EPTHyuN owed $23,000 in back pay and prize money by Quantic -…
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jeri
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aTnClouD
Italy2428 Posts
The problem is that other than bringing the facts to public attention the players have no power to do anything. And these swindling teams don't really give a fuck. | ||
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JacobShock
Denmark2485 Posts
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DwD
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BjoernK
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Sapphire.lux
Romania2620 Posts
I hope you'll find the cunt and make him pay. I'm sorry pros have to go through all this crap. | ||
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artcoder
Germany11 Posts
On January 01 2014 20:56 aTnClouD wrote: Well honestly Alternate owes me a lot of money too which they refuse to pay for no reason and to other players too, and I know many other players haven't been paid by their teams. Esport business is still very shady. The problem is that other than bringing the facts to public attention the players have no power to do anything. And these swindling teams don't really give a fuck. I can understand your and hyuns frustration, but one thing that always astonishes me is that so many gamers don't have good contracts and they DON'T give a fuck about having a good insurance when it comes to work contracts o_0. Man this is a job like any other and the first thing I did when I started working is because at one point or another you will get ripped off by your company. 4 Weeks ago a friend of mine got his contract cancelled for no reason at all. They found some shady arguments and that was it. So,... rip off is not only an esports thing!! It happens everywhere were one guys has to give money to another, because this is what humans do since there is money around... they try to get an easy deal. So: why the heck doesn't have every pro gramer a frickin ensurance that covers this shit and more important: Why do so many pro gamers don't have proper contracts on what gets payed and what doesn't? | ||
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JacobShock
Denmark2485 Posts
On January 01 2014 12:11 NmExZeus wrote: Perhaps the TL community could try to raise a fund for Quantic gamers that have been cheated out of their money by the likes of Simon? Would be great if any major TL personalities decided to lead it A really really nice sentiment, but I am afraid it's only a patch work solution. I feel like players really need a union to protect them. | ||
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BVRHNT3R
United States15 Posts
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belgid
Israel13 Posts
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frexuz
Sweden1 Post
http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/1u5003/donations_for_hyun_saving_hyun_he_may_continue/ | ||
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aTnClouD
Italy2428 Posts
On January 01 2014 21:11 artcoder wrote: I can understand your and hyuns frustration, but one thing that always astonishes me is that so many gamers don't have good contracts and they DON'T give a fuck about having a good insurance when it comes to work contracts o_0. Man this is a job like any other and the first thing I did when I started working is because at one point or another you will get ripped off by your company. 4 Weeks ago a friend of mine got his contract cancelled for no reason at all. They found some shady arguments and that was it. So,... rip off is not only an esports thing!! It happens everywhere were one guys has to give money to another, because this is what humans do since there is money around... they try to get an easy deal. So: why the heck doesn't have every pro gramer a frickin ensurance that covers this shit and more important: Why do so many pro gamers don't have proper contracts on what gets payed and what doesn't? Because you feel lucky to do what you love for a living and teams know you do and if you disagree they will take someone else who signs their conditions. Again, it's a very shady business. | ||
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mouz.Wake
Sweden136 Posts
On January 01 2014 11:58 zul wrote: What does the quantic manager think? Hide for some time and everyone will forget? This will have a legal afterplay, even if it takes months or years to find him. The Quantic manager is probably in chock like HyuN and I doubt the Quantic manager after the reformation was on a payroll either. In any regard, HyuN's manager should not be held accountable for something he didn't commit - he didn't hold the financial agreements here, the owner did. | ||
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Fuddudle
United Kingdom23 Posts
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Dreamer.T
United States3584 Posts
On January 01 2014 21:32 Fuddudle wrote: Its a shame that we see this happen so many times in the past, and it comes down to naming and shaming for people to see the dark side of esports organisations. Unfortunately, it happens nearly everywhere when money is involved. Really comes down to the person, some choose conduct business in a dishonest and shady manner, and some have a code they follow. Comes down to being able to see what kind of person you are doing business with, and that's very hard at times. | ||
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Clbull
United Kingdom1439 Posts
On January 01 2014 20:56 aTnClouD wrote: Well honestly Alternate owes me a lot of money too which they refuse to pay for no reason and to other players too, and I know many other players haven't been paid by their teams. Esport business is still very shady. The problem is that other than bringing the facts to public attention the players have no power to do anything. And these swindling teams don't really give a fuck. I never heard much about this before. Please enlighten us, man. | ||
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NEEDZMOAR
Sweden1277 Posts
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teddyoojo
Germany22369 Posts
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nkr
Sweden5451 Posts
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Aridhol
Germany59 Posts
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