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After reading and thinking, wanted to post my vote as quickly as possible.
The reason I'm switching my vote off beneather is that he posted an analysis of me (quoted below) that makes me think he is town. Also, if he flips red, it will obviously mean nothing. So why would he bother writing it at all? Finally, they did nothing scummy to earn my vote in the first place, the problem was, they did nothing at all. Now that beneather has posted, it's time to move on.
The reason I'm switching to Gmarshal/Foolishness/TheMango (sorry about forgetting you in my vote) is because I'm following my senior's analysis on this one, and that's the only way to save beneather I believe.
RoL, please let my vote count or extend day or something. The inactivity is making this hard 
On January 05 2011 11:55 Beneather wrote:There is really nothing I could do about being lynched. Since the people that already voted hasn't been here to change their decision. There's really no information on who to vote for since there hasn't been much activity in this game. Also aidnai is supporting different people then all of a sudden against them very confusing. Show nested quote +On January 05 2011 10:02 aidnai wrote:
I agree with you ace. Wanna lynch Nemesis? Show nested quote +On January 05 2011 10:04 aidnai wrote:
Although we should probably note that your team is currently 'pushing his wagon' lol. These post show that he agrees with what Ace is saying and just spamming away 1 line post etc. Show nested quote +On January 05 2011 10:15 aidnai wrote:
Yeah, the last shitty analysis I saw from LSB was in HP mafia, directed at me. He was scum that time...but he wanted to get lynched as I recall, so...hmm.
Even though LSB is pulling at straws with that 'analysis', I don't want to lynch him.
1) he's so pro-town he sucks at being scum.
2) if we kill him activity will grind to a halt and the game will end with less than 20 pages. Here he is protecting Ace from LSB's attack on Ace saying that he's too pro-town that he sucks at being a mafia. So basically he's saying that LSB is scum. But don't kill him because that would make less activity. This doesn't make sense because aren't we looking to lynch mafia. If we get a mafia then we're one step closer to win the game. If we get a mafia on day 1 we'll get more activity and so on. I'm not saying LSB is a mafia I'm just saying what aidnai is saying completely is going left to right. Show nested quote +On January 05 2011 10:30 aidnai wrote:On January 05 2011 02:31 Ace wrote:
Yes it's still killing a townie but it gets you closer to your win condition. Doing it later in the game has major consequences but it's Day 1 and I don't see people trying to really do much.
Alas I can't vote. Oh well. Since you're around Ace, I do want to hear more about this. How does lynching bad townies get us closer to our win condition? It's just one less townie for the mafia to kill, as far as I'm concerned. Alright this post confuses me as lynching a bad town really confuses a town if he's a scum or if he's just a bad town. That's what we have to choose between to find scum. But aidnai is just saying that it is 1 less town that the mafia kills but that gets the closer to their own objective of out numbering the town. I believe the more town we have from not lynching them in Days is better for it will take longer for the Mafia to kill the town. It will also give the town more time to find these mafias. Yes lynching an inactive is good for the beginning but wouldn't it be better to lynch someone that is acting scummy. Near the end the DT's should have role checked the inactives to see if their scum. I think that's a better way of doing it because there is not other way of finding if their scum or towny since they're inactive.
My comments on this to beneather:
First, I was around this afternoon, so if you had posted earlier, i could have changed my vote earlier. Like you, I was forced to post without input from my senior. Unlike you, I was actively pushing and trying to generate some discussion. I'm not flipflopping around, either. I think Nemesis' vote was fishy to say the least, and even though I don't trust LSB or Ace per se, I don't think they are scum either.
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On January 05 2011 12:09 Beneather wrote:
Oh yeah forgot to vote
##Vote: Aidnai
Beneather, aidnai is on my team. You are voting for him because he has been vocal against several teams. His intention was to apply pressure and draw out inactive players.
At the moment, we're working to try and save you. I know that the original voting deadline has passed but just in case we get an extension, switch it to someone who might be Mafia.
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Hey, I am really sorry. I was expecting to get back before 10 from the gym/dinner but it took a lot longer then expected. I will count votes only up until 10. Unless you guys feel the day should be extended. If you guys would like the Day extended 24 hours, I will allow it. Need a 75% majority on the poll. Votes up until 10 will count, and I will post the day post at 12 if the day is not voted for extension.
Poll: Extend the day?Yes. (10) 71% No. (4) 29% 14 total votes Your vote: Extend the day? (Vote): Yes.
(Vote): No.
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On January 05 2011 12:06 LSB wrote:
Kingjames. So are you fingering Subversion?
Well, day is over
To be honest, I think Kavdragon is Red and, by association, you.
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On January 05 2011 12:36 kingjames01 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 05 2011 12:09 Beneather wrote:
Oh yeah forgot to vote
##Vote: Aidnai Beneather, aidnai is on my team. You are voting for him because he has been vocal against several teams. His intention was to apply pressure and draw out inactive players. At the moment, we're working to try and save you. I know that the original voting deadline has passed but just in case we get an extension, switch it to someone who might be Mafia.
Alright, I understand. Now Sorry Aidnai.
##Unvote
##Vote: Flamewheel/Oroglove
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On January 05 2011 12:41 kingjames01 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 05 2011 12:06 LSB wrote:
Kingjames. So are you fingering Subversion?
