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HyuN owed $23,000 in back pay and prize money by Quantic -…

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Pyloss
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany1515 Posts
January 01 2014 09:55 GMT
#221
Hyun is like one of the nicest Person in Esports, I'M really feeling sad for him! Hope he gets his Price money.
I mean, he won a Tournament, and the Team uses the money to support a LOL-Team? holy shit...
<3 sOs, Parting, Mana, Honor, TaKe, Mcanning<3
Kheve
Profile Joined May 2013
323 Posts
January 01 2014 09:57 GMT
#222
On January 01 2014 18:49 opterown wrote:
@boycotting the sponsors discussion

at the end of the day, we (esports industry) need them more than they need us, and they do good for the scene, so please don't be dramatic about that.


Sponsors wont look at it as a boycott. They will look at it as a scam. They gave money to the team, and now they are supposed to bear the teams debts? In Japan yakuza ran such extortion scheme.

There is simply too many shady figures in esports in america for it to ever gain respectability. Forget about korea, kespa etc. I doubt american esport can even come close to european esports.
rudimentalfeelthelov
Profile Joined December 2013
Finland268 Posts
January 01 2014 09:58 GMT
#223
On January 01 2014 18:52 AyaaLa wrote:
we should killl the owner. basically do something that sets a deep and dark mark over his life and something people will see


No, we shouldn't kill anyone. I'm sure he would love to pay Hyun all the money he owes him, he just got into debts way over his head, expecting eSports to be somehow profitable. We should, however, make him sign some kind of a legal agreement that states that he will repay Hyun the money he owes him over a certain, acceptable period of time.
Kheve
Profile Joined May 2013
323 Posts
January 01 2014 09:59 GMT
#224
On January 01 2014 18:55 Pyloss wrote:
Hyun is like one of the nicest Person in Esports, I'M really feeling sad for him! Hope he gets his Price money.
I mean, he won a Tournament, and the Team uses the money to support a LOL-Team? holy shit...


And its perfectly legal lol.
MrProb
Profile Joined January 2011
Thailand794 Posts
January 01 2014 10:09 GMT
#225
I wish someone somewhere a millionaire, who would care enough about this and decide to do something to get a hold of Simon and see how he will respond.

This world, this community needed a Hero.
rave[wcr] wrote: wtf how can erik understand kelly, its like han solo and chewabacca overthere.
Yakikorosu
Profile Joined March 2013
1203 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-01 10:14:35
January 01 2014 10:09 GMT
#226
On January 01 2014 18:59 Kheve wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2014 18:55 Pyloss wrote:
Hyun is like one of the nicest Person in Esports, I'M really feeling sad for him! Hope he gets his Price money.
I mean, he won a Tournament, and the Team uses the money to support a LOL-Team? holy shit...


And its perfectly legal lol.


It's not legal if he had a contract, the problem is a Korean national finding a Canadian lawyer who is willing to represent him in a very small lawsuit (sorry, less than $30k is a very small lawsuit) in a field like eSports that most people over 30 probably won't even believe is a legitimate business. Then assuming he does, it takes a long time to get a default judgment (which is probably what he'd get) and then collect on it. It also matters who the contract was with--I am guessing Quantic's assets are owned by some kind of shell entity...

I don't want to get into legalese but recovering money for this type of thing through a legal process is hard, especially when the owner apparently no longer has any interest in preserving the team or brand. For a typical run-of-the-mill contract, like if HyuN was hired to build a house or something, you could find a cheap lawyer that does that kind of stuff a lot, but for a contract to play video games? Probably would be tough.

And yes, this is a huge shame and very sad. As a big TSL fan what I am hoping happens is that based on his strong performance in 2013 HyuN finds a new foreign sponsor (maybe CMStorm picks him up and pairs him with Polt? Would be awesome...) and then that new sponsor would have resources to help him recover some of what he's owed by Quantic.
FSKi
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States901 Posts
January 01 2014 10:10 GMT
#227
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BrieFanFiction
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
United States167 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-01 10:12:05
January 01 2014 10:11 GMT
#228
I will donate $10 to a crowd-funded lawyer for HyuN. I don't know how to set it all up though. Someone with clout please do that.
HandiQuacks
Profile Joined November 2012
United States16 Posts
January 01 2014 10:15 GMT
#229
On January 01 2014 19:11 BrieFanFiction wrote:
I will donate $10 to a crowd-funded lawyer for HyuN. I don't know how to set it all up though. Someone with clout please do that.

Not sure if it's going to a lawyer or food, but Hyun has something set up http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/1u5003/donations_for_hyun_saving_hyun_he_may_continue/
Poopyfacetomatonose
Grimmyman123
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada939 Posts
January 01 2014 10:30 GMT
#230
He's Canadian, where is Simon from? What's his address? Lynch him!

Seriously though, he is pursuable through the courts, etc.

Please tell me that this isnt another case of skype and gmail email address the extent of the personal information on hand for a fraudster.
Win. That's all that matters. Win. Nobody likes to lose.
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
January 01 2014 10:36 GMT
#231
Shit, that's so wrong.
The heart's eternal vow
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
January 01 2014 10:37 GMT
#232
It would just be great if some team would pick Hyun up and support him from now on. Liquid, Acer, mouz, your move. Show some heart in the cold world of business. I'm saying that with one blinking and one crying eye.

Hyun, keep fighting!
BrieFanFiction
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
United States167 Posts
January 01 2014 10:39 GMT
#233
On January 01 2014 19:15 HandiQuacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2014 19:11 BrieFanFiction wrote:
I will donate $10 to a crowd-funded lawyer for HyuN. I don't know how to set it all up though. Someone with clout please do that.

Not sure if it's going to a lawyer or food, but Hyun has something set up http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/1u5003/donations_for_hyun_saving_hyun_he_may_continue/


Donation out.
Shyndashu
Profile Joined September 2011
United States136 Posts
January 01 2014 10:40 GMT
#234
I hate logging on to see this kind of stuff happening in the esports industry. I know people (good people at that) like total biscuit are probably outraged at this kind of treatment of players. Sometimes I wish my wife would let me support a progamer because this is very sickening to the stomach.
covetousrat
Profile Joined October 2010
2109 Posts
January 01 2014 10:43 GMT
#235
Time to get the police involved?
Grimmyman123
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada939 Posts
January 01 2014 10:46 GMT
#236
Nah, Though I think a legal strongly worded letter, in an envelope clearly marked HAND DELIVERED and physically delivered to his place of employment will get his attention.

nothing gets more attention than when people start physically knocking on doors.
Win. That's all that matters. Win. Nobody likes to lose.
mostwanted
Profile Joined March 2011
83 Posts
January 01 2014 10:46 GMT
#237
this incident will discourage KR players to join foreign team.
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
January 01 2014 10:48 GMT
#238
On January 01 2014 13:34 SHOOG wrote:
Hope Hyun is able to get something, anything, from Quantic. Hate to see anything like this happen to players. This type of shadiness shouldn't be occurring in a 'pro' team.

I'm fully agreeing with you but I find it ironic you post something like this with an Azubu icon on your sig :D
The heart's eternal vow
Dreamer.T
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3584 Posts
January 01 2014 10:49 GMT
#239
Really hope he gets his money. I think had the person been honest, it would've been better than bullshitting Hyun slowly.
Forever the best, IMMvp <3
monsta
Profile Joined November 2012
172 Posts
January 01 2014 10:50 GMT
#240
#Simon #killingEsport

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