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Kon-Tiki
Profile Joined February 2011
United States402 Posts
January 01 2014 08:47 GMT
#201
This is really too bad. It almost seems criminal, if in fact it is not. Totally defeats the purpose of dedicating full time to programing. By the time Hyun gets the money, it will probably be too late
I am a leaf on the wind. Watch how I soar.
Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
January 01 2014 08:49 GMT
#202
Never had a good feeling about the team after ItsGosu went Quantic, which is partly why I left and quit. I was considering leaving even if I planned to stay in it. Nothing in particular I just did not feel they were an upstanding organization.
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ZodaSoda
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia1191 Posts
January 01 2014 08:57 GMT
#203
On January 01 2014 16:28 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2014 12:21 Undead1993 wrote:
ye you could feel in the last couple of tournaments that he was stressed out, poor guy. kind of sad how some foreign teams treat the clueless koreans, axiom obviously doesn't but.


Axiom is not a foreign team


Foreign owned, Foreign ran, Foreign paid...
LiquipediaI'm the strongest Dragon that you've ever seen, You're gonna die motherfucker, I take up five screens. -Kraid
GozoShioda
Profile Joined October 2013
205 Posts
January 01 2014 09:06 GMT
#204
SamBuca is a fucking faggot who inherited his daddy's fortune and due to the fact that the loser has no social skills or accomplishments on his own he tried to buy a pro gaming team and thought that by just throwing money at things he would succeed. Everytime this fucking loser would stop by the korean LoL players streams (who totally gave the vibe of being forced to stream). He would spend time in chat talking purely about money and how he was going to buy things for the players. Real talk this guy never actually talked about the players as actual people but rather just tools to make himself feel like he's actually remotely important.

Fuck I hate that guy.

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Sprouter
Profile Joined December 2009
United States1724 Posts
January 01 2014 09:06 GMT
#205
This is really unfortunate. Seems to happen often in this industry. Hope other players learn to protect themselves in the future.
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
January 01 2014 09:07 GMT
#206
Why the hell would DH pay the prize money to the teams rather than the player? :o
dabom88
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States3483 Posts
January 01 2014 09:10 GMT
#207
On January 01 2014 17:57 ZodaSoda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2014 16:28 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On January 01 2014 12:21 Undead1993 wrote:
ye you could feel in the last couple of tournaments that he was stressed out, poor guy. kind of sad how some foreign teams treat the clueless koreans, axiom obviously doesn't but.


Axiom is not a foreign team


Foreign owned, Foreign ran, Foreign paid...

That'd be like saying FXO Korea was a foreign team.

Axiom's a Korean Team, just owned and sponsored by a foreign company.
You should not have to pay to watch the GSL, Proleague, or OSL at a reasonable time. That is not "fine" and it's BS to say otherwise. My sig since 2011. http://www.youtube.com/user/dabom88
hansonslee
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States2027 Posts
January 01 2014 09:11 GMT
#208
Fuck that guy. I thought he would have learned his lesson from his shit he pulled against MaSsan.

Here's the thread, if you guys are wondering:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=431056

Even though Simon had resolved the issue, he still pull the same shit against Quantic's star player Hyun! That guy not only needs to pay up but also needs to banished from eSports for good!
Seed's # 1 fan!!! #ForVengeance
zezamer
Profile Joined March 2011
Finland5701 Posts
January 01 2014 09:14 GMT
#209
I have no idea why tournament organizers still give the money to the team
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
January 01 2014 09:15 GMT
#210
On January 01 2014 18:10 dabom88 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2014 17:57 ZodaSoda wrote:
On January 01 2014 16:28 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On January 01 2014 12:21 Undead1993 wrote:
ye you could feel in the last couple of tournaments that he was stressed out, poor guy. kind of sad how some foreign teams treat the clueless koreans, axiom obviously doesn't but.


Axiom is not a foreign team


Foreign owned, Foreign ran, Foreign paid...

That'd be like saying FXO Korea was a foreign team.

Axiom's a Korean Team, just owned and sponsored by a foreign company.


Before Axiom got their Korean manager for the players I would say the distinction would have been that FXO had a full Korean staff team that stayed at the team house with the players. Axiom went a long time with just Crank doing that stuff.
ZodaSoda
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia1191 Posts
January 01 2014 09:20 GMT
#211
On January 01 2014 18:15 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2014 18:10 dabom88 wrote:
On January 01 2014 17:57 ZodaSoda wrote:
On January 01 2014 16:28 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On January 01 2014 12:21 Undead1993 wrote:
ye you could feel in the last couple of tournaments that he was stressed out, poor guy. kind of sad how some foreign teams treat the clueless koreans, axiom obviously doesn't but.