Well, day is over To be honest, I think Kavdragon is Red and, by association, you.
Cool! let's get people talking about this. KJ, what do you think is scummy about me? Anybody else have some opinions to weigh in? Please, by all means discuss me. Even if it ends in me being lynched, it'll hopefully generate alot of discussion. (Though I do think that LSB is a valuable asset to the town, and I'd hate to see him go with me.)
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Are Seniors allowed to vote in the day extension poll?
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Everyone can vote who is in the game.
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FREEAGLELAND26780 Posts
Voted. I do need orgolove in the game to play though, since I'm working on other stuff for TL right now. In his defense, I'd say he is busy. He hasn't even posted in my game since the last day. Can't really speak for any meta since I don't think that matters, but voting him is just a silly idea.
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On January 05 2011 12:41 kingjames01 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 05 2011 12:06 LSB wrote:
Kingjames. So are you fingering Subversion?
Well, day is over To be honest, I think Kavdragon is Red and, by association, you.
That still doesn't awnser the question.
Your comments on Beneather are made assuming that Subversion should be distrusted.
Can you explain why?
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Longer days are better for town, no? So every townie should be voting for a longer day. There are three votes for no extension. This would imply that all but one mafia are indeed actively checking the forum. I realize that while the mafia may be checking the forum, that's no guarantee that they are actually posting. The one vote missing is interesting however. BC, Chezinu, chaoser, and Incognito are the names that stick out to me as being people who might not be on at this time, and might not vote against. Anyone else there's anything to analyze here?
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On January 05 2011 13:12 flamewheel wrote:
Voted. I do need orgolove in the game to play though, since I'm working on other stuff for TL right now. In his defense, I'd say he is busy. He hasn't even posted in my game since the last day. Can't really speak for any meta since I don't think that matters, but voting him is just a silly idea.
Wait, so just keeping track of the tallies every few minutes, this means that you voted against the time extension? Why would you vote to give us less time?
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Current Votes:
Team 9: Flamewheel/Orgolove - 1
Meapak_Ziphh
Nemesis
Team 2: TheMango/Gmarshal/Foolishness - 0
Nemesis
Team 3: Beneather/BloodyC0bbler - 3.5
Gmarshal (.5)
Deconduo
Aidnai
Subversion
Vote team 5: Meapak_Ziphh/Ace - 1
Kavdragon
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Final vote tally, team 3 to be lynched. Town cannot get the required +6 votes to hit a 75% majority in the next 20 minutes.
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Night 1
As half the town sit at home drunkenly flipping through the television channels, the other half of the town halfheartedly went knocking at Beneather and BloodyC0bblers door. As Beneather answered the door he looked a little panicked, and cried to the mob "Bloodyc0bbler is unconscious and not responding to my PM's!" A man in the mob snorted with laughter and shot back the wittiest thing he could think of "The two of you are about to have something in common then." Beneather kicked and screamed as they dragged him and BloodyC0bblers lifeless body to the center of town where they were hung on display for all to see. BloodyC0bbler didn't break his composure once, but Beneather twitched and moaned a couple of times before going limp.
Team 3: Beneather/BloodyC0bbler the Townie had died.
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FREEAGLELAND26780 Posts
On January 05 2011 13:21 Kavdragon wrote:Show nested quote +On January 05 2011 13:12 flamewheel wrote:
Voted. I do need orgolove in the game to play though, since I'm working on other stuff for TL right now. In his defense, I'd say he is busy. He hasn't even posted in my game since the last day. Can't really speak for any meta since I don't think that matters, but voting him is just a silly idea. Wait, so just keeping track of the tallies every few minutes, this means that you voted against the time extension? Why would you vote to give us less time?
Because, frankly, I'd rather not have my team lynched when orgolove isn't going to be around to offer any defense. orgolove hasn't been around in my game for more than a day, and he hasn't show any sign of being around then. Given as I don't want to play this game, the information gotten from this lynch is more important than having to present a useless defense on day 1.
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Night phase has started, everyone who has night actions please send them in. Night ends 10PM EST tomorrow (12:00 KST).
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Vatican City State1650 Posts
I apologize - my schedule is really off right now. I promise I'll be here more often.
Gmarshal (.5)
Deconduo
Aidnai
Subversion
Huh - wait a minute - town had nothing to go on. Why did you guys vote?
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Vatican City State1650 Posts
I mean, what made you vote for Beneather?
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On January 05 2011 23:02 orgolove wrote:
I mean, what made you vote for Beneather?
Most people gave reasons when voting. For myself, it was because BC hadn't posted at all and Beneather had 2 spam posts. Its unfortunate that it turned out like it did, but we are better off to have inactive towns out of the game early.
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United States1966 Posts
On January 05 2011 23:02 orgolove wrote:
I mean, what made you vote for Beneather?
I think it was the whole 'vote for the inactives' strategy that LSB brought up, since there wasn't much else to go by. (aka the same strategy we are currently using to poor effect in the other mafia game). I would have voted along with my team mate Gmarshal, but I was busy yesterday and missed the vote t.t.
Not sure how different it is, but in the games I play in real life, if we dont have a clear suspect, we usually pass on voting, since in the beginning of the game the chances of voting off a town sided role is much higher. So my question is, is voting off the inactives early a more viable strategy in this type of game, or is the strategy flawed?
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