So disgusting! Paying an employee late, let alone not paying at all, is a crime. Man, this dude and the responsible officers of Quantic should go to jail or otherwise straighten this up now!

Hyun - hang up there mate! Hugs hugs~

tar

Germany991 Posts

January 01 2014 10:59 GMT

#245

On January 01 2014 19:54 artosismermaid wrote:
No offense to Hyun, but who would ever trust joining a team of only a 23 year old, where did this 23 year old get all this money from?

That's a weird point you make there: it would be more shocking if he joined the team of a 13-year-old but 23 in the context of eSports isn't unreasonably young. I guess you'll have troubles finding a team run by a 40-year-old suit

Liman

Serbia681 Posts

January 01 2014 11:05 GMT

#246

Douchebag Simon strikes again.
Players really need a syndicate.

Torigon

France32 Posts

January 01 2014 11:08 GMT

#247

Pff...Its very disgraceful. Hyun is a hardworking player and no receive salary AND Simon flew his cash prize. Very bad for esport development :/

GulpyBlinkeyes

United States1449 Posts

January 01 2014 11:19 GMT

#248

Sad to keep seeing this same basic story happen over and over

SoniC_eu

Denmark1008 Posts

January 01 2014 11:24 GMT

#249

Wow...scandalous stuff :-/
Hope Hyun gets his payment and Simon steps up to the plate

FiWiFaKi

Canada9859 Posts

January 01 2014 11:26 GMT

#250

On January 01 2014 19:54 artosismermaid wrote:
No offense to Hyun, but who would ever trust joining a team of only a 23 year old, where did this 23 year old get all this money from?

Inheritance, he does have money. He did put a lot of money into Quantic.

You can't make an argument of "Don't join a team because manager is 23 years old". Lots of managers in esports are young. Hell, Nazgul is only 30. When the SC2 team started he was 27, and has owned teamliquid prior to being 23... And you don't go around saying that Nazgul is untrustworthy.

AFSpeeDy

126 Posts

January 01 2014 11:31 GMT

#251

It's sad that these things still happen...

zyce

United States649 Posts

January 01 2014 11:34 GMT

#252

This is fraud, definitely contact a lawyer and make sure hes held responsible for every penny. Good luck to you HyuN, PM or Skype me if I can help.

MrMercuG

Netherlands2389 Posts

January 01 2014 11:40 GMT

#253

On January 01 2014 19:54 artosismermaid wrote:
No offense to Hyun, but who would ever trust joining a team of only a 23 year old, where did this 23 year old get all this money from?

Pretty sure the owners of both Liquid and EG are young themselves.

NeThZOR

South Africa7387 Posts

January 01 2014 11:45 GMT

#254

eSports organisations are just like businesses, and shady dealings can be run within any type of business. Hyun should file a lawsuit against Simon because he is the rightful owner of the money that he EARNED.

zezamer

Finland5701 Posts

January 01 2014 11:46 GMT

#255

why would you need money to start a team ? you form a team with your buddies, you/your parents pay for your couple first tourney trips, you win, you get sponsors, you recruit more players with giving em sponsor gear or something, you win more, you get more sponsors ?

Clbull

United Kingdom1439 Posts

January 01 2014 11:49 GMT

#256

On January 01 2014 11:53 Gojira621 wrote:
Hyun needs to hire a lawyer immediately. This is straight up theft. This guy can't disappear forever

Can any Canadians technically present the evidence HyuN has given and report SImon to the police? Surely there's a criminal offence behind this...

darkhorz

Denmark11 Posts

January 01 2014 11:49 GMT

#257

Not sure how the legislation works in Canada and the nature of the contract between Hyun and Quantic. Where I come from there is a law that allows any employee to file their company for bankruptcy if salaries are not paid.

This will put the company under a judge's scrutiny and force the company to pay the salaries to dismiss the case - and in the case it can't, have the company foreclose before any more harm is done and assets realized in favor of the employees and other creditors.

Clbull

United Kingdom1439 Posts

January 01 2014 11:50 GMT

#258

On January 01 2014 20:40 MrMercuG wrote:

Show nested quote +

Pretty sure the owners of both Liquid and EG are young themselves.

Alex Garfield is 28 IIRC.

Shikyo

Finland33997 Posts

January 01 2014 11:51 GMT

#259

If Quantic announces bankruptcy, as far as I know the owner won't even need to pay back at all because a company is a seperate legal "person". All the owner would lose is his initial investment. Then again things could be different than in Finland so what do I know?

Ah and in cases like that(where the company actually is in money trouble) generally the bank or something equivalent gets practically everything.

Hiso

France10 Posts

January 01 2014 11:53 GMT

#260

That's fucked up. I hope HyuN won't retire because of that.
Those are behavings that we can't tolerate. I wish there was some kind of organisation or a way to put pressure on the guy so that he gives the money he owe. Such a shame.