• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 09:05
CEST 15:05
KST 22:05
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Team TLMC #5 - Finalists & Open Tournaments0[ASL20] Ro16 Preview Pt2: Turbulence2Classic Games #3: Rogue vs Serral at BlizzCon9[ASL20] Ro16 Preview Pt1: Ascent10Maestros of the Game: Week 1/Play-in Preview12
Community News
Weekly Cups (Sept 8-14): herO & MaxPax split cups1WardiTV TL Team Map Contest #5 Tournaments0SC4ALL $6,000 Open LAN in Philadelphia7Weekly Cups (Sept 1-7): MaxPax rebounds & Clem saga continues29LiuLi Cup - September 2025 Tournaments3
StarCraft 2
General
Weekly Cups (Sept 8-14): herO & MaxPax split cups SpeCial on The Tasteless Podcast Team TLMC #5 - Finalists & Open Tournaments Weekly Cups (Sept 1-7): MaxPax rebounds & Clem saga continues #1: Maru - Greatest Players of All Time
Tourneys
Maestros of The Game—$20k event w/ live finals in Paris RSL: Revival, a new crowdfunded tournament series WardiTV TL Team Map Contest #5 Tournaments Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament SC4ALL $6,000 Open LAN in Philadelphia
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 491 Night Drive Mutation # 490 Masters of Midnight Mutation # 489 Bannable Offense Mutation # 488 What Goes Around
Brood War
General
BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ ASL20 General Discussion Playing StarCraft as 2 people on the same network [ASL20] Ro16 Preview Pt2: Turbulence Pros React To: SoulKey's 5-Peat Challenge
Tourneys
[ASL20] Ro16 Group C [ASL20] Ro16 Group B [IPSL] ISPL Season 1 Winter Qualis and Info! Is there English video for group selection for ASL
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Muta micro map competition Fighting Spirit mining rates [G] Mineral Boosting
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Borderlands 3 Path of Exile General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion LiquidDota to reintegrate into TL.net
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread The Big Programming Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
The Happy Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread High temperatures on bridge(s)
TL Community
BarCraft in Tokyo Japan for ASL Season5 Final The Automated Ban List
Blogs
The Personality of a Spender…
TrAiDoS
A very expensive lesson on ma…
Garnet
hello world
radishsoup
Lemme tell you a thing o…
JoinTheRain
RTS Design in Hypercoven
a11
Evil Gacha Games and the…
ffswowsucks
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1526 users

HyuN owed $23,000 in back pay and prize money by Quantic -…

Forum Index > SC2 General
614 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 9 10 11 12 13 31 Next All
Kon-Tiki
Profile Joined February 2011
United States402 Posts
January 01 2014 08:47 GMT
#201
This is really too bad. It almost seems criminal, if in fact it is not. Totally defeats the purpose of dedicating full time to programing. By the time Hyun gets the money, it will probably be too late
I am a leaf on the wind. Watch how I soar.
Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
January 01 2014 08:49 GMT
#202
Never had a good feeling about the team after ItsGosu went Quantic, which is partly why I left and quit. I was considering leaving even if I planned to stay in it. Nothing in particular I just did not feel they were an upstanding organization.
Semipro Terran player | Pokebunny#1710 | twitter.com/Pokebunny | twitch.tv/Pokebunny | facebook.com/PokebunnySC
ZodaSoda
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia1191 Posts
January 01 2014 08:57 GMT
#203
On January 01 2014 16:28 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2014 12:21 Undead1993 wrote:
ye you could feel in the last couple of tournaments that he was stressed out, poor guy. kind of sad how some foreign teams treat the clueless koreans, axiom obviously doesn't but.


