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HyuN owed $23,000 in back pay and prize money by Quantic -…

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jeri
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany335 Posts
January 01 2014 11:56 GMT
#261
haha not the first and not the last ripoff of a gamer
"The voices are back. Excellent." Dexter Morgan
aTnClouD
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Italy2428 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-01 11:58:02
January 01 2014 11:56 GMT
#262
Well honestly Alternate owes me a lot of money too which they refuse to pay for no reason and to other players too, and I know many other players haven't been paid by their teams. Esport business is still very shady.
The problem is that other than bringing the facts to public attention the players have no power to do anything. And these swindling teams don't really give a fuck.
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JacobShock
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Denmark2485 Posts
January 01 2014 12:07 GMT
#263
Not the first time Simon has acted shady. I seem to remember controversy with a players flight ticket and shit like that.
"Right on" - Morrow
DwD
Profile Joined January 2010
Sweden8621 Posts
January 01 2014 12:09 GMT
#264
Here we go again ...
~ T-ARA ~ DREAMCATCHER ~ EVERGLOW ~ OH MY GIRL ~ DIA ~ BOL4 ~ CHUNGHA ~
BjoernK
Profile Joined April 2012
194 Posts
January 01 2014 12:09 GMT
#265
Aside from the unfortunate situation Hyun is in right now I found it interesting to see that a player of hyun's calibre gets a regular income of around 2200 dollars a month. That does not sound too bad to me.
Sapphire.lux
Profile Joined July 2010
Romania2620 Posts
January 01 2014 12:10 GMT
#266
Why the fuck does Dreamhack not pay the players directly?

I hope you'll find the cunt and make him pay. I'm sorry pros have to go through all this crap.

Head Coach Park: "They should buff tanks!"
artcoder
Profile Joined December 2013
Germany11 Posts
January 01 2014 12:11 GMT
#267
On January 01 2014 20:56 aTnClouD wrote:
Well honestly Alternate owes me a lot of money too which they refuse to pay for no reason and to other players too, and I know many other players haven't been paid by their teams. Esport business is still very shady.
The problem is that other than bringing the facts to public attention the players have no power to do anything. And these swindling teams don't really give a fuck.




I can understand your and hyuns frustration, but one thing that always astonishes me is that so many gamers don't have good contracts and they DON'T give a fuck about having a good insurance when it comes to work contracts o_0.

Man this is a job like any other and the first thing I did when I started working is because at one point or another you will get ripped off by your company. 4 Weeks ago a friend of mine got his contract cancelled for no reason at all. They found some shady arguments and that was it. So,... rip off is not only an esports thing!!
It happens everywhere were one guys has to give money to another, because this is what humans do since there is money around... they try to get an easy deal.


So: why the heck doesn't have every pro gramer a frickin ensurance that covers this shit and more important:
Why do so many pro gamers don't have proper contracts on what gets payed and what doesn't?
JacobShock
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Denmark2485 Posts
January 01 2014 12:11 GMT
#268
On January 01 2014 12:11 NmExZeus wrote:
Perhaps the TL community could try to raise a fund for Quantic gamers that have been cheated out of their money by the likes of Simon? Would be great if any major TL personalities decided to lead it


A really really nice sentiment, but I am afraid it's only a patch work solution. I feel like players really need a union to protect them.
"Right on" - Morrow
BVRHNT3R
Profile Joined October 2013
United States15 Posts
January 01 2014 12:13 GMT
#269
I can foresee in the future a player union being formed to stop this kind of treatment.
Deus Vult
belgid
Profile Joined December 2012
Israel13 Posts
January 01 2014 12:18 GMT
#270
I hope TL will try to help him, we must apply pressure on Quantic in some way. Please give us Email or some other way so we can all contact them, we can not accept this as a community.
frexuz
Profile Joined July 2012
Sweden1 Post
January 01 2014 12:24 GMT
#271
I donated $49. Happy new year HyuN!
http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/1u5003/donations_for_hyun_saving_hyun_he_may_continue/
aTnClouD
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Italy2428 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-01 12:32:47
January 01 2014 12:29 GMT
#272
On January 01 2014 21:11 artcoder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2014 20:56 aTnClouD wrote:
Well honestly Alternate owes me a lot of money too which they refuse to pay for no reason and to other players too, and I know many other players haven't been paid by their teams. Esport business is still very shady.
The problem is that other than bringing the facts to public attention the players have no power to do anything. And these swindling teams don't really give a fuck.




I can understand your and hyuns frustration, but one thing that always astonishes me is that so many gamers don't have good contracts and they DON'T give a fuck about having a good insurance when it comes to work contracts o_0.

Man this is a job like any other and the first thing I did when I started working is because at one point or another you will get ripped off by your company. 4 Weeks ago a friend of mine got his contract cancelled for no reason at all. They found some shady arguments and that was it. So,... rip off is not only an esports thing!!
It happens everywhere were one guys has to give money to another, because this is what humans do since there is money around... they try to get an easy deal.


So: why the heck doesn't have every pro gramer a frickin ensurance that covers this shit and more important:
Why do so many pro gamers don't have proper contracts on what gets payed and what doesn't?

Because you feel lucky to do what you love for a living and teams know you do and if you disagree they will take someone else who signs their conditions. Again, it's a very shady business.
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mouz.Wake
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Sweden136 Posts
January 01 2014 12:32 GMT
#273
On January 01 2014 11:58 zul wrote:
What does the quantic manager think? Hide for some time and everyone will forget? This will have a legal afterplay, even if it takes months or years to find him.


The Quantic manager is probably in chock like HyuN and I doubt the Quantic manager after the reformation was on a payroll either. In any regard, HyuN's manager should not be held accountable for something he didn't commit - he didn't hold the financial agreements here, the owner did.
FORMER StarCraft II Team Manager for mousesports || @I_am_Wake
Fuddudle
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom23 Posts
January 01 2014 12:32 GMT
#274
Its a shame that we see this happen so many times in the past, and it comes down to naming and shaming for people to see the dark side of esports organisations.
Dreamer.T
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3584 Posts
January 01 2014 12:37 GMT
#275
On January 01 2014 21:32 Fuddudle wrote:
Its a shame that we see this happen so many times in the past, and it comes down to naming and shaming for people to see the dark side of esports organisations.


Unfortunately, it happens nearly everywhere when money is involved. Really comes down to the person, some choose conduct business in a dishonest and shady manner, and some have a code they follow. Comes down to being able to see what kind of person you are doing business with, and that's very hard at times.
Forever the best, IMMvp <3
Clbull
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1439 Posts
January 01 2014 12:42 GMT
#276
On January 01 2014 20:56 aTnClouD wrote:
Well honestly Alternate owes me a lot of money too which they refuse to pay for no reason and to other players too, and I know many other players haven't been paid by their teams. Esport business is still very shady.
The problem is that other than bringing the facts to public attention the players have no power to do anything. And these swindling teams don't really give a fuck.

I never heard much about this before. Please enlighten us, man.
NEEDZMOAR
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Sweden1277 Posts
January 01 2014 12:43 GMT
#277
this makes me so angry. this is why Esports isnt legit yet....
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
January 01 2014 12:45 GMT
#278
you know what makes me mad? Quantic STILL exists after Proving its shady as fuck again and again
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
nkr
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Sweden5451 Posts
January 01 2014 12:48 GMT
#279
good start to the new year
ESPORTS ILLUMINATI
Aridhol
Profile Joined June 2013
Germany59 Posts
January 01 2014 12:48 GMT
#280
I hope he get all his money back, its a pretty hard story....
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