Bel'Shir Vestige LE
totalbonuspool: 48
Wins: 7
Looses: 3
points: 132
bonus: 0
change_points: -9999
adjusted_points: 84

10:44:45 POSTPLAYER 2:
Data: false
Reading: false
Adjusted: false
Dmmr: false
id: 1-4293318
playerlink: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/4293318/1/Rainmaker/
game: HotS
server: US
league: diamond
division_name: ladranix alamo
Main race: z
Game race: z
gamedate: 5/3/2013
mapname: Bel'Shir Vestige LE
totalbonuspool: 48
Wins: 7
Looses: 8
points: 72
bonus: 0
change_points: -9999
adjusted_points: 24

10:44:45 Dataset: (GAME: HotS)
--- GAMESTART ---
TIME: 1367588628026
VALID: false
Result for player 1: W
--- GAMEEND ---

10:44:45 POST-Trigger done
10:44:45 Data quality needs to be 100% to be able to calculate MMR
10:44:45 Data quality for calculating Player's MMR: 50% 
10:44:45 Data quality for calculating Opponent's MMR: 50% 
10:44:46 OK Uploader: game uploaded
10:44:46 Ladder Game Done!
10:44:46 --------------------------

My last games has allways been like this any help?

dashiz

Costa Rica193 Posts

May 03 2013 16:24 GMT

#2955

Anyone know when GM will open up again?

MrMatt

Canada225 Posts

May 03 2013 16:37 GMT

#2956

On May 04 2013 01:24 dashiz wrote:
Anyone know when GM will open up again?

usually 1 week into the new season.

Meteo Rain

Finland98 Posts

May 03 2013 17:52 GMT

#2957

37 games played and it still hasn't calculated my MMR... man

korona

1098 Posts

May 03 2013 18:25 GMT

#2958

On May 04 2013 02:52 Meteo Rain wrote:
37 games played and it still hasn't calculated my MMR... man

You might want to enable memory reader. If its off only data from matches where opponent wins & has bonus pool left can _potentially_ be used. Only 3 times this pre-requisite has been met in your 37 matches (in early season active players often have used all their bonus points as max bonus pool is still small). And for those 3 other requirements were not filled (two of those were likely playing unranked). If you have memory reader on, then your MMR can potentially be calculated from every match.

korona

1098 Posts

May 03 2013 18:31 GMT

#2959

On May 03 2013 22:49 DoubleDice wrote:
LOG FILE:
+ Show Spoiler +

My last games has allways been like this any help?

Seems normal. In mac game launch detection is not supported --> no pre-game data. Thus your MMR can potentially only be calculated from matches where your opponent wins & has bonus pool left after match. Also your opponent's MMR can only potentially be calculated when you win & have bonus pool left after match.

ScorpionSC

United States21 Posts

May 03 2013 23:09 GMT

#2960

I think something maybe wrong with the memory reader. I've got it enabled, but have only been able to get 2 out of 61 good games. Profile is set right, just never seems to be able to pull a good game.

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