Axiom is not a foreign team


Foreign owned, Foreign ran, Foreign paid...
LiquipediaI'm the strongest Dragon that you've ever seen, You're gonna die motherfucker, I take up five screens. -Kraid
GozoShioda
Profile Joined October 2013
205 Posts
January 01 2014 09:06 GMT
#204
SamBuca is a fucking faggot who inherited his daddy's fortune and due to the fact that the loser has no social skills or accomplishments on his own he tried to buy a pro gaming team and thought that by just throwing money at things he would succeed. Everytime this fucking loser would stop by the korean LoL players streams (who totally gave the vibe of being forced to stream). He would spend time in chat talking purely about money and how he was going to buy things for the players. Real talk this guy never actually talked about the players as actual people but rather just tools to make himself feel like he's actually remotely important.

Fuck I hate that guy.

User was warned for this post
Sprouter
Profile Joined December 2009
United States1724 Posts
January 01 2014 09:06 GMT
#205
This is really unfortunate. Seems to happen often in this industry. Hope other players learn to protect themselves in the future.
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
January 01 2014 09:07 GMT
#206
Why the hell would DH pay the prize money to the teams rather than the player? :o
dabom88
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States3483 Posts
January 01 2014 09:10 GMT
#207
On January 01 2014 17:57 ZodaSoda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2014 16:28 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On January 01 2014 12:21 Undead1993 wrote:
ye you could feel in the last couple of tournaments that he was stressed out, poor guy. kind of sad how some foreign teams treat the clueless koreans, axiom obviously doesn't but.


Axiom is not a foreign team


Foreign owned, Foreign ran, Foreign paid...

That'd be like saying FXO Korea was a foreign team.

Axiom's a Korean Team, just owned and sponsored by a foreign company.
You should not have to pay to watch the GSL, Proleague, or OSL at a reasonable time. That is not "fine" and it's BS to say otherwise. My sig since 2011. http://www.youtube.com/user/dabom88
hansonslee
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States2027 Posts
January 01 2014 09:11 GMT
#208
Fuck that guy. I thought he would have learned his lesson from his shit he pulled against MaSsan.

Here's the thread, if you guys are wondering:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=431056

Even though Simon had resolved the issue, he still pull the same shit against Quantic's star player Hyun! That guy not only needs to pay up but also needs to banished from eSports for good!
Seed's # 1 fan!!! #ForVengeance
zezamer
Profile Joined March 2011
Finland5701 Posts
January 01 2014 09:14 GMT
#209
I have no idea why tournament organizers still give the money to the team
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
January 01 2014 09:15 GMT
#210
On January 01 2014 18:10 dabom88 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2014 17:57 ZodaSoda wrote:
On January 01 2014 16:28 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On January 01 2014 12:21 Undead1993 wrote:
ye you could feel in the last couple of tournaments that he was stressed out, poor guy. kind of sad how some foreign teams treat the clueless koreans, axiom obviously doesn't but.


Axiom is not a foreign team


Foreign owned, Foreign ran, Foreign paid...

That'd be like saying FXO Korea was a foreign team.

Axiom's a Korean Team, just owned and sponsored by a foreign company.


Before Axiom got their Korean manager for the players I would say the distinction would have been that FXO had a full Korean staff team that stayed at the team house with the players. Axiom went a long time with just Crank doing that stuff.
ZodaSoda
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia1191 Posts
January 01 2014 09:20 GMT
#211
On January 01 2014 18:15 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2014 18:10 dabom88 wrote:
On January 01 2014 17:57 ZodaSoda wrote:
On January 01 2014 16:28 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On January 01 2014 12:21 Undead1993 wrote:
ye you could feel in the last couple of tournaments that he was stressed out, poor guy. kind of sad how some foreign teams treat the clueless koreans, axiom obviously doesn't but.


Axiom is not a foreign team


Foreign owned, Foreign ran, Foreign paid...

That'd be like saying FXO Korea was a foreign team.

Axiom's a Korean Team, just owned and sponsored by a foreign company.


Before Axiom got their Korean manager for the players I would say the distinction would have been that FXO had a full Korean staff team that stayed at the team house with the players. Axiom went a long time with just Crank doing that stuff.


