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I posted in here a while ago but as the suggestion and my research I waited till the new chips were out to make my decision as I wasnt desperate.
What is your budget?
No budget to speak of, i'm looking for reasonably high end but also value for money.
What is your resolution?
1680x1050 and 1280x1024 for second monitor
What are you using it for?
Gaming, Photoshop/Illustrator, video recording/editing, streaming
What is your upgrade cycle?
Normally about 3 years
When do you plan on building it?
ASAP - i waited till the ivy release to make the decisions so now i want to build it.
Do you plan on overclocking?
I have never overclocked before but I want to this time.
Do you need an Operating System?
Nope i have win 7 x64
Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
I dont really know the benefits of this rather than going single new cards.
Where are you buying your parts from?
Im in the UK i've only really used novatech before but i dont mind using any reputable site.
Right now I plan to carry over my 2x dvd/rw drives & bluetooth card reader. Also if possible re use my reasonably new PSU which is a Corsair CX600 bought about this time last year. Also i'd like to carry on using my EVGA Superclocked GTX460 if possible as I'd rather not shell out for a new card as its only a year old but if its necessary I can do, otherwise i'd be looking at doing that aprox this time next year if it is necessary then. I really want to be able to play most games ie GW2 on max or near max settings and record or stream.
I was thinking i'll probably carry over my HDD but buy an SSD for OS current game/s im playing and Ps/Ai.
In terms of processor i have been looking at the i7 - 2700k, 3770k or the 3820. The graphics upgrade to ivy is no benefit to me and as a new overclocker i'm not sure which will be best. I've read that the new ivy chips dont really OC past 4.5ghz without serious cooling but since I wouldnt be pushing the OC that much as a first timer that doesnt seem too much of a problem for me. All the different chipset stuff doesnt really mean anything to me, leaving me in a bit over my head.
Advice would be much appreciated especially on CPU, RAM, MOBO, the suitability of my existing GFX card and PSU. Then a case and cooling that would be appropriate to such a build.
Thanks
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For memory, you're looking at the least expensive 2x4gb 1333MHz / 1600MHz kit that's 1.5v or lower.
2700k is just a 2600k that's 100MHz faster so it's pointless to consider it if it costs more than a 2600k. The 3820 is also pointless since the only value in LGA2011 is really the memory bandwidth (quad-channel) / support (64gb), PCI-E bandwidth (tri / quad SLI / CrossfireX), and hex / octo cores. So basically it comes down to whether you think the 3770k is worth the premium over the 2600k.
For motherboard, you're basically looking at Z77. Z68 and P67 might be a good option for 2nd Generation Core processors depending on the pricing of Z77 boards over there , these two won't work with 3rd Generation Core processors without a BIOS update.
The CX600 can be carried over.
GTX 460 can be carried over and replaced at a later time if you feel that it is inadequate for newer games.
Case can be whatever you want, a case will last for a very long time so you'll want something that's to your liking. Bitfenix Shinobi, Fractal Design Define R3, and Corsair 550D are a few good options.
Heatsink is the same, you can buy an inexpensive one such as a Coolermaster Hyper 212 EVO or you can invest in a Noctua NH-D14.
In the end, value is determined by the individual.
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So, what are your opinions on this laptop? http://www.xoticpc.com/msi-gt70-0nc011us-p-4328.html
I also have a few questions for those that take the time to look at the specs, what do you feel is the weakest part of the laptop? Do you think any parts of it aren't up to "date" for something that price? Do you think it is worth the price, and better compared to other laptops in a similar price range? If you could change any parts of it what would you change?
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Hey this is for skyR haha my buddies have been tracking this thread for a while and would love to hear your feedback they are looking to build before d3. What are your recommendations:
What is your budget?
$1000 - $1200
What is your resolution?
1920x1080
What are you using it for?
Mostly gaming, photoshop, maybe some video editing. Primarily gaming though.
What is your upgrade cycle?
2+ years in regards to upgrade cycle. Don’t plan on upgrading it very often.
When do you plan on building it?
Looking at completing the build within the next 2 weeks
Do you plan on overclocking?
Do not plan on overclocking
Do you need an Operating System?
Will NOT require an Operating System.
Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
Do not plan on adding a second video card to SLI or Crossfire.
Where are you buying your parts from?
Memory Express, using their price matching policy to get the best possible deals against competitors.
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Gonna be upgrading to a new computer in the next few days, I'm 90% sure of the build I've got but I thought I'd throw it out here and see what you guys think.
I already have a case, power supply, hard drive, CD tray, and operating system, so I'm only replacing Mobo, CPU, ram, and video card. My budget is $500 and I plan on buying it all at Memory Express. I'm going to be playing SC2, with maybe a bit of LoL, D3, WoW, etc. but mainly SC2. Also I'd like to be able to stream. Just did a speedtest, I get about 3 Mbps up, that should be enough right?
