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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
May 26 2013 03:16 GMT
#2581
Solstice at this point I'm pretty sure I was wrong about you in my analysis of the activity during the day, although I'd still like to know why you are so focused on numbers analysis rather than reading and seemed to be only doing that during the day.

Do you also still think DP and marv are both scum?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
May 26 2013 03:17 GMT
#2582
On May 26 2013 12:04 s0Lstice wrote:
On my phone atm.

Your filter looks fine DP, but your reads and mine right now are so opposite that I have to wonder. Like I said earlier, I'm having to find scum from a bunch of former town reads.

I'm frustrated because if there 4 scum like we think (probably are, dandels play makes no sense otherwise), then town has effectively already lost this game.

I really do think marv is scum. If anyone, he should have been the voice of reason during the whole bh thing. He even said in the mason qt that there was a perfectly townie reason for the slip, and that was that BH literally didn't give a shit about the game when it happened....enough that he didn't know how many people were in the game. I made the mistake of assuming that he would at least know its a 16 player game he was in.

Let me ask you something else. Was it obvious to you that iamp was a town mason? On night 1, iamp dies and you are roleblocked dp. Is it more likely that the scum team saw iamps claim and switched targets (plus the roleblock) in the 7 minutes they had, or that they knew the entire time because marv is scum.

After the slip, the first thing marv did in thread was nitpick a tiny semantics issue in something I posted. He didn't even care to read what I said right, despite saying to iamp in mason qt that everyone should keep an eye on me. Is this town marv to you? BH scumslips, kind of a big deal, and he puts it aside to talk about something inconsequential. He doesn't even comment definitively on the slip until you drag it out of him dp.

There's been other times too where he's had uncharacteristic reading comprehension errors. It just doesn't seem like town marv to me.


ok so my filter looks fine and you explain why marv is scum to you. and yet you lumped me in with him for saying I was town because others said so. Even though I only said that once in my whole 13 page filter. Something doesn't add up about your scum read of me. I am not talking about marv now. I am talking about you saying you really think I am scum.

Explain yourself.

And no. Our reads not being the same anymore is not a legitimate reason for you to "really think DP is scum"
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
s0Lstice
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1832 Posts
May 26 2013 03:19 GMT
#2583
We have been a pretty derpy town. I think scum know who the SK is. They will probably try to lynch him tomorrow.
ATOBTTR
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
May 26 2013 03:22 GMT
#2584
On May 26 2013 12:19 s0Lstice wrote:
We have been a pretty derpy town. I think scum know who the SK is. They will probably try to lynch him tomorrow.


Like wtf is this. You have all these assertions about what scum think and what their plans are but you provide absolutely no analysis to back them. Like this is just useless shit you are talking I hope you realise.

Anyway the NA vs KR match is on soon so I will be gone when that starts.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
May 26 2013 03:24 GMT
#2585
On May 26 2013 12:19 s0Lstice wrote:
We have been a pretty derpy town. I think scum know who the SK is. They will probably try to lynch him tomorrow.

Talk to DP first imo.
Then when you're done I'd like to know, if this is true, how should we be attempting to play tomorrow? There is a lot of WIFOM involved with the answer to this question you've insinuated with your statement.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
May 26 2013 03:24 GMT
#2586
On May 26 2013 12:22 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2013 12:19 s0Lstice wrote:
We have been a pretty derpy town. I think scum know who the SK is. They will probably try to lynch him tomorrow.


Like wtf is this. You have all these assertions about what scum think and what their plans are but you provide absolutely no analysis to back them. Like this is just useless shit you are talking I hope you realise.

Anyway the NA vs KR match is on soon so I will be gone when that starts.

Oh shits me too. Watched NA v EU w/yamato yesterday.
^-^
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
May 26 2013 03:26 GMT
#2587
On May 26 2013 12:24 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2013 12:22 DarthPunk wrote:
On May 26 2013 12:19 s0Lstice wrote:
We have been a pretty derpy town. I think scum know who the SK is. They will probably try to lynch him tomorrow.