Also FXO was not owned nor ran by FXO, Sponsored and paid sure...
LiquipediaI'm the strongest Dragon that you've ever seen, You're gonna die motherfucker, I take up five screens. -Kraid
Uldred
Profile Joined February 2013
Canada19 Posts
January 01 2014 09:24 GMT
#212
On January 01 2014 15:59 partydude89 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2014 12:31 Uldred wrote:
Really horrible on Quantic and Simon's part. I can't support any of their sponsors after this if it doesn't get resolved.

Burn Controllers, ROCCAT and Alienware won't ever receive my business after this.

I realize they aren't at fault, but they have some responsibility in this seeing as how their name and brand is attached to Quantic.


what? are you serious? do you know how sponsorships work? this isn't the fault of Burn, ROCCAT, and Alienware at all.


On January 01 2014 15:53 9-BiT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2014 12:31 Uldred wrote:
Really horrible on Quantic and Simon's part. I can't support any of their sponsors after this if it doesn't get resolved.

Burn Controllers, ROCCAT and Alienware won't ever receive my business after this.

I realize they aren't at fault, but they have some responsibility in this seeing as how their name and brand is attached to Quantic.

And this is why esports will never be taken seriously. You're scum.


Yes. I'm the scum here, not Simon Boudreault.

Did the sponsors just throw their money and product and branding at a team and expect to not be associated with them, even after the incident with MaSsan?

Dell/Alienware are a huge corporation, are you saying they can't afford to help HyuN who was cheated out of $23000?
Why not help him find a lawyer, or even provide one for him from their legal department when HE is the one getting shafted and they're getting free exposure?

Here is Quantic's front page:
http://puu.sh/65rI8.jpg

The first thing you see is Roccat's logo.

If e-sports is such a joke to those companies that they think they can slap their name on any team to get sales and then pull out when shit hits the fan, then I won't buy any of their products. If they choose to wash their hands of this then I'm washing my hands of them.
???
stayfrosty555
Profile Joined December 2012
Sweden3 Posts
January 01 2014 09:35 GMT
#213
On January 01 2014 18:07 JustPassingBy wrote:
Why the hell would DH pay the prize money to the teams rather than the player? :o


Maybe it was HyuNs wish, since he would have to pay taxes for the price money if they were paid out to him as an individual. See "payout policy" http://www.dreamhack.se/dhs13/esport/prize-money-policy/
wptlzkwjd
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada1240 Posts
January 01 2014 09:40 GMT
#214
On January 01 2014 18:10 dabom88 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2014 17:57 ZodaSoda wrote:
On January 01 2014 16:28 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On January 01 2014 12:21 Undead1993 wrote:
ye you could feel in the last couple of tournaments that he was stressed out, poor guy. kind of sad how some foreign teams treat the clueless koreans, axiom obviously doesn't but.


Axiom is not a foreign team


Foreign owned, Foreign ran, Foreign paid...

That'd be like saying FXO Korea was a foreign team.

Axiom's a Korean Team, just owned and sponsored by a foreign company.


Depends on what you identify as a foreign team. Is name and management more valid or is ownership and sponsorship?
Feel free to add me on steam: http://steamcommunity.com/id/MagnusAskeland/
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
January 01 2014 09:40 GMT
#215
On January 01 2014 18:24 Uldred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2014 15:59 partydude89 wrote:
On January 01 2014 12:31 Uldred wrote:
Really horrible on Quantic and Simon's part. I can't support any of their sponsors after this if it doesn't get resolved.

Burn Controllers, ROCCAT and Alienware won't ever receive my business after this.

I realize they aren't at fault, but they have some responsibility in this seeing as how their name and brand is attached to Quantic.


what? are you serious? do you know how sponsorships work? this isn't the fault of Burn, ROCCAT, and Alienware at all.