Anyways here's the build:
Core i5-2500k + Gigabyte GA-Z68A-D3H-B3 bundle: $300
eVGA GeForce GTX 460 1GB: $150
Kingston ValueRAM 8GB DDR3-1333MHz: $48
Just a few questions:
1) I have no idea what to look for in RAM. First, what does it mean when it says 'PC3-12800' or 'PC3-10600' in the specs? Also I assume that you want to match the voltage of the RAM with the voltage of your motherboard? Both of mine are at 1.5V, but I saw some other ram at 1.65V.
2) From my research, my Cpu, motherboard, and graphics card are overclock friendly. I'm not planning on overclocking right away, but if I decide in the future to overclock, what would I need to buy?
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3mbps is enough for even a 1080p stream or very close (e.g. 1600x900) provided you overclock the 2500K.
1) the PC3-12800 refers to the peak transfer rate (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DDR3_SDRAM#Modules). Just get 240-pin (aka Desktop RAM) 1333MHz RAM that's rated to run at 1.5V
2) For the graphics card, nothing to buy (maybe a side intake fan on your case if it has a side intake fan mount). It has its own cooling heatsink and fan. It's actually a factory overclocked 460 and it's not likely you're going to be able to increase the overclock too much higher without increasing the voltages, which increases heat output by a lot (not to mention risking burning the VRM's but a mild boost should be okay; I'd just stick to overclocking as far as it is stable on stock voltages though).
For the CPU, you'll need an aftermarket cooler for anything beyond a few hundred MHz overclock. Air cooilng is inexpensive and can be very quiet if you pick the right heatsink.
So yeah, that RAM is overpriced, just get these: http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX33238
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On May 02 2012 04:54 Kuznagi wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Hey this is for skyR haha my buddies have been tracking this thread for a while and would love to hear your feedback they are looking to build before d3. What are your recommendations:
What is your budget?
$1000 - $1200
What is your resolution?
1920x1080
What are you using it for?
Mostly gaming, photoshop, maybe some video editing. Primarily gaming though.
What is your upgrade cycle?
2+ years in regards to upgrade cycle. Don’t plan on upgrading it very often.
When do you plan on building it?
Looking at completing the build within the next 2 weeks
Do you plan on overclocking?
Do not plan on overclocking
Do you need an Operating System?
Will NOT require an Operating System.
Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
Do not plan on adding a second video card to SLI or Crossfire.
Where are you buying your parts from?
Memory Express, using their price matching policy to get the best possible deals against competitors.
What location?
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Not sure what you mean but we're in Calgary, Canada
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Calgary NE, NW, SE? The only reasons to buy from ME is because they're local to you, some bundle deal, or uber pricematching one component. Their selection of components isn't that great.
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Origional post
+ Show Spoiler +On May 02 2012 02:08 myfriendspro wrote:
I posted in here a while ago but as the suggestion and my research I waited till the new chips were out to make my decision as I wasnt desperate.
What is your budget?
No budget to speak of, i'm looking for reasonably high end but also value for money.
What is your resolution?
1680x1050 and 1280x1024 for second monitor
What are you using it for?
Gaming, Photoshop/Illustrator, video recording/editing, streaming
What is your upgrade cycle?
Normally about 3 years
When do you plan on building it?
ASAP - i waited till the ivy release to make the decisions so now i want to build it.
Do you plan on overclocking?
I have never overclocked before but I want to this time.
Do you need an Operating System?
Nope i have win 7 x64
Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
I dont really know the benefits of this rather than going single new cards.
Where are you buying your parts from?
Im in the UK i've only really used novatech before but i dont mind using any reputable site.
Right now I plan to carry over my 2x dvd/rw drives & bluetooth card reader. Also if possible re use my reasonably new PSU which is a Corsair CX600 bought about this time last year. Also i'd like to carry on using my EVGA Superclocked GTX460 if possible as I'd rather not shell out for a new card as its only a year old but if its necessary I can do, otherwise i'd be looking at doing that aprox this time next year if it is necessary then. I really want to be able to play most games ie GW2 on max or near max settings and record or stream.
I was thinking i'll probably carry over my HDD but buy an SSD for OS current game/s im playing and Ps/Ai.
In terms of processor i have been looking at the i7 - 2700k, 3770k or the 3820. The graphics upgrade to ivy is no benefit to me and as a new overclocker i'm not sure which will be best. I've read that the new ivy chips dont really OC past 4.5ghz without serious cooling but since I wouldnt be pushing the OC that much as a first timer that doesnt seem too much of a problem for me. All the different chipset stuff doesnt really mean anything to me, leaving me in a bit over my head.