Like wtf is this. You have all these assertions about what scum think and what their plans are but you provide absolutely no analysis to back them. Like this is just useless shit you are talking I hope you realise.

Anyway the NA vs KR match is on soon so I will be gone when that starts.

Oh shits me too. Watched NA v EU w/yamato yesterday.
^-^


Haha. I've been watching with Jacobstrangelove on skype. That NA EU game I went ape shit man.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
May 26 2013 03:27 GMT
#2588
JSL played mafia too at one point. Not sure if that was before your time or not.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
s0Lstice
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1832 Posts
May 26 2013 03:27 GMT
#2589
The numbers tell us if we still have a chance. I want to understand them.

We have little hope. I called you scum DP because I'm frustrated. The only thing that has stopped me from writing a case on marv is bh's dying words and you saying he is town over and over.

If that's not just posturing and you really think that then its whatever I guess. I retract it. Your filter really is fine.

ATOBTTR
JarJarDrinks
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1302 Posts
May 26 2013 03:32 GMT
#2590
I'm not really sure what Solstice is trying to say w/ his numbers cause it makes no sense to me. The fact that DL was scum makes Marv look damn good IMO. Why in the world would he fight so hard to keep DL in the noose if he was scum?

Solstice, are you trying to say that scum would actually prefer to get one of their own lynched instead of the SK? That's insane.
s0Lstice
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1832 Posts
May 26 2013 03:32 GMT
#2591
On May 26 2013 12:22 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2013 12:19 s0Lstice wrote:
We have been a pretty derpy town. I think scum know who the SK is. They will probably try to lynch him tomorrow.


Like wtf is this. You have all these assertions about what scum think and what their plans are but you provide absolutely no analysis to back them. Like this is just useless shit you are talking I hope you realise.

Anyway the NA vs KR match is on soon so I will be gone when that starts.


Connect the dots yourself plox. If they can lynch him tomorrow then they don't have to shoot through his bulletproof vest. Scum also know which shot was theirs for sure at night, so they get a little leg up in the analysis, above the boost they already have from already knowing every other anti town person in the thread.
ATOBTTR
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
May 26 2013 03:33 GMT
#2592
On May 26 2013 12:32 JarJarDrinks wrote:
I'm not really sure what Solstice is trying to say w/ his numbers cause it makes no sense to me. The fact that DL was scum makes Marv look damn good IMO. Why in the world would he fight so hard to keep DL in the noose if he was scum?

Solstice, are you trying to say that scum would actually prefer to get one of their own lynched instead of the SK? That's insane.

Are you fucking kidding me right now JJD?
He didn't have to do shit to keep DI in the noose. You think it was because of marv that the vote to lynch him was unanimous?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
May 26 2013 03:47 GMT
#2593
DP I'm not so sure I can watch this game any more...
>.<
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
JarJarDrinks
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1302 Posts
May 26 2013 03:48 GMT
#2594
On May 26 2013 12:33 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2013 12:32 JarJarDrinks wrote:
I'm not really sure what Solstice is trying to say w/ his numbers cause it makes no sense to me. The fact that DL was scum makes Marv look damn good IMO. Why in the world would he fight so hard to keep DL in the noose if he was scum?

Solstice, are you trying to say that scum would actually prefer to get one of their own lynched instead of the SK? That's insane.

Are you fucking kidding me right now JJD?
He didn't have to do shit to keep DI in the noose. You think it was because of marv that the vote to lynch him was unanimous?
Marv pointed out all the math. Like a bunch of us were discussing whether or not it would have been a better play to try and lynch scum instead of DL. Marv was the one who explained exactly why that was a worse play.
s0Lstice
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1832 Posts
May 26 2013 03:52 GMT
#2595
On May 26 2013 12:48 JarJarDrinks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2013 12:33 WaveofShadow wrote:
On May 26 2013 12:32 JarJarDrinks wrote:
I'm not really sure what Solstice is trying to say w/ his numbers cause it makes no sense to me. The fact that DL was scum makes Marv look damn good IMO. Why in the world would he fight so hard to keep DL in the noose if he was scum?