Show nested quote +
On January 01 2014 15:53 9-BiT wrote:
On January 01 2014 12:31 Uldred wrote:
Really horrible on Quantic and Simon's part. I can't support any of their sponsors after this if it doesn't get resolved.

Burn Controllers, ROCCAT and Alienware won't ever receive my business after this.

I realize they aren't at fault, but they have some responsibility in this seeing as how their name and brand is attached to Quantic.

And this is why esports will never be taken seriously. You're scum.


Yes. I'm the scum here, not Simon Boudreault.

Did the sponsors just throw their money and product and branding at a team and expect to not be associated with them, even after the incident with MaSsan?

Dell/Alienware are a huge corporation, are you saying they can't afford to help HyuN who was cheated out of $23000?
Why not help him find a lawyer, or even provide one for him from their legal department when HE is the one getting shafted and they're getting free exposure?

Here is Quantic's front page:
http://puu.sh/65rI8.jpg

The first thing you see is Roccat's logo.

If e-sports is such a joke to those companies that they think they can slap their name on any team to get sales and then pull out when shit hits the fan, then I won't buy any of their products. If they choose to wash their hands of this then I'm washing my hands of them.

I would not call you scum, but you are clearly an idiot.
Off-season = best season
Uldred
Profile Joined February 2013
Canada19 Posts
January 01 2014 09:43 GMT
#216
On January 01 2014 18:40 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2014 18:24 Uldred wrote:
On January 01 2014 15:59 partydude89 wrote:
On January 01 2014 12:31 Uldred wrote:
Really horrible on Quantic and Simon's part. I can't support any of their sponsors after this if it doesn't get resolved.

Burn Controllers, ROCCAT and Alienware won't ever receive my business after this.

I realize they aren't at fault, but they have some responsibility in this seeing as how their name and brand is attached to Quantic.


what? are you serious? do you know how sponsorships work? this isn't the fault of Burn, ROCCAT, and Alienware at all.


On January 01 2014 15:53 9-BiT wrote:
On January 01 2014 12:31 Uldred wrote:
Really horrible on Quantic and Simon's part. I can't support any of their sponsors after this if it doesn't get resolved.

Burn Controllers, ROCCAT and Alienware won't ever receive my business after this.

I realize they aren't at fault, but they have some responsibility in this seeing as how their name and brand is attached to Quantic.

And this is why esports will never be taken seriously. You're scum.


Yes. I'm the scum here, not Simon Boudreault.

Did the sponsors just throw their money and product and branding at a team and expect to not be associated with them, even after the incident with MaSsan?

Dell/Alienware are a huge corporation, are you saying they can't afford to help HyuN who was cheated out of $23000?
Why not help him find a lawyer, or even provide one for him from their legal department when HE is the one getting shafted and they're getting free exposure?

Here is Quantic's front page:
http://puu.sh/65rI8.jpg

The first thing you see is Roccat's logo.

If e-sports is such a joke to those companies that they think they can slap their name on any team to get sales and then pull out when shit hits the fan, then I won't buy any of their products. If they choose to wash their hands of this then I'm washing my hands of them.

I would not call you scum, but you are clearly an idiot.


Maybe I am the idiot. Maybe you are.
???
Azurues
Profile Joined March 2011
Malaysia5612 Posts
January 01 2014 09:46 GMT
#217
Wow here comes another e-sports cunt

tizzyxd
Profile Joined August 2013
Germany8 Posts
January 01 2014 09:48 GMT
#218
On January 01 2014 18:14 zezamer wrote:
I have no idea why tournament organizers still give the money to the team


There is nothing wrong with giving the money to the team. The managers need to handle all this stuff like paying bills, contracts and so much more stuff we wouldnt even think off. I just cant understand why there is no higher management which controls this stuff.

In my opinion there are several ways to solve this problem.