Advice would be much appreciated especially on CPU, RAM, MOBO, the suitability of my existing GFX card and PSU. Then a case and cooling that would be appropriate to such a build.
Thanks
On May 02 2012 02:56 skyR wrote:
For memory, you're looking at the least expensive 2x4gb 1333MHz / 1600MHz kit that's 1.5v or lower.
2700k is just a 2600k that's 100MHz faster so it's pointless to consider it if it costs more than a 2600k. The 3820 is also pointless since the only value in LGA2011 is really the memory bandwidth (quad-channel) / support (64gb), PCI-E bandwidth (tri / quad SLI / CrossfireX), and hex / octo cores. So basically it comes down to whether you think the 3770k is worth the premium over the 2600k.
For motherboard, you're basically looking at Z77. Z68 and P67 might be a good option for 2nd Generation Core processors depending on the pricing of Z77 boards over there , these two won't work with 3rd Generation Core processors without a BIOS update.
The CX600 can be carried over.
GTX 460 can be carried over and replaced at a later time if you feel that it is inadequate for newer games.
Case can be whatever you want, a case will last for a very long time so you'll want something that's to your liking. Bitfenix Shinobi, Fractal Design Define R3, and Corsair 550D are a few good options.
Heatsink is the same, you can buy an inexpensive one such as a Coolermaster Hyper 212 EVO or you can invest in a Noctua NH-D14.
In the end, value is determined by the individual.
Looking at prices it's going to cost about another £50 to go from i7 2600k to i7 3770k which doesnt seem worth it from what i've read.
As far as mobos go i looked at a few and am thinking of going for the Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD3H. I looked at the MSI Z77A-GD65 & the ASRock Z77 Extreme6 but i couldnt really see what i was getting from them that i would need for another £20.
I'd appreciate any thoughts on this.
Also where is the best place to look for a first time overclocker when I get it all set up?
Thanks for any help.
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On May 02 2012 06:35 skyR wrote:
Calgary NE, NW, SE? The only reasons to buy from ME is because they're local to you, some bundle deal, or uber pricematching one component. Their selection of components isn't that great.
Friend is Calgary NE, I'm Calgary NW
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On May 02 2012 05:57 Wabbit wrote:3mbps is enough for even a 1080p stream or very close (e.g. 1600x900) provided you overclock the 2500K. 1) the PC3-12800 refers to the peak transfer rate (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DDR3_SDRAM#Modules). Just get 240-pin (aka Desktop RAM) 1333MHz RAM that's rated to run at 1.5V 2) For the graphics card, nothing to buy (maybe a side intake fan on your case if it has a side intake fan mount). It has its own cooling heatsink and fan. It's actually a factory overclocked 460 and it's not likely you're going to be able to increase the overclock too much higher without increasing the voltages, which increases heat output by a lot (not to mention risking burning the VRM's but a mild boost should be okay; I'd just stick to overclocking as far as it is stable on stock voltages though). For the CPU, you'll need an aftermarket cooler for anything beyond a few hundred MHz overclock. Air cooilng is inexpensive and can be very quiet if you pick the right heatsink. So yeah, that RAM is overpriced, just get these: http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX33238
What kind of quality would I be able to stream at without overclocking?
If I overclock, any recommendations for an aftermarket cooler?
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On May 02 2012 06:56 myfriendspro wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Origional post + Show Spoiler +On May 02 2012 02:08 myfriendspro wrote:
I posted in here a while ago but as the suggestion and my research I waited till the new chips were out to make my decision as I wasnt desperate.
What is your budget?
No budget to speak of, i'm looking for reasonably high end but also value for money.
What is your resolution?
1680x1050 and 1280x1024 for second monitor
What are you using it for?
Gaming, Photoshop/Illustrator, video recording/editing, streaming
What is your upgrade cycle?
Normally about 3 years
When do you plan on building it?
ASAP - i waited till the ivy release to make the decisions so now i want to build it.
Do you plan on overclocking?
I have never overclocked before but I want to this time.
Do you need an Operating System?
Nope i have win 7 x64
Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
I dont really know the benefits of this rather than going single new cards.
Where are you buying your parts from?
Im in the UK i've only really used novatech before but i dont mind using any reputable site.
Right now I plan to carry over my 2x dvd/rw drives & bluetooth card reader. Also if possible re use my reasonably new PSU which is a Corsair CX600 bought about this time last year. Also i'd like to carry on using my EVGA Superclocked GTX460 if possible as I'd rather not shell out for a new card as its only a year old but if its necessary I can do, otherwise i'd be looking at doing that aprox this time next year if it is necessary then. I really want to be able to play most games ie GW2 on max or near max settings and record or stream.