Axiom is not a foreign team


Foreign owned, Foreign ran, Foreign paid...

That'd be like saying FXO Korea was a foreign team.

Axiom's a Korean Team, just owned and sponsored by a foreign company.


Before Axiom got their Korean manager for the players I would say the distinction would have been that FXO had a full Korean staff team that stayed at the team house with the players. Axiom went a long time with just Crank doing that stuff.


Also FXO was not owned nor ran by FXO, Sponsored and paid sure...
LiquipediaI'm the strongest Dragon that you've ever seen, You're gonna die motherfucker, I take up five screens. -Kraid
Uldred
Profile Joined February 2013
Canada19 Posts
January 01 2014 09:24 GMT
#212
On January 01 2014 15:59 partydude89 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2014 12:31 Uldred wrote:
Really horrible on Quantic and Simon's part. I can't support any of their sponsors after this if it doesn't get resolved.

Burn Controllers, ROCCAT and Alienware won't ever receive my business after this.

I realize they aren't at fault, but they have some responsibility in this seeing as how their name and brand is attached to Quantic.


what? are you serious? do you know how sponsorships work? this isn't the fault of Burn, ROCCAT, and Alienware at all.


On January 01 2014 15:53 9-BiT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2014 12:31 Uldred wrote:
Really horrible on Quantic and Simon's part. I can't support any of their sponsors after this if it doesn't get resolved.

Burn Controllers, ROCCAT and Alienware won't ever receive my business after this.

I realize they aren't at fault, but they have some responsibility in this seeing as how their name and brand is attached to Quantic.

And this is why esports will never be taken seriously. You're scum.


Yes. I'm the scum here, not Simon Boudreault.

Did the sponsors just throw their money and product and branding at a team and expect to not be associated with them, even after the incident with MaSsan?

Dell/Alienware are a huge corporation, are you saying they can't afford to help HyuN who was cheated out of $23000?
Why not help him find a lawyer, or even provide one for him from their legal department when HE is the one getting shafted and they're getting free exposure?

Here is Quantic's front page:
http://puu.sh/65rI8.jpg

The first thing you see is Roccat's logo.

If e-sports is such a joke to those companies that they think they can slap their name on any team to get sales and then pull out when shit hits the fan, then I won't buy any of their products. If they choose to wash their hands of this then I'm washing my hands of them.
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stayfrosty555
Profile Joined December 2012
Sweden3 Posts
January 01 2014 09:35 GMT
#213
On January 01 2014 18:07 JustPassingBy wrote:
Why the hell would DH pay the prize money to the teams rather than the player? :o


Maybe it was HyuNs wish, since he would have to pay taxes for the price money if they were paid out to him as an individual. See "payout policy" http://www.dreamhack.se/dhs13/esport/prize-money-policy/
wptlzkwjd
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada1240 Posts
January 01 2014 09:40 GMT
#214
On January 01 2014 18:10 dabom88 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2014 17:57 ZodaSoda wrote:
On January 01 2014 16:28 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On January 01 2014 12:21 Undead1993 wrote:
ye you could feel in the last couple of tournaments that he was stressed out, poor guy. kind of sad how some foreign teams treat the clueless koreans, axiom obviously doesn't but.


Axiom is not a foreign team


Foreign owned, Foreign ran, Foreign paid...

That'd be like saying FXO Korea was a foreign team.

Axiom's a Korean Team, just owned and sponsored by a foreign company.


Depends on what you identify as a foreign team. Is name and management more valid or is ownership and sponsorship?
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Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
January 01 2014 09:40 GMT
#215
On January 01 2014 18:24 Uldred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2014 15:59 partydude89 wrote:
On January 01 2014 12:31 Uldred wrote:
Really horrible on Quantic and Simon's part. I can't support any of their sponsors after this if it doesn't get resolved.

Burn Controllers, ROCCAT and Alienware won't ever receive my business after this.

I realize they aren't at fault, but they have some responsibility in this seeing as how their name and brand is attached to Quantic.


what? are you serious? do you know how sponsorships work? this isn't the fault of Burn, ROCCAT, and Alienware at all.


Show nested quote +
On January 01 2014 15:53 9-BiT wrote:
On January 01 2014 12:31 Uldred wrote:
Really horrible on Quantic and Simon's part. I can't support any of their sponsors after this if it doesn't get resolved.

Burn Controllers, ROCCAT and Alienware won't ever receive my business after this.