Hyun got a contract. So why isnt he contacting a lawyer like you guys already mentioned?
Another way would be to contact one of Quantic sponsors because at the end of the day the image of Quantic is damaged - and Quantic is associated with this big names like Razer and stuff. Sponsors wouldnt care about this normally (Which I understand) but hate against a company which youre sponsoring would may make them to do sth.

Also there is the already active """solution""" of contacting the community and try to get as many donations as possible. But honestly I dont feel like there will be so many donations as that hyun could say "well, atleast I got a part of it". I just got the impression that the sc2 community isnt that huge for that - but this is just my personal feeling.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
January 01 2014 09:49 GMT
#219
@boycotting the sponsors discussion

at the end of the day, we (esports industry) need them more than they need us, and they do good for the scene, so please don't be dramatic about that.
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
AyaaLa
Profile Joined February 2012
Spain629 Posts
January 01 2014 09:52 GMT
#220
we should killl the owner. basically do something that sets a deep and dark mark over his life and something people will see

User was temp banned for this post.
i balance whine all the time.
Prev 1 9 10 11 12 13 31 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Wardi Open
11:00
Mondays #51
WardiTV555
Harstem290
OGKoka 264
Rex141
CranKy Ducklings104
LiquipediaDiscussion
Afreeca Starleague
10:00
Ro16 Group C
Snow vs Sharp
Jaedong vs Mini
Afreeca ASL 17083
sctven
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Lowko297
Harstem 290
OGKoka 264
Rex 141
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 12473
Rain 5980
Bisu 5916
Flash 3767
Sea 2258
BeSt 1665
EffOrt 985
actioN 630
Hyun 464
ZerO 373
[ Show more ]
Stork 369
Zeus 292
Pusan 238
firebathero 219
Soulkey 189
Hyuk 175
ggaemo 144
Mong 110
JYJ107
Mind 97
Rush 89
Barracks 80
PianO 56
Sea.KH 52
hero 49
Aegong 44
Movie 33
Terrorterran 22
yabsab 17
soO 16
zelot 13
SilentControl 13
Noble 12
sSak 10
Shine 9
Sacsri 8
Bale 8
Hm[arnc] 5
Dota 2
singsing3130
Dendi839
BananaSlamJamma285
Fuzer 201
Counter-Strike
x6flipin693
byalli267
oskar74
markeloff74
edward35
Super Smash Bros
Westballz20
Other Games
tarik_tv5640
gofns5466
olofmeister1108
B2W.Neo713
crisheroes382
hiko333
XaKoH 243
QueenE55
Mew2King36
NeuroSwarm33
Liquid`VortiX3
Organizations
StarCraft: Brood War
UltimateBattle 342
lovetv 16
StarCraft 2
IntoTheiNu 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Nemesis2301
• Jankos605
Other Games
• Shiphtur48
Upcoming Events
Monday Night Weeklies
2h 55m
OSC
10h 55m
Sparkling Tuna Cup
20h 55m
Afreeca Starleague
20h 55m
Light vs Speed
Larva vs Soma
PiGosaur Monday
1d 10h
LiuLi Cup
1d 21h
RSL Revival
2 days
Maru vs Reynor
Cure vs TriGGeR
The PondCast
2 days
RSL Revival
3 days
Zoun vs Classic
Korean StarCraft League
4 days
[ Show More ]
RSL Revival
4 days
[BSL 2025] Weekly
5 days
BSL Team Wars
5 days
RSL Revival
5 days
Online Event
6 days
Wardi Open
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

BSL 20 Team Wars
Chzzk MurlocKing SC1 vs SC2 Cup #2
HCC Europe

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21 Points
ASL Season 20
CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
LASL Season 20
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1

Upcoming

2025 Chongqing Offline CUP
BSL Polish World Championship 2025
IPSL Winter 2025-26
BSL Season 21
SC4ALL: Brood War
BSL 21 Team A
Stellar Fest
SC4ALL: StarCraft II
EC S1
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
MESA Nomadic Masters Fall
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.