EPTOn May 26 2013 03:57 grush57 wrote:
Sigh I guess it's too late, I'm not totally sure Dandel is scum but whatever
Sigh I guess it's too late, I'm not totally sure Dandel is scum but whatever
he claimed SK LMAO
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DarthPunk
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Stutters695
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On May 26 2013 03:07 goodkarma wrote: Perhaps I should rephrase this: Did you actually conjure up so many excuses? You had some in prior games for sure, but they're rather prevalent this game. I mean I've seen a rather large number of remarks like this one this game, and it stood out to me as a curious tendancy. It does look like there's some of this in prior games, but they're like everywhere in this one.: I really don't care if you're off drinking somewhere. What's relevant is that when you're here you are actively scumhunting, and all I've really seen is you have an interest in lynching me... Would you mind laying out what you envision to be the scumteam? I mean clearly it's more than one guy. There's at least three scum, yet I seem to be the only guy you're concerned about... And somehow I'm "sure scum," in which case one would think you'd be devoting your scumhunting energies finding the remaining scum. Top one: wether or not I'm scum, my answer would be the same. I can give you pics though :p. As much fun as it would be to play mafia all the time real life comes first. My current scum team would be you,JJD and either Marv or Grush. I'm just not comfortable with his play right now and Grush breaking star senses seems bad. That's pending a re-read on the others but I don't see DP as scum, Vayne is very doubtful and the others I need to really re-read to piece this together, but those are my main targets. I'm starting to favor a JJD lynch over you, but I'll have all of that ready before the nk in case I die. | ||
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WaveofShadow
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Stutters695
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On May 26 2013 03:22 DarthPunk wrote: GK is town marv. Scum team is S0lstice/JJD/stutters + 1 maybe. Agree with 1, maybe s0l. You're way off on me and why do you suspect that? | ||
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goodkarma
United States1067 Posts
Solstice doesn't look that great as far as sheeping Yamato's reads then just sitting on them. I may be giving him too little credit, as part of my assessment of him was that if he were scum, having never played it before he'd reveal it more obviously than here. I mean he does interject his own thoughts on issues, especially related to me as I recall. But that he can just say "what Yamato said," and then not come in and update his reads at all for an entire cycle is pretty unsettling. I said slight town in my own list post, but maybe null is better. I've always been a bit of a sucker for pro-town players, but pro-town playstyle doesn't mean he isn't scum. And as for Marv, I'll trust DP that he is town. Between what he and Marv have had to say about his recent lack of posting/concern, I would say it's reasonable that he is town. Which means that it's between Stutters/VA/JJD/Solstice for the scumteam. | ||
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goodkarma
United States1067 Posts
On May 26 2013 04:10 Stutters695 wrote: Top one: wether or not I'm scum, my answer would be the same. I can give you pics though :p. As much fun as it would be to play mafia all the time real life comes first. My current scum team would be you,JJD and either Marv or Grush. I'm just not comfortable with his play right now and Grush breaking star senses seems bad. That's pending a re-read on the others but I don't see DP as scum, Vayne is very doubtful and the others I need to really re-read to piece this together, but those are my main targets. I'm starting to favor a JJD lynch over you, but I'll have all of that ready before the nk in case I die. Could you explain why you see VA as being doubtful? | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
On May 26 2013 04:18 goodkarma wrote: @Wave: Solstice doesn't look that great as far as sheeping Yamato's reads then just sitting on them. I may be giving him too little credit, as part of my assessment of him was that if he were scum, having never played it before he'd reveal it more obviously than here. I mean he does interject his own thoughts on issues, especially related to me as I recall. But that he can just say "what Yamato said," and then not come in and update his reads at all for an entire cycle is pretty unsettling. I said slight town in my own list post, but maybe null is better. I've always been a bit of a sucker for pro-town players, but pro-town playstyle doesn't mean he isn't scum. And as for Marv, I'll trust DP that he is town. Between what he and Marv have had to say about his recent lack of posting/concern, I would say it's reasonable that he is town. Which means that it's between Stutters/VA/JJD/Solstice for the scumteam. It's not just the fact that he's simply sheeping and sitting on them. He hasn't done what he said he was going to set out to do and he's had like 48h to do it. Imo it is unacceptable to sit back and not provide anything that anyone can use to read you for an entire day; he simply goes on and on about analyzing the state of scum v town v SK over and over. That is not scumhunting and honestly most of the town is guilty of this today and don't seem to care. The difference between him and others is at least other people have attempted to make SOME sort of a read since the last NKs. | ||
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WaveofShadow
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(DontFear)ThePoster
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Dandel Ion (10): marvellosity, WaveofShadow, s0Lstice, VayneAuthority, goodkarma, Stutters695, Dandel Ion, DarthPunk, JarJarDrinks, grush57 Not Voting (0): Dandel Ion is set to be lynched. Deadline is in 50 minutes. | ||
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Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