I was thinking i'll probably carry over my HDD but buy an SSD for OS current game/s im playing and Ps/Ai.
In terms of processor i have been looking at the i7 - 2700k, 3770k or the 3820. The graphics upgrade to ivy is no benefit to me and as a new overclocker i'm not sure which will be best. I've read that the new ivy chips dont really OC past 4.5ghz without serious cooling but since I wouldnt be pushing the OC that much as a first timer that doesnt seem too much of a problem for me. All the different chipset stuff doesnt really mean anything to me, leaving me in a bit over my head.
Advice would be much appreciated especially on CPU, RAM, MOBO, the suitability of my existing GFX card and PSU. Then a case and cooling that would be appropriate to such a build.
Thanks On May 02 2012 02:56 skyR wrote:
For memory, you're looking at the least expensive 2x4gb 1333MHz / 1600MHz kit that's 1.5v or lower.
2700k is just a 2600k that's 100MHz faster so it's pointless to consider it if it costs more than a 2600k. The 3820 is also pointless since the only value in LGA2011 is really the memory bandwidth (quad-channel) / support (64gb), PCI-E bandwidth (tri / quad SLI / CrossfireX), and hex / octo cores. So basically it comes down to whether you think the 3770k is worth the premium over the 2600k.
For motherboard, you're basically looking at Z77. Z68 and P67 might be a good option for 2nd Generation Core processors depending on the pricing of Z77 boards over there , these two won't work with 3rd Generation Core processors without a BIOS update.
The CX600 can be carried over.
GTX 460 can be carried over and replaced at a later time if you feel that it is inadequate for newer games.
Case can be whatever you want, a case will last for a very long time so you'll want something that's to your liking. Bitfenix Shinobi, Fractal Design Define R3, and Corsair 550D are a few good options.
Heatsink is the same, you can buy an inexpensive one such as a Coolermaster Hyper 212 EVO or you can invest in a Noctua NH-D14.
In the end, value is determined by the individual. Looking at prices it's going to cost about another £50 to go from i7 2600k to i7 3770k which doesnt seem worth it from what i've read. As far as mobos go i looked at a few and am thinking of going for the Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD3H. I looked at the MSI Z77A-GD65 & the ASRock Z77 Extreme6 but i couldnt really see what i was getting from them that i would need for another £20. I'd appreciate any thoughts on this. Also where is the best place to look for a first time overclocker when I get it all set up? Thanks for any help.
Is the GD55 not available to you? Because that should be similar to the pricing of the UD3H and overall a better board than the UD3H.
The GD55 uses an Intel NIC which is superior to that of the Atheros NIC used by Gigabyte, uses Realtek audio which is superior to that of the VIA used by Gigabyte, and all the USB is provided natively by Intel while the UD3H has all USB3 ports - two of which is provided by Intel / the rest by VIA - all of which requires drivers installed to be usable and VIA sucks (so good luck if you don't have a ps/2 mouse).
Basically, I think all the high-end 7 series boards from Gigabyte sucks. The only advantage to them is the dual BIOS.
hardforum and overclock.net
On May 02 2012 06:58 Kuznagi wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On May 02 2012 06:35 skyR wrote:
Calgary NE, NW, SE? The only reasons to buy from ME is because they're local to you, some bundle deal, or uber pricematching one component. Their selection of components isn't that great. Friend is Calgary NE, I'm Calgary NW
See post a few posts back for build: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=137554¤tpage=1068#21350
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Upgrade for BF3, D3, SC2, DOTA 2
i5 3570k (250$) + Asus Z77 Sabertooth ($230) + 4GBx2 Corsair 1600mhz C9 (50$)
what you guys think?
UPGRADE TOTAL = $430
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You're getting a $230 motherboard. The fact that you have to ask makes me strongly suspect that you don't know why you're getting a $230 motherboard (those who do don't ask). If you have lots of money and want the 5yr warranty and possibly some ridiculous overclocking then sure go ahead. But for most non-enthusiasts (and even many somewhat-enthusiasts), your money will be better spent on some ~$100-150 Z77 board, and the ~$100 savings toward something else that you'll actually put to use.
You should also be able to find 1600 RAM for ~$40-45.
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6770 is fine, it can handle high and even ultra at 1080p.
You need to replace power supply... this build will never exceed 200w so you don't need a garbage fake 650w unit. Get an Antec Earthwatts 380D or Corsair CX430v2 instead.
You're not overclocking either so some H77s will be less and H67s will be significantly less. H67 will still allow you to upgrade to Ivybridge with a BIOS update.
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Yes. 6670 consumes like nothing.
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