I realize they aren't at fault, but they have some responsibility in this seeing as how their name and brand is attached to Quantic.

And this is why esports will never be taken seriously. You're scum.


Yes. I'm the scum here, not Simon Boudreault.

Did the sponsors just throw their money and product and branding at a team and expect to not be associated with them, even after the incident with MaSsan?

Dell/Alienware are a huge corporation, are you saying they can't afford to help HyuN who was cheated out of $23000?
Why not help him find a lawyer, or even provide one for him from their legal department when HE is the one getting shafted and they're getting free exposure?

Here is Quantic's front page:
http://puu.sh/65rI8.jpg

The first thing you see is Roccat's logo.

If e-sports is such a joke to those companies that they think they can slap their name on any team to get sales and then pull out when shit hits the fan, then I won't buy any of their products. If they choose to wash their hands of this then I'm washing my hands of them.

I would not call you scum, but you are clearly an idiot.
Off-season = best season
Uldred
Profile Joined February 2013
Canada19 Posts
January 01 2014 09:43 GMT
#216
On January 01 2014 18:40 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2014 18:24 Uldred wrote:
On January 01 2014 15:59 partydude89 wrote:
On January 01 2014 12:31 Uldred wrote:
Really horrible on Quantic and Simon's part. I can't support any of their sponsors after this if it doesn't get resolved.

Burn Controllers, ROCCAT and Alienware won't ever receive my business after this.

I realize they aren't at fault, but they have some responsibility in this seeing as how their name and brand is attached to Quantic.


what? are you serious? do you know how sponsorships work? this isn't the fault of Burn, ROCCAT, and Alienware at all.


On January 01 2014 15:53 9-BiT wrote:
On January 01 2014 12:31 Uldred wrote:
Really horrible on Quantic and Simon's part. I can't support any of their sponsors after this if it doesn't get resolved.

Burn Controllers, ROCCAT and Alienware won't ever receive my business after this.

I realize they aren't at fault, but they have some responsibility in this seeing as how their name and brand is attached to Quantic.

And this is why esports will never be taken seriously. You're scum.


Yes. I'm the scum here, not Simon Boudreault.

Did the sponsors just throw their money and product and branding at a team and expect to not be associated with them, even after the incident with MaSsan?

Dell/Alienware are a huge corporation, are you saying they can't afford to help HyuN who was cheated out of $23000?
Why not help him find a lawyer, or even provide one for him from their legal department when HE is the one getting shafted and they're getting free exposure?

Here is Quantic's front page:
http://puu.sh/65rI8.jpg

The first thing you see is Roccat's logo.

If e-sports is such a joke to those companies that they think they can slap their name on any team to get sales and then pull out when shit hits the fan, then I won't buy any of their products. If they choose to wash their hands of this then I'm washing my hands of them.

I would not call you scum, but you are clearly an idiot.


Maybe I am the idiot. Maybe you are.
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Azurues
Profile Joined March 2011
Malaysia5612 Posts
January 01 2014 09:46 GMT
#217
Wow here comes another e-sports cunt

tizzyxd
Profile Joined August 2013
Germany8 Posts
January 01 2014 09:48 GMT
#218
On January 01 2014 18:14 zezamer wrote:
I have no idea why tournament organizers still give the money to the team


There is nothing wrong with giving the money to the team. The managers need to handle all this stuff like paying bills, contracts and so much more stuff we wouldnt even think off. I just cant understand why there is no higher management which controls this stuff.

In my opinion there are several ways to solve this problem.

Hyun got a contract. So why isnt he contacting a lawyer like you guys already mentioned?
Another way would be to contact one of Quantic sponsors because at the end of the day the image of Quantic is damaged - and Quantic is associated with this big names like Razer and stuff. Sponsors wouldnt care about this normally (Which I understand) but hate against a company which youre sponsoring would may make them to do sth.

Also there is the already active """solution""" of contacting the community and try to get as many donations as possible. But honestly I dont feel like there will be so many donations as that hyun could say "well, atleast I got a part of it". I just got the impression that the sc2 community isnt that huge for that - but this is just my personal feeling.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
January 01 2014 09:49 GMT
#219
@boycotting the sponsors discussion

at the end of the day, we (esports industry) need them more than they need us, and they do good for the scene, so please don't be dramatic about that.
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AyaaLa
Profile Joined February 2012
Spain629 Posts
January 01 2014 09:52 GMT
#220
we should killl the owner. basically do something that sets a deep and dark mark over his life and something people will see

User was temp banned for this post.
i balance whine all the time.
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