The Game [N] - Page 143

On March 27 2013 14:05 RyuSuzaku wrote:


How do we know they had 3 to start??!

They could have 4 members, they could have 5 members and double stacked keirathi, they could have a recruiter for all we know.

Same goes for the supposed missing roleblock. Making assumptions of the setup is a great way to lose the game even faster than we're losing already.



says the guy who claims that there was a KP missing n1

On March 27 2013 15:23 DarthPunk wrote:
Well. Scum are obviously pushing this lynch pretty hard. I think the scum team is probably DYH + Kita + Ryo. CC and layabout are 99% non town aligned third party.

On March 27 2013 15:24 RyuSuzaku wrote:
I don't see anything that was refuted.

Who's making the assumptions again? It's in words-it's not me.

On March 27 2013 15:25 DarthPunk wrote:


the fact that it could have been 5 mafia rounded up. That's what I disagreed with. No point arguing with scum however. So I am going to ignore you from now on.

On March 27 2013 15:26 RyuSuzaku wrote:


so you're ignoring the fact that someone could have been double stacked?

hahahaha and you're trying to call me scum. Such fail.

On March 27 2013 15:29 DarthPunk wrote:


why the hell would someone double stack keir and not VE?!?!?!!? you are desperate to stop town realising the bad situation we are in.

and you talk about assumptions while making them yourself. I'm not talking to you anymore. Feel free to keep abusing me. I will be vindicated because I KNOW you are scum.

On March 27 2013 15:37 WaveofShadow wrote:
It appears as though cosmic is going down whether you like it or not DP.
I think the most we're going to learn from this is from those who think cc is mafia rather than 3rd party, namely kita. I find it hard to believe that they are lying about the third party issue because that means cc essentially killed layabout if he flips red OR black, (especially since layabout can't seem to get his story straight as to what the role/recruitment means) and I can't see a reason for cc outing another member of his scumteam for essentially no reason.

On March 27 2013 15:45 RyuSuzaku wrote:
to any townies who are lurking right now or are considering switching votes or whatever, think about what I said about the recruiting mechanic.

The mirror claims that he was basically just trolling VE when he told him he had a choice to join him or not. However, it doesn't make sense that cosmic and layabout would become lovers when connected. This has to be a lie, given that it actually is AGAINST cosmic's supposed wincon to connect to someone if that means there's now two ways to die. His claim actually makes literally no sense at all.

It makes far more sense to consider instead that the recruiter is scum. Why?

Well, a third party recruiter has the following HUGE problem:

what happens if he recruits a scum?

Either way, whether VE's description or cosmic's newer description of the role would basically break the game. I do not think a host would be allowed to create a setup in which a mafia member would be allowed to change his wincon because it creates a very very dirty situation. That mafia member would have to actively play against his previous wincondition, but then would have the identities of the other mafia. It just doesn't make much sense.

A mafia recruiter eliminates all these problems. It also makes the claim make much more sense.

The only thing we have to operate on is the fact that the claimer wants to live. Other than that we have no reason to believe the motivation. He's scum.

The votes also put this into perspective. Why, if cosmic were truly interested in finding scum, would he act the way he did regarding both kita and DP? The votes changed as it convenienced cosmic: when cosmic realized that DP could be convinced and kita could not be, he swapped a second time.

On March 27 2013 15:40 DarthPunk wrote:


can you not see that Ryu and Kita are scum. Stop being so wshy-washy. Take a stand a place your vote ffs.

On March 27 2013 15:46 DarthPunk wrote:


Look at that. He is implying that I am town here. after yelling that I am scum. THIS DUDE IS RED!

On March 27 2013 15:47 RyuSuzaku wrote:


nope.

it's what you WANT it to appear like. You're just harping on semantics.

You are The Mirror. A strange artifact collected by the foul noble family that owns the mansion, you have remained asleep for centuries waiting for the right chance to break free. Unaware of your powers, you have taken control of every mirror in the house. Behind these mirrors lies an alternate dimension of which you are the supreme ruler. While you had once controlled the kings of nations through your spell, you have remained trapped in an empty plane of space since the family had taken you. After being hidden away for centuries, you have finally gathered enough power to affect the real world once more.

You may appear in the mirror of any player to mason with them for a cycle. You can choose to communciate anonymously or not. If you mason with a player for two full cycles, they will become converted. Their free will trapped inside your mirror, the corporeal body remains as a servant to your will in the real world. When this happens, communciation is shut off and you may never mason with them again. At any time while masoning with you, a player may choose to look away from the mirror and break the communciation. After two full cycles of communication, that player becomes converted. You can select a target during any time in the game but you can not mason multiple players at once. You can convert mafia successfully. You can only have two converts at any given time. If any one of them dies before you, you can mason again in order to recruit a new mirror image.

Your win condition is to survive to the end of the game. The win condition of a mirror image is to make sure that you survive. You can not be killed at night. If you are lynched, your mirror images revert back to their original alignments.