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Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
December 05 2012 10:54 GMT
#241
keep it on the dl, but

ghostblade -> iceborn gauntlet -> spirit visage is the perfect core on Xin right now.
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clickrush
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Switzerland3257 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-05 12:15:42
December 05 2012 12:15 GMT
#242
On December 05 2012 19:54 Mogwai wrote:
keep it on the dl, but

ghostblade -> iceborn gauntlet -> spirit visage is the perfect core on Xin right now.


wouldnt this build flow a bit better?

bruta -> sheen -> mercs -> gauntlet -> visage -> cleaver.

you don't overcap cdr with cleaver instead of ghostblade and you get your defensive items faster with this build because you stay on the allready highly costeffective brutalizer for a longer time.

purely offensive&expensive items like ghostblade/cleaver etc. are very luxury no?

please confirm

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Tooplark
Profile Joined October 2008
United States3977 Posts
December 05 2012 16:15 GMT
#243
On December 05 2012 21:15 clickrush wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2012 19:54 Mogwai wrote:
keep it on the dl, but

ghostblade -> iceborn gauntlet -> spirit visage is the perfect core on Xin right now.


wouldnt this build flow a bit better?

bruta -> sheen -> mercs -> gauntlet -> visage -> cleaver.

you don't overcap cdr with cleaver instead of ghostblade and you get your defensive items faster with this build because you stay on the allready highly costeffective brutalizer for a longer time.

purely offensive&expensive items like ghostblade/cleaver etc. are very luxury no?

please confirm



GB/IG/SV = 15 + 15 + 10 = 40% CDR
Ghostblade also adds a lot more sticking power to Xin than Cleaver does. He's only going to be hitting one person at a time with most of his stuff.

killing things = survivability (FACTS)

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BlasiuS
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States2405 Posts
December 05 2012 16:23 GMT
#244
On December 06 2012 01:15 Tooplark wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2012 21:15 clickrush wrote:
On December 05 2012 19:54 Mogwai wrote:
keep it on the dl, but

ghostblade -> iceborn gauntlet -> spirit visage is the perfect core on Xin right now.


wouldnt this build flow a bit better?

bruta -> sheen -> mercs -> gauntlet -> visage -> cleaver.

you don't overcap cdr with cleaver instead of ghostblade and you get your defensive items faster with this build because you stay on the allready highly costeffective brutalizer for a longer time.

purely offensive&expensive items like ghostblade/cleaver etc. are very luxury no?

please confirm



GB/IG/SV = 15 + 15 + 10 = 40% CDR
Ghostblade also adds a lot more sticking power to Xin than Cleaver does. He's only going to be hitting one person at a time with most of his stuff.

killing things = survivability (FACTS)



you also get damage, cc, 60 armor, and 50 MR. This seems like the most solid 3 items Xin can get. Do you go straight for completed items or piece it out?
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Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
December 05 2012 21:16 GMT
#245
On December 05 2012 21:15 clickrush wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2012 19:54 Mogwai wrote:
keep it on the dl, but

ghostblade -> iceborn gauntlet -> spirit visage is the perfect core on Xin right now.


wouldnt this build flow a bit better?

bruta -> sheen -> mercs -> gauntlet -> visage -> cleaver.

you don't overcap cdr with cleaver instead of ghostblade and you get your defensive items faster with this build because you stay on the allready highly costeffective brutalizer for a longer time.

purely offensive&expensive items like ghostblade/cleaver etc. are very luxury no?

please confirm


you don't get overlap as tooplark pointed out.

also, bruta -> ghostblade >>>>>>>>>>> bruta -> sheen. ghostblade is insanely good on Xin and sheen proc vs. ghostblade active isn't even a competition in terms of early offensive output, especially with ghostblade's new CD.

flow can be altered as the game dictates, but I'd generally say the most you should do is add in chain/negatron and boots 2 to counter your lane opponent before getting back on the order I'm saying.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Complete
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1864 Posts
December 05 2012 22:45 GMT
#246
what's the new ghostblade cooldown change? It looks the same to me.
Shelke14
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada6655 Posts
December 05 2012 22:49 GMT
#247
I'm guessing Boots 3 into bruta? How exactly do you start the build? Any dorans or any other life steal to start?
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-05 22:57:21
December 05 2012 22:55 GMT
#248
On December 06 2012 07:49 Shelke14 wrote:
I'm guessing Boots 3 into bruta? How exactly do you start the build? Any dorans or any other life steal to start?

whatever you need for laning. I usually start boots + 3, but dblade/dshield have their places and you can follow up boots with doran's items if you need earlier power spikes than bruta. dshield with 21 defensive is really great vs. stuff like nid/teemo that attack you a ton for early lane pressure.

Ghostblade CD went from 60 seconds to 45 and it now always gives you 6 seconds of the buff which is very useful in practice for when you're getting kited.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
De4ngus
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6533 Posts
December 05 2012 23:07 GMT
#249
my team got raped by a rageblade xin. its healed for soo much....
GANDHISAUCE
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
December 06 2012 00:07 GMT
#250
Is the passive (unique t_t) of dshield applied before or after the armor reduction? If the masteries are any indication I'd say it's after, but just wanna make sure.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Brambled
Profile Joined July 2010
United States750 Posts
December 06 2012 00:30 GMT
#251
What masteries you guys using? 9/21/0 right now but haven't tested it much.
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
December 06 2012 00:46 GMT
#252
21/9/0 or 9/21/0 depending on matchup.

dshield passive is applied pre-reduction iirc.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Dark_Chill
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada3353 Posts
December 06 2012 02:44 GMT
#253
What are you guys thinking for runes/masteries on jungle xin? I like the champ but suck at top lane, but I have no idea how to build him in the jungle
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101toss
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
3232 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-06 02:51:16
December 06 2012 02:50 GMT
#254
What about zephyr?

also mogwai i have taken over the nunu thread

edit: also new sv is broken and has 15% cdr
Math doesn't kill champions and neither do wards
Shelke14
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada6655 Posts
December 06 2012 04:19 GMT
#255
Man, this fucking build Mog......... Is wrecking kids top so hard.
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
December 07 2012 22:37 GMT
#256
On December 06 2012 11:50 101toss wrote:
What about zephyr?

also mogwai i have taken over the nunu thread

edit: also new sv is broken and has 15% cdr

...it's supposed to give 15% cdr. ghostblade's the one with 10% cdr.

anywho, sub out iceborn gauntlet for cleaver. it's league of true damage right now and so I actually feel better with the HP from cleaver over the armor from gauntlet sadly and cleaver is cheaper and trucks people harder.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
clickrush
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Switzerland3257 Posts
December 07 2012 23:13 GMT
#257
sv + gb + gauntlet îs 45% cdr not 40.
sv + cleaver + gauntlet is 40% cdr. just to make that clear. sv 15% cdr
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Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
December 07 2012 23:23 GMT
#258
All you need are 3 Cleavers and a LW. Huehuehue.
God Bless
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
December 07 2012 23:29 GMT
#259
On December 08 2012 08:13 clickrush wrote:
sv + gb + gauntlet îs 45% cdr not 40.
sv + cleaver + gauntlet is 40% cdr. just to make that clear. sv 15% cdr

no, sv = 15, gauntlet = 15, gb = 10, add em all up, you get 40

ghostblade is currently 10% cdr.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
clickrush
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Switzerland3257 Posts
December 07 2012 23:48 GMT
#260
oh lol sry I didnt notice
oGsMC: Zealot defense, Stalker attack, Sentry forcefieldu forcefieldu, Marauder die die
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