Sooooooooo sorry. I meant to say I know who the SK is. Man, those little details. They always tend to slip your mind :3 :3 :3 :3 have fun this night :3 | ||
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(DontFear)ThePoster
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Night 3 Even a whore who has gone to the bad Won't be had by a rat! Dandel Ion, playing the role of Bamatabois, was lynched. + Show Spoiler [Role PM] + By Christ you'll pay for what you have done I guarantee, I'll make you suffer You are Bamatabois, a simple, sexually frustrated idler who harasses prostitutes. Fantine retaliated by striking you across the face. How dare she! You don't like Fantine so by extension you are also an enemy of Cosette, Jean Valijean, Marius, the Friends of the ABC, and the entirety of the rebel organization. You are the mafia goon. You have no special powers, but your hatred of the rebels runs as deep as anyone. You win with the mafia when nothing can prevent the mafia from eradicating the town. It is now Night 3. Please get in all night actions to (DontFear)ThePoster! Night 3 ends in 24 hours at 21:00 GMT (+00:00)! | ||
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s0Lstice
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VayneAuthority
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On May 26 2013 03:40 goodkarma wrote: What exactly is this remark supposed to mean? I get that you hate martyrs, I really do. You've remarked on it a few times now, but my understanding is that we're hunting for scum. And this remark seems to imply that you like my post enough that you'd consider me not being lynchworthy, if only I'd make more posts like it? It's a little hard for me to wrap my head around this... So your verdict is I'm scum, but your verdict is that post makes me look town? Perhaps I'm overcomplicating your post here, but it just doesn't feel like you're fully invested in pushing my mislynch with remarks like this one. Further, while perhaps "martyring" is a pet peave of yours, invalidating yourself as useless / "a joke" is something that I look at as a scum trait. What purpose does this remark about you being perceived as a joke have to do with trying to win this game? Absolutely none... What it leaves me with is the feeling that you are trying to invaldate your own play, and as I just said that's a scum trait... Also, apparently WoS is scum in your eyes because he "shit up the thread the moment people started unvoting BH?" From what I read, that looks to be BH's logic. Have you looked at anything he's done past that point, and has that done anything for your read? While we're at it, can you run through exactly how Solstice is scum other than this "my gut tells me so" thing? You're like "please reference my filter" in multiple places... When I look through what I pull up is this: And then some really really old stuff from day one. So WoS asked you, and I will too: could you please elaborate on this guy? What also concerns me is that you seem to be taking stances on people as scumreads, and then just sitting on it. Your reads don't look like they evolve much at all as the game progresses, and more stuff is posted... Martyring is one of the biggest scumtraits of all time, cant tell if srs. People use it all the time to ATE to avoid being lynched like you have been all game. You never addressed my concern for why you are biasing me when comparing to other players in terms of meta. My verdict is your scum and gave up early, now you're trying to put a facade of helping out now that people aren't on your case as much. I will be happy to place my vote on you tomorrow unless someone willing claims they are killing people again. You can see the truth as a scum trait if you wish, probably about 60% of my posts went ignored this game. As for WoS I do feel like he's faking a lot of his emotion behind his play, he seems very erratic this game. Whereas in carnival cruise I could see him legitimately getting upset because he was so confused, he seems to be in control this game but giving the illusion that he has no control. Its a minor difference that I have been picking up on in his play this game. Its not fully fleshed out yet but if we were at 3 way lylo for example, I would probably be voting him. There's not much to elaborate on with s0lstice, Its simply that; a gut read with some minor quirks in his play early. I havent seen anything particularly scummy past that so there's the chance that I was -GASP- wrong. | ||
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s0Lstice
United States1833 Posts
I did put in work on the filters like I promised, but all I came out of it with was town reads that I felt good about. I wasn't sure that was even worth sharing, given our situation. It's been pretty difficult to get motivated knowing that our chances for winning are on a wing and a prayer with the lucky JK save. I've looked some more though, and I do have something. I feel good about WoS and Stutters being town. These two have shown consistent interest in still trying to solve the game, even with our chances being bleak. With that flip, I really think DP and Marv are scum. I've about had it with the 'I'm town because X said so' argument. Marv and DP have been guilty of this repeatedly. Think of it like this..what is the point of even saying that? We are at a point where everyone needs to be re-evaluating town reads, because nobody is having an easy time finding a place for the scum team to fit on their spreadsheets. Everyone who is town at this should no longer be satisfied with 'Marv is town because iamp and BH said so,' or Marv saying 'I'm town, it's so obvious.' It's not good enough....we are well past the time of free passes. If you want to convince somebody that somebody else, or you, is town, reasoning needs to be provided. These two don't seem to care to provide any. I think GK is scum, or potentially the SK. He started the game with cases on grush and stutters (lurkers at that point), a terrible meta case on JJ, and most of the stuff he has taken a stance on (especially the most recent stuff) he has folded on like origami. He's pushed nothing, and really comes off like even he doesn't believe what he is saying. | ||
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