Solstice, are you trying to say that scum would actually prefer to get one of their own lynched instead of the SK? That's insane.

Are you fucking kidding me right now JJD?
He didn't have to do shit to keep DI in the noose. You think it was because of marv that the vote to lynch him was unanimous?
Marv pointed out all the math. Like a bunch of us were discussing whether or not it would have been a better play to try and lynch scum instead of DL. Marv was the one who explained exactly why that was a worse play.


...and he would have done the same thing as scum, because he knew Dandel was lying and it was a bad lynch for town.
ATOBTTR
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
May 26 2013 04:10 GMT
#2596
On May 26 2013 12:47 WaveofShadow wrote:
DP I'm not so sure I can watch this game any more...
>.<

D:
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
(DontFear)ThePoster
Profile Joined December 2012
Guernsey584 Posts
May 26 2013 13:09 GMT
#2597
Night 3 ends in ~ 8 hours. Please remember to submit all night Actions to (DontFear)ThePoster!
Come on townie. Townie take my hand .We'll be able to scumhunt. Townie I'm your scum
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 26 2013 14:40 GMT
#2598
I'm back! Seems I missed some rather interesting developments o.o Gonna read up on the thread.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 26 2013 14:47 GMT
#2599
On May 26 2013 12:11 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2013 12:04 s0Lstice wrote:
On my phone atm.

Your filter looks fine DP, but your reads and mine right now are so opposite that I have to wonder. Like I said earlier, I'm having to find scum from a bunch of former town reads.

I'm frustrated because if there 4 scum like we think (probably are, dandels play makes no sense otherwise), then town has effectively already lost this game.

I really do think marv is scum. If anyone, he should have been the voice of reason during the whole bh thing. He even said in the mason qt that there was a perfectly townie reason for the slip, and that was that BH literally didn't give a shit about the game when it happened....enough that he didn't know how many people were in the game. I made the mistake of assuming that he would at least know its a 16 player game he was in.

Let me ask you something else. Was it obvious to you that iamp was a town mason? On night 1, iamp dies and you are roleblocked dp. Is it more likely that the scum team saw iamps claim and switched targets (plus the roleblock) in the 7 minutes they had, or that they knew the entire time because marv is scum.

After the slip, the first thing marv did in thread was nitpick a tiny semantics issue in something I posted. He didn't even care to read what I said right, despite saying to iamp in mason qt that everyone should keep an eye on me. Is this town marv to you? BH scumslips, kind of a big deal, and he puts it aside to talk about something inconsequential. He doesn't even comment definitively on the slip until you drag it out of him dp.

There's been other times too where he's had uncharacteristic reading comprehension errors. It just doesn't seem like town marv to me.


This. I had actually come up with this point myself because if we take that factor alone, it honestly seems more likely that scum already knew about the mason than picked him up with like 5 min to go until deadline.
Again, I'm not convinced that marv is scum atm, but that's a pretty big point against him right now. I was willing to throw all reasonable doubt aside at that point in the game because like you said, DP, he really did appear to be a shining example of all that town stands for, but marv's seeming lack of caring about the game recently has forced me to think about these things.

He is by no means my primary scumread atm, that honour still goes to JJD right now, but I would very much like for him to come back and show us why he isn't scum.


This is absolute nonsense. It's quite the opposite. Go read the QT with iamp, halfway through the day he asked me if he should out himself as mason to the thread to see what reactions he got, and I told him not to. It would rather be in my interest as mafia to have iamp out himself in the middle of the night, and he god-damn offered to do it. Your thinking here is *way* off.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 26 2013 14:53 GMT
#2600
Now this SK thing is weird. Does/did/do mafia actually have 2 kp and there isn't an SK?

Given the SK actually ISN'T Dandel, the shot(s) last night make zero sense. Why wasn't the SK shooting for mafia? (i.e Dandel!)
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
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